The people who are accepting this are the free to play players who dont help pay the bills or pro on the payroll posters. We all know everyone was saving bars for upgrading the enchants. Why not the tramalune bar purchased wards bound to account and any enchant that uses these wards bound to account at least the majority of people could upgrade their desired enchants and the developers market would be save from their stated flooded market of enchants and wards.
I am still extremely mad and frustrated with the whole situation. More so the removal of double enchants and runestones with double exp and astrial diamonds. I have saved up couple hundred kits and lockboxes to refine up my 2 mains, now useless. Also how can anyone not be mad about the months of buildup communication, the shaddy edits and the slow and inadequate post communication.
you are not alone bro in fact lots of ppl sold all their enchantments off and have been buying zen for the lockbox keys and open upthousands of locboxes to get the trade bars, i myself have open 600++ lockboxes and some of the guildies in my guild have opned literally 2500 lockboxes and max out their trade bars and now because of the so called glitch, all the tradebars they have is useless.
To the Management at Cryptic, I have not logged in since shortly after underdark came on line and I found the wards missing. Your attempt to buy me off is not accepted. I will not be bought and bargained with like some desperate crack HAMSTER. I am still deciding what my next course of action will be, but accepting your email wont be it.
By my estimate to fully level my main characters items to mythic (now mind you my items score is already around 2930) and all the stones mounted in them will take at least 13 wards to advance my items to mythic and 17*3 for the enchantment stones. This is not counting the stones on my companion which is another 9 + 18 so all said 91 wards. Do you think I am that eager to give you another $910? If you do its obvious you need to get some fresh air because obviously your judgement is impaired.
I can imagine what you must be dreaming about when you think of someone buying blood rubies to upgrade a level 46 weapon to 60. Over $400 in just blood rubies, not to mention the marks. Is that maybe how you folks think about it? "Oh hell they just spend over $400 for the rubies they wont miss another $10 for a Coalescent ward!" Oh, they cant afford cash, fine let them earn AD and buy it in the auction house, that will only take abut 4,972,800 AD just for the rubies. Assuming you guys don't make all rubies bind to character one day. Don't bother to tell us you wont, why would we believe anything you say? Back to our math. On a good day I can pull about 60k AD so at that rate it will only take me 82 DAYS grinding to afford enough rubies to level that ONE weapon.
You want to talk to us about an economy. Yeah like you give a flip.
Pastor Martin Niemöller had it right, but remember, before they come for anyone, they silence all, because to have discourse, is to breed discontent.
Still think its funny the tramalune bar vendor still has tab that states wards and gems with no wards. You think the developers would get that right by now but with HURRRICANE KATRINA style of management thats been going on what should we aspect. There better be more information and resolution coming down the pipeline. I have not posted and have tried to reserve judgement. Of course post hurricane katrina is one of the largest population movements in US history where most didnt go back, dont make the same mistakes arc, pwa.
I still feel scammed. I have never bought 3rd party AD, put real money into the game, and saved over 7k trade bars to be able to purchase enough coal-wards to reasonably equip my 8 (one of each class) characters to be really useful to my strongholds guild.
You can imagine how many lock box keys I have purchased to accumulate 7k trade bars and have used at least 5k before the announcement for wards and an ion stone that I do not even used any more.
Bottom line, what you offer as a "gift" is really just a consolation prize... 'thanks for playing a couple thousand hours, but we don't care what we promised...'
Sorry, not enough. At the very least I those of us should be able to use our trade bars at time of release the way we planned to and then after those trade bars are gone, I wouldn't mind you shutting down the promised trade bar store.
I will probably play with my guild mates regardless what you do because of the time and money invested, but it will be so h a heavy heart and a bitter feeling.
if the wards and rubies can b bought from the trade bar store, you got to have 35K of trade bars per every toon to max out ur gear and weapon to rank 60.
if the wards and rubies can b bought from the trade bar store, you got to have 35K of trade bars per every toon to max out ur gear and weapon to rank 60.
Considering that, you know what would have been smarter than them ripping the wards out of the Trade Bar market instead of lowering the price of them?
