Dragon Hoard Timer

popezen01

I am finding if I play for a an hour or two and I get some RP (Peridot etc). When I log out and come back I get nothing from then on. What are you experiencing. I am running 9%.

blindmonkeyz

I havent paid attention, been too busy grinding myself. Maybe i will check this out later and see.

pbrand45

I read somewhere that they are on for a couple hrs, then have a 20hr cool down. So they limit how many can drop in a day

soonergm

i am at 1%(other slots have azure for xp boost), and i played for about 4 hours last night and i never stopped getting RP. i never went to specifically farm for them, i was just running through the quest content.

oh, at 1% i get mostly peridots and some white pearls. i found 1 aquamarine(i think), 1 lesser resonance, nothing higher. so i wonder if there is a maximum amount of actual refinement points you can get within a certain time frame. for example, if you got 5 black opals, you get nothing for the rest of the day vs getting peridots all day long.

popezen01

I'm wondering if logging out starts that times. I did 8 hours day 1 and got RP the entire time. Once I logged back in zippo.

amafia313

I wish they would make a statement clearing this up.

patsfire

The drops are still just random. You have a 1% chance, or X% chance, of getting one to drop. If it does not drop for 99 ads, that does not mean the next one will drop one. Each ad has a 1% or X% CHANCE to drop the rp stuff. So if you have not gotten any, you are unlucky.

mahburg

Really not noticed the change, at 65 now and seem to be getting stuff to drop just as well (if not better) than I was before.
In fairness IIRC they were saying the majority of players would not pick up on it only the botters would.
Maybe its just me?

patsfire

I am currently running with 4 utility slots: 2 have rank 10 Azures, for that XP. And 2 have lvl 9 Dragon Hoard enchants. I have been getting a really good amount of Refining Stone drops, honestly I can tell that I have been getting more than I ever have. Maybe its because they changed the frequency that higher level ads drop them I don't know. But I am happy where its at.

ketthoover

The little I have played in EE so far I would agree with pats. RP seems to drop a lot more, or I missed it before it was auto picked up.

Also, I thought back during the Twitter qna they were asked if the dragon hoard nerf on the PC would be brought to x1 and the said they had no plan to change the current dragon hoards with EE.

jody095

It is nowhere near anything like it was pre-mod 6. I went from level 60-70 and got less than 20 RP's drop. Most were in the first two quests in pirates hold and ebon downs. I ran 8% drop rate the entire time from 60-70. Probably killed 5000 baddies, which should have resulted in about 400 rp drops. I got 20. This is not unlucky as some have said. It has been changed. They need to address this so we know what is what.

patsfire

Sorry man, I have gotten at least 5-10 per every 4 quests I accept and run. Thus far that has been a lot of refining stones. So yea, it is just you being unlucky. Sorry to say, but its true. I had never had an issue with inventory space, but I have picked up so many refining stones, and enchants actually, that I constantly have to open inventory to refine my lvl 70 artifact off hand.

jody095

You're the only one. Enjoy it.

patsfire

@jody095 Well in this thread alone there are 4 other people that have similar experiences to me. And my entire guild has mentioned increase in refining stones. So, I guess I turn your statement around and say...Your the only one, sorry!

jody095

k. It's widely accepted there is a second timer on DHE to combat botters. That's fine though its just me. Oh my whole guild experiences the same thing too. We're all unlucky. Maybe I should drop the guild, that could be it:)

patsfire

Must be. Truly don't know why you are having the issue.

popezen01

is it a timer per DH or as a whole?

patsfire

Haven't noticed anything in particular. Who really pays attention to how many they get anyway. I am running through quests to fast to pay attention. I just notice that when I turn in quests I have butt tons of refining stones.

tellistorterra

patsfire said:

Haven't noticed anything in particular. Who really pays attention to how many they get anyway. I am running through quests to fast to pay attention. I just notice that when I turn in quests I have butt tons of refining stones.

