WoD weekly needs to be brought in line with other weeklies.

lewstelamon01 · July 2016

The WoD weekly quest should be adjusted to be brought in line with the other weeklies in terms of time require to complete such quest.

I know, it's a weekly quest. But let's look at the others.

Sharandar...laughable to complete at 70, even with the level 64 cap. Ten minutes of work at most...and that's if you stop for skill nodes.

Dread Ring: Kill three Thayan Wizards, thank you, come again, I'm here all week. Takes...a couple minutes, tops.

Biggrin's Rest: Kill a zombie frost giant. IWD is murder central, but....still, doesn't take an inordinate amount of time.

Ballad of Baphomet: Kill a demon lord while you silently wish you could string up the bard. Five or ten minutes.

Now, we come to the WoD weekly.

Kill 25 Thayans. Not long.

Then, kill 25 cultists. If you're lucky, you can punch their tickets along with the Thayans.

However, there's the Great Wall of Time. Collect 15 coffers.

THIS is why I make the request I do. As we all know (or may not know), Dragon Hoard Coffers are timed drops--as in you cannot obtain more than one over a set period of time. If I recall correctly, this limit is upwards of a minute. Now, sure, you can buy the coffers off the AH, but that kind of defeats the purpose of the quest offering rAD for completion, no? At going prices you'll spend more than you make.

Thoughts?

scathias · July 2016

well, if you do a round of heralds you generally end up with enough coffers to donate for the weekly. Remember that those coffers are a pretty significant portion of getting tiamat to T4 for the weekend, if you took them out people would only be donating to get linu favors and i don't know how many people still do that.

The WoD weekly is very time intensive, but perhaps the rewards could be boosted instead

two30 · July 2016

Questing in the Well of Dragons needs a general overhaul. Dailies and weeklies in Sharandar, Dread Ring, Icewind Dale and Mantol Derith give Refinement Points or Black Ice in addition to campaign tokens. Quests in the Well of Dragons only give campaign tokens, and those tokens aren't even useful for unlocking the 6th and 7th boons.

plasticbat · July 2016

scathias said:
well, if you do a round of heralds you generally end up with enough coffers to donate for the weekly. Remember that those coffers are a pretty significant portion of getting tiamat to T4 for the weekend, if you took them out people would only be donating to get linu favors and i don't know how many people still do that.

The WoD weekly is very time intensive, but perhaps the rewards could be boosted instead

I donate for linu favors only. I don't care about Tiamat. WoD weekly is not time intensive if one also does daily. Basically, for me, if I do daily, I have weekly done. I have no problem to do WoD weekly for 3 toons.

I guess the question goes back to why I do WoD daily. The answer is linu favors and SH donation.

loboguild · July 2016

The weekly in ToD is indeed an auto-completion if you're doing the dailies regularly for whatever reason. But it's also true that the weekly itself is harder to complete than others.

Also agree with @two30 here about general imbalances. WoD needs another incentive to be run. I'd like to add IWD to the list, which offer by far the most annoying quests because of the size of the maps and the strength of the mobs. This makes Kessell keys and IWD vouchers substantially harder to acquire than their counterparts in other campaigns.

kangkeok · July 2016

its better than elemental campagin...there is no weekly RAD lol

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silverkelt · July 2016

I simply skip this one, its too time consuming. You can do almost all the rest in the same time frame as to do this one.

deathbeez · July 2016

I skip it on my lower alts and just sell the coffers.

lewstelamon01 · July 2016

silverkelt said:
I simply skip this one, its too time consuming. You can do almost all the rest in the same time frame as to do this one.

But this is precisely what I'm trying to say. What's the deal with one weekly taking as long to complete as the rest combined? If you're simply wanting to get the weeklies done in a tidy manner (and/or over several alts) then this one presents quite the speed bump.

tranan25 · July 2016

Do the PC community get it to T4? On Xbone we have yet to se it at T1-T2 since mod 6? Atleast I dont think we have but I might be wrong.

lewstelamon01 · July 2016

tranan25 said:
Do the PC community get it to T4? On Xbone we have yet to se it at T1-T2 since mod 6? Atleast I dont think we have but I might be wrong.

Usually the PC hoard is t4 by sometime early in the week. Wednesday at the latest.

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greywynd · July 2016

None of the weekly tasks bother me much except Biggrin. That I can't solo.

kemnimtarkas · July 2016

Ever since I discovered the coffers for sale (relatively cheap) on the AH - I never worry about it. Buy what you need to score the boons you want.

greywynd · July 2016

lewstelamon01 said:

But this is precisely what I'm trying to say. What's the deal with one weekly taking as long to complete as the rest combined? If you're simply wanting to get the weeklies done in a tidy manner (and/or over several alts) then this one presents quite the speed bump.

You've got a whole week to do it. It doesn't have to be done in 5 minutes.

jugger71 · July 2016

I agree completely. Ive done that weekly exactly twice. First time my fault, second time my fault...

silverkelt · July 2016

Its a complete waste of time, even if you had a whole week.

Time is too valuable to be bottlenecked in that matter, you could make thousands of AD or contribute actual needed resources to further guild boons. you dont really need to do this to help out with the tod coffer portion. I simply do portal with 5 toons a week and donate those assets to the coffer.

By doing this quest and not just bringing another alt through something else, you could lose up to 20-30k AD or more.