Sell Trade Bars for zen. Then those who busted their a## to stockpile trade bars would have gotten what the deserved, and then they could have Sunset all the old lock box designs and the next round cut the tradebar payouts by 70% and still make a profit.
It would have been a bit devious overall but would have been better than pi##ing everyone off.
Pastor Martin Niemöller had it right, but remember, before they come for anyone, they silence all, because to have discourse, is to breed discontent.
When unbound coals came to the TB store on PC, enchantment prices did not drop. The whales just raised the prices of the Marks and Shards to make up for the loss.
Lesser enchants used to be 400k+ and trans enchants were 9+ million. Now they're ~140k and 3.5million.
A lot the drop in price happened prior to the change when the tradebar store changes were announced.
I am pretty sure any price drop was due to the AD removal, not coals.
That's why trams enchants dropped from 17 million to 9 million : |
Lessers didn't drop until the coals were announced in the tradebar store because their value is linked directly to coal wards.
null Stop making excuses for them They screwed up the nonsense about difference in coals in the bar Stire is a classic example They were BOA in there and they weren't on PC there is your difference right there They only had to leave it as was and none of this would have occurred Like it or not the vast majority of those who fund the game every day are incensed by this shabby action and a few wards just won't cut it in their case This happened because yet again they cut and paste the PC code into this update and didn't pick it up till the eleventh hour Instead of fronting that they allowed this to evolve into a crisis Make a statement exactly when the patch will be sent to MS and when they will return and we can all get on with our lives or state clearly they are not coming back and we can make alternative arrangements It has to be better than this
if the wards and rubies can b bought from the trade bar store, you got to have 35K of trade bars per every toon to max out ur gear and weapon to rank 60.
Considering that, you know what would have been smarter than them ripping the wards out of the Trade Bar market instead of lowering the price of them?
Sell Trade Bars for zen. Then those who busted their a## to stockpile trade bars would have gotten what the deserved, and then they could have Sunset all the old lock box designs and the next round cut the tradebar payouts by 70% and still make a profit.
It would have been a bit devious overall but would have been better than pi##ing everyone off.
yeh..wish cryptic have the gamers that play this game in mind as because of their incompetence in their coding, the gamers need to suffer for their error and mistake, we as gamers should not be suffering for their error as we are the customer and we pay a lot of real $$ to support this game and we paid the programmers of this game to make and improve our gaming experience, is just sad to see those programmers makes $150 to $200K a year salary from us and yet they just sit on their lazy a$$ and collecting their paycheck instead of doing real work and find a solution to the issues when cryptic promise us that the wards and rubies will b at the trade bars stores for this mod and they can't even keep their promise. even a 5 year old kids is better than them when it comes to keeping promises
Sure it sucks for those of use that wanted to buy the wards for ourselves but, I do see they have to be careful with the xbox version as some of those who are mad is more because hey thought they had future insight (from the pc notes) thinking they had a sure thing to make cash off a sure thing and easily get there item back.
lets be honest between ourselves because cryptic won't be. this isn't about who stocked up on what or who sold what because they could remake it or buy it back cheaper. this is 100% about gating progression behind a zen paywall. they've conceded that war on PC. sure, they're still trying to fight bots but the bots have won. unambiguously. last week on pc accounts selling bottable items made 813M ad. that's 813,000,000. that's 3.4 BILLION ad in a month. i can't link you to where i got that information from because the site is blocked here for other reasons, but the information is out there.
how does that play out for the economies? lets say you wanted to be a big spender and buy your way to legendary artifact equipment. on pc the most cost effective way of doing that would be to buy ~9 stacks of lesser resonance stones. that would cost you ~1.8M ad so 5200zen so $52. that's actually not that bad if you grind out ad for it but marginally less so if you spend real money.
on xbox? those stacks (if you can find them because no bots) would cost you 4.5M ad. (looking less realistic to grind out BiS isn't it?) which if you want to buy that with zen (no cheating with gold sellers) would cost you 26,500 zen. this is taking into account new mod inflation. last week that amount of ad would have cost you 34,600 zen. and there might be 10 people willing to pay $346 for ONE piece of legendary artifact but i wouldn't bet on finding 100.