this is basically me. though at 3% i do feel a slight increase in the number of RP items i get. they're about the same as the types as before EE

blindmonkeyz

I dont get why everyones so worried about what they get on these and if they are nerfed or not. I think everyone should be happy that they get something when they do. Enjoy the game. So much complaining. And people wonder why i solo all the time.... LOL

soonergm

jody095 said:

k. It's widely accepted there is a second timer on DHE to combat botters. That's fine though its just me. Oh my whole guild experiences the same thing too. We're all unlucky. Maybe I should drop the guild, that could be it:)

it's widely accepted on PC, it's not widely accepted on XB1, that is why this thread even exists. we are trying to figure out what kind of nerf, if any, has been implemented. HOWEVER, i do not want to be dismissive of your claim. that happens too frequently on these forums and i find it very irritating. obviously we have people experiencing 2 very different things with their dragon hoard enchantments. imo, instead of being dismissive of each other, we should recognize that something is not consistent and there may be a bug with the RP dropping.

blindmonkeyz said:

I dont get why everyones so worried about what they get on these and if they are nerfed or not. I think everyone should be happy that they get something when they do. Enjoy the game. So much complaining. And people wonder why i solo all the time.... LOL

i like the stay positive attitude here, but look at it from another players perspective. say someone drops a few hundred thousand AD on some nice quality dragon hoard enchantments and play 8 hours and get a handful of peridots. you expect them to be happy when they come on here and see other people like myself running with a 20,000 AD enchantment that has a steady river of RP coming in? there is too much complaining in this game for sure, but in this instance something in the game may be broken, and a discussion should take place about it.

blindmonkeyz

well then thats their fault for investing on a gamble.. just like the lockboxes.. its all a gamble. you cant go complaining about gambling when its your own fault your gambling in the first place. right?

soonergm

if a player doens't get much 1 day, and then gets a lot the next day, then sure.

if a certain demographic of players is consistently getting far less than all other players, then it's a sign that something is not working properly. bug reports should be filed. discussions on the matter may help pinpoint the issue.

but you know, don't get me wrong, in general there is a lot of freaking whining going on from people in this game. i've done a bit myself, lol. i just feel that potential issues should be taken a little more seriously. also, devs usually appreciate that kind of feedback, even if it is drizzled in some whine.

patsfire

It just seems to be a small minority of people that are saying they are not getting any Refining Stones though. So I don't think it is something the devs would even care to bring up. They are focused on the bigger problems, like they should be, and not focusing on a few people crying that they don't have an easy time leveling up lol

jody095

So, it is working fine for me today. But, I swear to god it was not working. Maybe it was the 4 new areas, maybe it was just me. But it seems back to normal now. I grind RP all the time and I never killed things for hours straight and not get one drop.

jody095

Update - When I posted the above, I was at icespire peak grinding the hill and was getting a drop about every 30 seconds. Fastforward to 6 hours later. Grinded 20 minutes in drowned shore pulling groups of 10 at a time - 0 drops. So i thought... maybe its those 4 new areas, so I go back to icespire peak hill. Literally 30 minutes - I got one peridot. This is 10% drop rate.

So if we know it was altered/nerfed in PC version. What faith do you have in this company that they would create a different version for xbox. Really... all the things wrong with this game and the problems it has, but they spend money on developing a different version for xbone platform because they really want to fix things....riiiight. I guaruntee they import the same exact code from PC version. Someone is making money back there hand over fist and not putting any of it back into the game. Thats just my opinion. Maybe its only my account. Maybe if I had a 50% drop rate and played for an hour straight and got two drops, I would be told I'm just unlucky. W/E though. There will be no communication from the developers about this. They have other things to worry about.... sure thats it. I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt even know. Its a broke down version of WoW with 10% DHE drop rate of the care and effort. Could be a lot better.... You got a platform that can do things WoW can't without lots of additional downloads.

codher0

I need to make this clear. I farmed a Lot before mod 6. Mainly for stones. You should see how many stacked of stones I have. The enchantments got nerfed. Big Time! I run with 10%.

jody095

I'm back to every 30 seconds again this morning. Theres another timer....

tellistorterra

jody095 said:

I'm back to every 30 seconds again this morning. Theres another timer....

so basically it's really random?

amafia313

I believe once you pick up a certain amount of rps it just cuts off. The amount? I have no idea because they refuse to clerify. Seems like around 25-50k.

mikeyflies

Far less drops for myself as well. I run 10% and this is a large and noticeable hit. I don't believe I've hit the long timer yet as the drops have never stopped but rather appear to be at a much lower rate overall.