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  • worriedmammal8worriedmammal8 Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    Which is weird since they said they weren't going to implement changes to Xbone like the PC. Seems hard to get a clear answer or answer at all from them, which is typical. Rps should be easy as heck to get with the amount needed now. Nobody wants to sit around upgrading eight pieces until the next expansion to watch it be worthless, they really gotta learn that people put a high value on their personal time.
  • mikeyfliesmikeyflies Member Posts: 90 Arc User
    No. What they said was they weren't going to change it from the way it was on the pc. People mis-interpreted that to mean no change from xbox which was not accurate.
  • nem3slsnem3sls Member Posts: 332 Arc User
    I am experiencing about the same drop rate as before, had Opals, lesser runestones, sapphires, amethysts, peridots... nothing that I would notice a change at all.

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  • mahburgmahburg Member Posts: 598 Arc User
    patsfire said:

    @jody095 Well in this thread alone there are 4 other people that have similar experiences to me. And my entire guild has mentioned increase in refining stones. So, I guess I turn your statement around and say...Your the only one, sorry!

    Completely agree Pat our Guild is swamped with stuff just had to spring another 600K to open up slot 4 to keep stuff in we are getting so much R stuff lol

    Whatever changes they have made its definitely positive for all our guild that's for sure!
  • deadanarchy692deadanarchy692 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    I've definitly noticed it over the past few days since the patch, today i decided to really put it to the test and it seems that after farming hard for 30 mins (hotenow) my dragon hoards (10%) stopped working, i tried logging out and logging back in, changing areas (whispering caverns) to no avail after 25 mins of no refinenement (I will update if it starts dropping again tonight), seems they dont want any hard grinding/farming of refinement anymore.. or a glitch of sorts.
  • deadanarchy692deadanarchy692 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    mmkay, so after 30 mins of them not giving anything i got one minor resonance and a pearl followed by nothing for 10 more mins.
  • deadanarchy692deadanarchy692 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    so, still nothing, new day, got my daily enchanted key 25 mins ago and still no refinement drops.. so clearly its not an only so many a day thing...
  • stercesderisedstercesderised Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    Yeah...was worried about DH nerf but I love the RP collection I now have. Happily surprised. I can see why PC players were annoyed though as they already had a baseline with previous content, whereas we just now got access to it (and the RP available).
  • blindmonkeyzblindmonkeyz Member Posts: 289 Arc User
    Well there is a difference thats for sure. Take off your DH and just use your Azures to level your char to 70 and you will see the difference... LOL. after i hit 70 last Fri and put them on i got a Black Opal right away.
    XB One
    LGPG Alliance
    Reagents of Death - Leader
    CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
    SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
    OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)

    PS4
    Look Good Play Good
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)

  • deadanarchy692deadanarchy692 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    :wink: I had my char to 70 within 36 hours of the launch of EE. I'm trying to level up my arti weapons now, gonna take a while at 30 mins of farming and over 2.5 hours of waiting for them to "cooldown"
  • blindmonkeyzblindmonkeyz Member Posts: 289 Arc User
    Some of you have no life. HAHAHA. i only get to play 2 to 3 hrs a day cause of my career.
    XB One
    LGPG Alliance
    Reagents of Death - Leader
    CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
    SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
    OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)

    PS4
    Look Good Play Good
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)

  • masterwolf56masterwolf56 Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    I got two chars to 70 by Saturday lol. I'll start on my third soon.
  • kclowekclowe Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    Ive been running 15% chance for months and while the first half of the day does feel like an increase undoubtedly, the end of the night i see very liitle drops pop up in the box. Its my opinion that there is some sort of soft cap to the dragon hoards now. While the refinement never stops coming in i do feel it noticeably slows down.
  • nullvaluepointnullvaluepoint Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    Running only 1% drop a player that can kill 3-4 mobs every 15 seconds (easily done) will look like this:
    Mobs per hour: 960
    Nothing drops: 99%
    Percent chance nothing drops:
    = .99^960 = 0.00645% or 1 in 15,496

    I run 5%. As a SW I can kill pretty quickly, but I'll use a conservative 5 kills per 15 seconds.
    .95^1200 = 1.86% x 10^-27 or 1 in 540,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

    I understand the gamblers fallacy, but you have to look at the fact that nothing dropped for an hour. The botters have access to tons of collected data from all their bots. They know the formula. The only thing the developers are doing is hiding it from honest players.
  • raymond00713raymond00713 Member Posts: 312 Arc User
    It's obviously shut down at a certain point. Just play a couple days for long stretches and you can see when it happens. I'm not sure if it's an rp amount or time spent in game.

    At some point not long after you start playing, the tap is simply turned off. No more refining stones, peridots, opals, saphires. Won't change until the next day.
  • andym101andym101 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    I was running with a friend today we both have the same drop percentage where they got drops I was getting none. I changed instance, adventure zones & dungeons I have had NO drops today.
  • blindmonkeyzblindmonkeyz Member Posts: 289 Arc User
    I dont see why you all are having issues. I get lots of drops. Heck i can do dread ring dailies and get a bunch of lesser resonance stones and aquamarines and peridots. Since the new mod, my lesser resonance stone drops have quadrupled.
    XB One
    LGPG Alliance
    Reagents of Death - Leader
    CW - Phoenix lvl 70 4034 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 4012 (Main)
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 4010 (Main)
    SW - Zor lvl 70 3230 (Main)
    OP - Box lvl 70 3002 (Retired)

    PS4
    Look Good Play Good
    GWF - Ice lvl 70 3875 (Main)
    GF - Spectre lvl 70 2669 (Alt)

  • jody095jody095 Member Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Everyday I log in @ 6am and start running dailies. I get no refinement drops at all for about an hour and a half every day @ 6am. If I play again anytime after about 10:30am, I get them every thirty seconds. Eventually they seem to cut off again. I have been unable to determine repeatable patterns except every morning I will not get any until about 10:30am. I am going to be switching to fey blessing during this time. Don't ever expect to hear the formula DHE uses now from a dev. Do expect people to tell you your 1 in a trillion chance to not get drops for hours at a time is you just being unlucky.

    Edit: I assume if I didn't play at all for a full 24 hours and then logged in @ 6am I would get drops. I can't go for 24 hours though.
  • pbrand45pbrand45 Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    I get the same drops as in mod5 for an hr or 2 then it drastically drops off to almost nothing, but I do get some here and there so it's not completely shutoff.
    Which seems to be the general opinion from pc users.

    If that's the case then players would get varying results based on total time played and starting drop %.

    If I played for one hr a day, then I wouldn't notice a change at all and wonder why people were complaining.

    If you had a starting drop of 15% , and after 2 hrs they cut that in 1/2 or 3/4 you might just think u had a unlucky run. If u have a starting drop of 3% and after 2hrs they cut that 1/2 or 3/4 , you wouldn't be getting anything, wondering why it's turned off.
  • raymond00713raymond00713 Member Posts: 312 Arc User
    After some more time and attention, i change my answer to pbrand45's. I run 10% and like him or her, i see rare drops after a certain point.
  • nullvaluepointnullvaluepoint Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    @blindmonkeyz I doubt the quadrupled it. People with 15% would have noticed it. What percent are you running? There may be a new base + % value.

    Either way, they need to update the item description to reflect reality. Having 15% drop rate enchantments drop nothing most of the day is basically a lie/bait-and-switch/bad design.
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