this right here is the parity that @strumslinger and @yetweallfalldown talk about. it's a double-edged sword. right now, our ad has more buying power in the zen shop and that's good for us but not for cryptic. it's good for people that have more time than money. what they want to get the adx up to pc levels which will be good for people that have more money than time (their target demographic) and also because it will encourage people to buy more zen with real money and turn it into ad which is good for their bottom line.
their problem is that aside from coal wards, pres wards, blood rubies, and keys... they don't have anything in the zen shop that would compel repeat purchases. you start out playing the game and you make a few *ONE TIME* initial purchases. you might buy the dragonborn pack, or the drow pack. maybe some inscribed garments and probably an epic mount (we see what you're doing with mod 9 btw). it's not difficult to save up the ad to buy these things with adx zen. not all at once, but over time? anyone can do it. this is bad for cryptic because they want you to buy these things with real money. or at the very least a mixture of adx zen and real money zen. (fwiw this is how i financed all of my larger zen store purchases. a little adx zen, a little real money zen)
TL;DR: and that brings us to "Coalgate". in one move they've made it so that you HAVE to go through them to reach the higher levels of progression. we can't double dip for lockbox rewards AND progression. want that legendary mainhand? you either grind out 5.4M ad and buy zen in the adx or open your wallet and pay $310 for zen store blood rubies. this is why they removed them altogether instead of making them BTA and THAT is the worst part about this change. they've effectively told us buy more zen, get the adx up and THEN you can have your tradebar wards and rubies. everything else they said about the reasons for the removal is just a smokescreen. THIS is why PC still has their tradebar wards and rubies, because it honestly doesn't affect their bottom line.
Following our statement about the Trade Bar Store update, we have distributed the promised coalescent wards and wards/ruby pack to players. To redeem these, players will have to log out and back in. The items are redeemable via an in-game mail, so please check your mailboxes. All items distributed as gifts will be bound to account. Please note, we are still in the process of distributing the community goal items and will do that at a later date.
That is great to have a speedy result on this but,
"one of our guidelines for putting items into in-game stores is to never allow that exact item to also exist in the Zen Market"
The fashion and dyes exist in both the trade bar store and the Zen market............
They are different fashion items and different dyes in both stores. Simply put they don't want directly comparable items in each store. This means that they don't want Coal Wards in both places or items which act directly the same as Coal Wards in the opposite store. The point is to keep the stores from being comparable.
"Why would I buy a coal ward for this much when I can buy it from the in game store for this much." Etc.
Just to be clear I am in no way trying to get involved in the debate of whether Coal Wards should be in the Zen Store or the Trade Bar store but simply explaining that there is a difference between having directly comparable items in each store and saying there are similar items in each store.
Certainly dyes are in both stores but you can not get the exact same dyes from either store. If you like a specific color scheme you will have to buy it from whichever store has that color scheme. Just because they both change the color of your items does not mean it is directly comparable.
You get the same courtesan gear from the zen market as you do from the trade bar store. same for the wedding attire.
Listen people. All togehter. If.you dont leave the game because yi fell scamered by this fraudulent company, let do the following;
Dont buy any zen with real.money the next 2 weeks.
They did all this HAMSTER to make you buy zen quickly to upgrade your toon. They havent had you any other choice with this coalgate. They made you sold your enchantments, they made you spend all you ad to buy zen to open lockbox to save tradebars. They made you get vip 12 for nothing in this mod 9. They made all this...they quit double ad.
They made all this with a simple target. Now you only way to upgrading is buying their coal and rubies with real money because you are in a hurry......
DONT DO THAT. DONT BUY ANY ZEN IN 2 WEEKS!!! BE STRONG ALL TOGETHER
They keep bandying on about the economy and such forth, but all it means is they want more people to buy Zen. However I think they missed a massive point - People are less likely to spend money on items if they feel coerced into it. To put a vital component into the Zen market, and then removing any other realistic means of gaining that item by play will force players into a corner. They either HAVE to purchase Zen (If the Zax increases as Cryptic wants it to, converting AD to enough Zen will be impossible) to progress in the game, or stay as they are and accept that they aren't getting BiS - Or quit, which is the option my money is on for the majority of players. I don't understand why they don't add more cosmetic items into the Zen store - Items players will want but not need. The amount of people I see on Zen store mounts tells me that people will happily pay for pretty.