Its called time management.

jumpingmorks · July 2016

I tend to do it on my main, aside from the 4.5k ad it gives it also gives a nice chunk of campaign currency and when you are still grinding the 100 Arcane Lore for your last 2 Tiamat boons, it helps, the only other one I can think of that gives a good chunk of Arcane Lore is Defeat a Cult Dragon which is another weekly quest that gives 10 Arcane Lore. Once you have your 7 boons, you'll still need campaign currency for LoL and SoT keys and maybe the Dragon Queen Key for Tiamat, which the weekly is great for as it gives 9 fangs.

therealprotex · July 2016

silverkelt said:
Its a complete waste of time, even if you had a whole week.

Time is too valuable to be bottlenecked in that matter, you could make thousands of AD or contribute actual needed resources to further guild boons. you dont really need to do this to help out with the tod coffer portion. I simply do portal with 5 toons a week and donate those assets to the coffer.

By doing this quest and not just bringing another alt through something else, you could lose up to 20-30k AD or more.

Its called time management.

Puh, I'm glad that I still play a game and do not regard this as a job...

jumpingmorks · July 2016

therealprotex said:

silverkelt said:
Its a complete waste of time, even if you had a whole week.

Time is too valuable to be bottlenecked in that matter, you could make thousands of AD or contribute actual needed resources to further guild boons. you dont really need to do this to help out with the tod coffer portion. I simply do portal with 5 toons a week and donate those assets to the coffer.

By doing this quest and not just bringing another alt through something else, you could lose up to 20-30k AD or more.

Its called time management.
Puh, I'm glad that I still play a game and do not regard this as a job...

Silver is giving his view on the basis of how little time he has, which is understandable.

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lewstelamon01 · July 2016

magenubbie said:
Truth be told, I always wondered why WoD weekly forced you to play more than any of the other campaigns. I mean, the campaign has the most difficult lair in this game. Cult Prison. Perhaps the Alchemist for some classes. It should have either been one of those 2 lairs or kill 4 heralds. And I agree with @two30 saying the rewards should be brought back in line as well. A Favor or 2 would be nice. I don't think that's too much to ask considering how many of the blasted things we need for the boons.
Of course I wouldn't object to lowering the boon cost either.

Not that it's extremely difficult. The daily demon HE quest alone gives you 4-6 coffers and I can do the trash killing part in the instances. It's just not conform standard.

Bah, I remember making a thread saying that the prison was a bit too hard and basically got told to L2P. Can't say I was wrong, though.

And yeah, either scale back the requirements or make the rewards worth the extra effort required. You get better rewards for finishing the DR weekly (which takes all of three to five minutes, depending on how fast you can kill Thayan Wizards) than you do for the WoD weekly.

And while we're at this...would it be too much to have the WoD dailies grant resonance stones the same way that Sharandar dailies give thaumaturgic stones and DR dailies give artifact stones?

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mightyeriksson · July 2016

defiantone99 said:
Yes, the weekly is what gives us T4 Tiamat hoards. Mess with that and we will not even get 100 percent anymore. A dragon circuit or 2 give enough coffers for the weekly.

That is hilarious, right now the hoard is the highest I've seen on Xbox since EE update, and that's 9% of Tier 1, which will reset in a few hours...

I seem to have read somewhere that on PC it adjusts the hoard investment after actual server-population?

If so, someone needs to let Cryptic know that the actual amount of players on Xbox is probably a lot less than 20% of what it was at a year ago...

wildfirede · July 2016

My suggestions:

Resonance stones from dailies
Remove coffers as weekly requirement
Make coffers a linu favor curency
Make Tiamat tiers day based e.g. tier 1 on Mondays/Tuesdays tier 2 on Wednesday tier 3 .... max tier at weekends.

I am not happy with do not edit cause ppl will stop donating - as those people feel forved to.

iandarksword · July 2016

I do think that Linu's Favor need to be made more accessible, especially if they plan to retain the current boon requirements. It does make me wonder how dependant the raid bonuses are on donations from the weekly, or if there are more via the Rewards for the Hoard quest.

lirithiel · July 2016

magenubbie said:
Not that it's extremely difficult. The daily demon HE quest alone gives you 4-6 coffers per day.

Not sure how you manage such high coffer drop rates. I get 1 in 3 Demonic HEs...

I agree that the WoD weekly is ridiculous compared with the others available. I generally only do it on 1 toon - it's far too time consuming otherwise. What about changing the weekly to complete 1 of the lairs? Otherwise give us a guaranteed Linu's Favor for completing the weekly. It's already the hardest zone in the game, along with Icewind Dale. Why make us spend more time there than is necessary?

lirithiel · July 2016

lewstelamon01 said:
Bah, I remember making a thread saying that the prison was a bit too hard and basically got told to L2P. Can't say I was wrong, though.

I actually like the fact that some of the WoD lairs are more challenging. A lot more than they were on release at least. I wish more of the lairs were of similar difficulty.

greywynd · July 2016

I don't understand the "have to do it NOW". You have a week. Dragon runs are good for coffers and there is usually one every hour. Killing the Cultists/Thayans can be done while doing other quests in the zone. TMS has a nice collection of captive Thayans to kill.

mullymoomoo · July 2016

Why does WOD have be aligned with the other weeklies? Shouldn't the other weeklies be made to be longer tasks? After all they are weeklies, they are something to work on through the week. Dailies are for doing within a 24 period. Weeklies should take longer. Though the rewards should be boosted if they change the requirements to compkete them.

WoD weekly needs to be brought in line with other weeklies.

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