The thing that bugs me the most is that the devs keep posting about wanting parity between PC and Xbox (Yes I know they did an about turn on that TB post recently, but they've been on about parity for months before that) - This parity they want to achieve is all to do with the Xbox economy - They want to raise the cost of Zen on the exchange. To do this I would imagine they would need to increase the amount of diamonds per player to decrease their value. Which begs the question of WHY they removed skirmish/dungeon events which was the only way to put diamonds in the hands of new players, why remove diamonds from Leadership, and WHY REMOVE OUR DOUBLE AD EVENT THIS WEEKEND?
Listen people. All togehter. If.you dont leave the game because yi fell scamered by this fraudulent company, let do the following;
Dont buy any zen with real.money the next 2 weeks.
They did all this HAMSTER to make you buy zen quickly to upgrade your toon. They havent had you any other choice with this coalgate.
They made you sold your enchantments, they made you spend all you ad to buy zen to open lockbox to save tradebars. They made you get vip 12 for nothing in this mod 9. They made all this...they quit double ad.
They made all this with a simple target. Now you only way to upgrading is buying their coal and rubies with real money because you are in a hurry......
DONT DO THAT. DONT BUY ANY ZEN IN 2 WEEKS!!! BE STRONG ALL TOGETHER
I have already decided not to put anymore real money into this game, I will make AD and turn into Zen. the exchange rate is already dropping again, happy days.
Im just glad they did this before the majority of Americans received their income tax refunds. It's scary to think of the money that would have been spent.
These shady business dealing are nothing short of smashing your forehead into a 16 gauge framing nail TiL you either achieve satisfaction or pass out from the endless effort
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LOL? You assume I'm rich and don't work @destrowod 100$ here n there adds up.
Yeah 100$ can add up, but even 100$ a month since release wouldn't even get to half the price of your 3000$. No actually i think you work, you have a very good job and 3000$ is probably like 300$ for me. Or even less. I promised myself i would never go over 100$ on NW, the price of a game + DLC, and yes that old format where DLC was 30$, not 50 or 60 like these days wich is DLC i don't buy ! lol. Why? Because its still just a game in the end. Its not worth more than 100$, either in a month or a year of play. But thats me... In any case when you dropped that money you knew what to expect and the model those games are made after. No refund possible, i am sure Xbox Customer Support will say the same.
In any case, personally ill continue playing, but i won't put any more money at all. I only dropped 20$ on the game, and like i said was planning to drop a 10 here and there to max it at 100$. But not unless they get back on there decision and allow something as fundamental as an upgrade tool to be bough with in-game currency, and at a reasonable price.
I'm unemployed atm and even I can easily afford $3k. Don't judge people by your perceived standards.
Dunno about you but unemployed you don't make this in a month, unles your on some insurance or whatever. And 3K for one video game is just simply too much, no matter if you are the PDG of a big enterprise, no game deserve you pay 3K for it... Even if the game was the best of all time.
lets be honest between ourselves because cryptic won't be. this isn't about who stocked up on what or who sold what because they could remake it or buy it back cheaper. this is 100% about gating progression behind a zen paywall. they've conceded that war on PC. sure, they're still trying to fight bots but the bots have won. unambiguously. last week on pc accounts selling bottable items made 813M ad. that's 813,000,000. that's 3.4 BILLION ad in a month. i can't link you to where i got that information from because the site is blocked here for other reasons, but the information is out there.
And that is one of the reasons we Xbox players are being punished. They can control the AD market much better on Xbox so they are ruling our economy with an iron fist. If they cant profit off the PC side they will tear it from our wallets.
Pastor Martin Niemöller had it right, but remember, before they come for anyone, they silence all, because to have discourse, is to breed discontent.
If it were all about dollars though I'm not sure why they'd have just kept thecoal wards in and limited the new mounts to some of the more unpopular ones, not drop the glorious resurgence and instead cycle quickly thru the lockboxes we never got. People would be buying that up to get the mounts they wanted. I'd think they'd have got a lot more money that way and pissed people off less. (Especially if it had been communicated properly)
I was pissed because it seemed very orchestrated. They put that the c wards will be going down to 75 thus no one buys c wards because they are waiting for them to go down in price. This way when they take them completely out of the tradebar store no one will have stocked up on them because they were waiting for their price to go down to 75. Thus everyone now is stuck having to buy them for 1000 zen. Seems like a very well thoughout plan. Is this the truth was the intention to do this there from the start? Maybe. I honestly dont know what to think. My personal experiences with thier customer service has been very poor. However giving cward out was very generous. It was something they really didnt have to do. Was ot just damage control? Is it going to hurt the game in the ling ryn? Who knows. I got 11 C wards, and 5 p wards and a blood ruby for free so technically they just gave me over 100 dollars in game content. To me that speaks alot. A lot of other game devs dont give a HAMSTER ie bungie. It doesnt seem the case here . I will stay to see how it unfolds, but as of now they have my trust until further notice. Thanks for the wards!
I have supported this game through purchases with ACTUAL money to keep this Free-to-play game going on Xbox. Your "sudden" decision to change the game against your own advertising on the pre release of the latest mod has ENSURED you will NEVER get another cent out of me!!! I hope that many more follow the same procedure and your money grab turns on you in the most negative way!!!
7k trade bars / 75 per coal-ward would be 93 coal-wards... A nice start!
it is, but i don't really bother to do the math as some1 in my guild is a math fanatic and i just follow his advise and stock up 38K tradebars to maximize my weapon n gear to lv 60 on my alt char which is pally and gf
even a 5 year old kids is better than them when it comes to keeping promises
Yeah irony is my 13yr old daughter who has recently found an interest in NW after she heard tuesday night why I am not playing, she has refused to get on as well. Even though I have told her she can, and that its not her fight. Sad to see her give up her level 50 char, but I am proud of her.
Pastor Martin Niemöller had it right, but remember, before they come for anyone, they silence all, because to have discourse, is to breed discontent.
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Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter
By my estimate to fully level my main characters items to mythic (now mind you my items score is already around 2930) and all the stones mounted in them will take at least 13 wards to advance my items to mythic and 17*3 for the enchantment stones. This is not counting the stones on my companion which is another 9 + 18 so all said 91 wards. Do you think I am that eager to give you another $910? If you do its obvious you need to get some fresh air because obviously your judgement is impaired.
I can imagine what you must be dreaming about when you think of someone buying blood rubies to upgrade a level 46 weapon to 60. Over $400 in just blood rubies, not to mention the marks. Is that maybe how you folks think about it? "Oh hell they just spend over $400 for the rubies they wont miss another $10 for a Coalescent ward!" Oh, they cant afford cash, fine let them earn AD and buy it in the auction house, that will only take abut 4,972,800 AD just for the rubies. Assuming you guys don't make all rubies bind to character one day. Don't bother to tell us you wont, why would we believe anything you say? Back to our math. On a good day I can pull about 60k AD so at that rate it will only take me 82 DAYS grinding to afford enough rubies to level that ONE weapon.
You want to talk to us about an economy. Yeah like you give a flip.
Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter
Sell Trade Bars for zen. Then those who busted their a## to stockpile trade bars would have gotten what the deserved, and then they could have Sunset all the old lock box designs and the next round cut the tradebar payouts by 70% and still make a profit.
It would have been a bit devious overall but would have been better than pi##ing everyone off.
Lessers didn't drop until the coals were announced in the tradebar store because their value is linked directly to coal wards.
Stop making excuses for them
They screwed up the nonsense about difference in coals in the bar Stire is a classic example
They were BOA in there and they weren't on PC there is your difference right there
They only had to leave it as was and none of this would have occurred
Like it or not the vast majority of those who fund the game every day are incensed by this shabby action and a few wards just won't cut it in their case
This happened because yet again they cut and paste the PC code into this update and didn't pick it up till the eleventh hour
Instead of fronting that they allowed this to evolve into a crisis
Make a statement exactly when the patch will be sent to MS and when they will return and we can all get on with our lives or state clearly they are not coming back and we can make alternative arrangements
It has to be better than this
Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter
how does that play out for the economies? lets say you wanted to be a big spender and buy your way to legendary artifact equipment. on pc the most cost effective way of doing that would be to buy ~9 stacks of lesser resonance stones. that would cost you ~1.8M ad so 5200zen so $52. that's actually not that bad if you grind out ad for it but marginally less so if you spend real money.
on xbox? those stacks (if you can find them because no bots) would cost you 4.5M ad. (looking less realistic to grind out BiS isn't it?) which if you want to buy that with zen (no cheating with gold sellers) would cost you 26,500 zen. this is taking into account new mod inflation. last week that amount of ad would have cost you 34,600 zen. and there might be 10 people willing to pay $346 for ONE piece of legendary artifact but i wouldn't bet on finding 100.
this right here is the parity that @strumslinger and @yetweallfalldown talk about. it's a double-edged sword. right now, our ad has more buying power in the zen shop and that's good for us but not for cryptic. it's good for people that have more time than money. what they want to get the adx up to pc levels which will be good for people that have more money than time (their target demographic) and also because it will encourage people to buy more zen with real money and turn it into ad which is good for their bottom line.
their problem is that aside from coal wards, pres wards, blood rubies, and keys... they don't have anything in the zen shop that would compel repeat purchases. you start out playing the game and you make a few *ONE TIME* initial purchases. you might buy the dragonborn pack, or the drow pack. maybe some inscribed garments and probably an epic mount (we see what you're doing with mod 9 btw). it's not difficult to save up the ad to buy these things with adx zen. not all at once, but over time? anyone can do it. this is bad for cryptic because they want you to buy these things with real money. or at the very least a mixture of adx zen and real money zen. (fwiw this is how i financed all of my larger zen store purchases. a little adx zen, a little real money zen)
TL;DR: and that brings us to "Coalgate". in one move they've made it so that you HAVE to go through them to reach the higher levels of progression. we can't double dip for lockbox rewards AND progression. want that legendary mainhand? you either grind out 5.4M ad and buy zen in the adx or open your wallet and pay $310 for zen store blood rubies. this is why they removed them altogether instead of making them BTA and THAT is the worst part about this change. they've effectively told us buy more zen, get the adx up and THEN you can have your tradebar wards and rubies. everything else they said about the reasons for the removal is just a smokescreen. THIS is why PC still has their tradebar wards and rubies, because it honestly doesn't affect their bottom line.
7k trade bars / 75 per coal-ward would be 93 coal-wards... A nice start!
Right on the money.
I am neither here nor there, for I am NevrCene
NevrCene: TRMelisandre: SW
Brienne: GWF
Guild : Mystic Dawn (GH20)
Dont buy any zen with real.money the next 2 weeks.
They did all this HAMSTER to make you buy zen quickly to upgrade your toon. They havent had you any other choice with this coalgate.
They made you sold your enchantments, they made you spend all you ad to buy zen to open lockbox to save tradebars. They made you get vip 12 for nothing in this mod 9. They made all this...they quit double ad.
They made all this with a simple target. Now you only way to upgrading is buying their coal and rubies with real money because you are in a hurry......
DONT DO THAT. DONT BUY ANY ZEN IN 2 WEEKS!!! BE STRONG ALL TOGETHER
The thing that bugs me the most is that the devs keep posting about wanting parity between PC and Xbox (Yes I know they did an about turn on that TB post recently, but they've been on about parity for months before that) - This parity they want to achieve is all to do with the Xbox economy - They want to raise the cost of Zen on the exchange. To do this I would imagine they would need to increase the amount of diamonds per player to decrease their value. Which begs the question of WHY they removed skirmish/dungeon events which was the only way to put diamonds in the hands of new players, why remove diamonds from Leadership, and WHY REMOVE OUR DOUBLE AD EVENT THIS WEEKEND?
I am neither here nor there, for I am NevrCene
NevrCene: TRMelisandre: SW
Brienne: GWF
Guild : Mystic Dawn (GH20)
[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter
Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter