LS is great for solo PVE on a dps DC. If a mob would otherwise kick my butt I can just DoT it up and let it chase me around a tree or rock reapplying DoTs from time to time until it dies without my character taking any damage at all. Applying LS DoTs to every mob in a group is like having a whole group of healers. It's many times the benefit. If you're unimaginative and are just going to stand there getting pounded in the face trading blows with one mob then it might not do so much good. Of course some classes are designed to stand there and get pounded in the face so that's a different situation.
Can someone explain me exactly how to get easy 20%+ LS without T.Lifedrinker and being BIS. (Don't include anything from next mod please.)
I claim it is impossible.
20% is expensive to get but you can get a good chunk of the way there by respeccing your boons and equipping Dark Enchants, and using an augment with LS boosts too. You start to notice LS once you get over 10%, especially if you have DoT or area effect attacks.
R8s and R9s are buyable. I've got a few to R10 now. It's still a bit random but almost as good as it used to be for my main, although he has spent a few millions getting there.
Can someone explain me exactly how to get easy 20%+ LS without T.Lifedrinker and being BIS. (Don't include anything from next mod please.)
I claim it is impossible.
It's impossible without Feats. They clearly talk about p2w players, but the topic verted on how Life Steal is completely useless for normal players. Even a TR with LS feated can't benefit from it until it has at least 2k from stats. LS became a skill useful only for p2w players, not good for a free to play game.
That's what I thought but some people mentioned it like it's very easy to achieve. Apart from that, I think regen is really useful in PVP-between fights.
Can someone explain me exactly how to get easy 20%+ LS without T.Lifedrinker and being BIS. (Don't include anything from next mod please.)
I claim it is impossible.
It's impossible without Feats. They clearly talk about p2w players, but the topic verted on how Life Steal is completely useless for normal players. Even a TR with LS feated can't benefit from it until it has at least 2k from stats. LS became a skill useful only for p2w players, not good for a free to play game.
What the heck are you talking about? p2w? It's all relative. As you are leveling up you don't need that much Lifesteal.
Progress until level 70 then you start doing your boons. Do you have to pay to catch up? You sure do. Some of us have been playing for over 2 years with a main character. I'm pay here and there over time, not pay to win. If I was p2w I wouldn't be just under 2800IL. I'll take a huge jump come next 2x RP but still, BiS is around 4200IL.
Again, Lifesteal in PvE for a DPS class/build is totally achievable and you don't have to be p2w. For PvP, it's a totally different story because you need such a large amount of stats dedicated to it. It's affected by healing depression. This is not a p2w issue. You simply have to get your overall gear up so that dedicating so much to LS doesn't hurt you.
I think he is talking about LS in PVP and I claim it again, you can't get 20%+ LS without BiS. I won't make comment about p2w because I hate that term and I don't believe you need to pay to win in this game.
Because I'm bored, here's the LS we can get just from boons:
Sharandar 2nd tier: 400
DR 5th tier: 4000 (when rampaging madness procs)
ToD 4th tier: 400
ToD 5th tier 3/3: 5%
PvP 3rd tier: 400 per nearby player, max 5
It's 400 = 1% (right?), so that's a flat 7%, with increased 10% when madness procs and 1-5% more in pvp depending on how many enemies are nearby.
So for 20% you need find a maximum of 13% more from feats and stats. If that's stats alone, you're looking at a 5.2k deficit. At the very least, this will require proper feat building. I can't find a good m6 feat list (the nw-calc is pre-m5), so I can't comment on max lifesteal for various classes just from picking LS feats.
LS was the Lifeblood of my TR in PvE.. I could take a hugh hit and know I would get health back by staying in the fight and dealing damage, now, my lifeblood is RUNNING AWAY. Real fun Oh Boy.
Because I'm bored, here's the LS we can get just from boons:
Sharandar 2nd tier: 400
DR 5th tier: 4000 (when rampaging madness procs)
ToD 4th tier: 400
ToD 5th tier 3/3: 5%
PvP 3rd tier: 400 per nearby player, max 5
It's 400 = 1% (right?), so that's a flat 7%, with increased 10% when madness procs and 1-5% more in pvp depending on how many enemies are nearby.
So for 20% you need find a maximum of 13% more from feats and stats. If that's stats alone, you're looking at a 5.2k deficit. At the very least, this will require proper feat building. I can't find a good m6 feat list (the nw-calc is pre-m5), so I can't comment on max lifesteal for various classes just from picking LS feats.
Yes it seems it is possible when rampaging madness procs and when you have pvp 3rd tier. I didn't think people meant this when they were saying easy 20%+ LS. Though, you are depending on RNG to increase another RNG.
@Sharonius: you can add 800 points (2%) from major lifesteal kits.
Artifacts with lifesteal ...
ToD 5th boon 3/3 gives 6% flat lifesteal (tooltip is wrong!)
There are so many opportunities to get lifesteal and I don't think that only 10% of the playerbase are capable to reach 20%.
At the moment it's possible to reach 28-30% lifesteal ( for BiS toons) and if you add "rampaging madness" boon, you can go up to 38%+.
But you will likely anyway choose "endless consumption".
I was toying with a lock level 50 I already have 23 percent LS buffed without even really trying just via feets. I know it is not the optimal feets for a lock. Yet when I get booned , geared and gem (I currently only have three D8's on it) it up I can probably hit close to 40.
The good news is this build has allowed me to kill pallies which is all I really was going for. I mean straight face melt them.
@Sharonius: you can add 800 points (2%) from major lifesteal kits.
Artifacts with lifesteal ...
ToD 5th boon 3/3 gives 6% flat lifesteal (tooltip is wrong!)
There are so many opportunities to get lifesteal and I don't think that only 10% of the playerbase are capable to reach 20%.
At the moment it's possible to reach 28-30% lifesteal ( for BiS toons) and if you add "rampaging madness" boon, you can go up to 38%+.
But you will likely anyway choose "endless consumption".
I was toying with a lock level 50 I already have 23 percent LS buffed without even really trying just via feets. I know it is not the optimal feets for a lock. Yet when I get booned , geared and gem (I currently only have three D8's on it) it up I can probably hit close to 40.
The good news is this build has allowed me to kill pallies which is all I really was going for. I mean straight face melt them.
Lvl 50 xD first of all lvl up to 70 and look how much of your lifesteal % is left.
Warlock is probably the easiest class to stack lifesteal.
Oh I know lol yet my LS is based off of percent with sparks and crit and xy per level not a flat fee. It will help me later on and yeah stacking it as a temp will not be THAT hard but I know it will go down but that is where boons come in at and gear.
Gear, Artifacts, dark/savage enchantments in defense slots, major lifesteal kits in gear, lifesteal boons (400+ ones), ToD boon "Dragons thirsty?" (Gives actually flat 4% instead of 3% as it's stated with 1/3 points invested), lifedrinker enchantment (optional, not necessary).
2% from kits
8% from boons
4% assuming 4xDark
so you get 6% from artifacts?
Gear, Artifacts, dark/savage enchantments in defense slots, major lifesteal kits in gear, lifesteal boons (400+ ones), ToD boon "Dragons thirsty?" (Gives actually flat 4% instead of 3% as it's stated with 1/3 points invested), lifedrinker enchantment (optional, not necessary).
2% from kits
8% from boons
4% assuming 4xDark
so you get 6% from artifacts?
6xdark r10 in defense slots ...
your gear adds lifesteal. (On my gwf I get 1% from off-hand and 1% from bracers)
from boons you can get 9% if I'm correct. (Dragons thirst 3/3 = 6% + 3x 400 lifesteal)
Left from artifacts, yes.
Gear, Artifacts, dark/savage enchantments in defense slots, major lifesteal kits in gear, lifesteal boons (400+ ones), ToD boon "Dragons thirsty?" (Gives actually flat 4% instead of 3% as it's stated with 1/3 points invested), lifedrinker enchantment (optional, not necessary).
2% from kits
8% from boons
4% assuming 4xDark
so you get 6% from artifacts?
6xdark r10 in defense slots ...
your gear adds lifesteal. (On my gwf I get 1% from off-hand and 1% from bracers)
from boons you can get 9% if I'm correct. (Dragons thirst 3/3 = 6% + 3x 400 lifesteal)
Left from artifacts, yes.
Can you explain how do you have 6xdefence slots?
Oh my god, i should have stopped long ago to convince you, here is my last try:
Chest, off-hand, ring, ring, belt, pants.
You have legendary artifact equipments, rank 10 enchantments (probably mythic artifacts?) and 3.1k Item level. Excuse me I didn't expect that.
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I claim it is impossible.
20% is expensive to get but you can get a good chunk of the way there by respeccing your boons and equipping Dark Enchants, and using an augment with LS boosts too. You start to notice LS once you get over 10%, especially if you have DoT or area effect attacks.
R8s and R9s are buyable. I've got a few to R10 now. It's still a bit random but almost as good as it used to be for my main, although he has spent a few millions getting there.
That's what I thought but some people mentioned it like it's very easy to achieve. Apart from that, I think regen is really useful in PVP-between fights.
I think he is talking about LS in PVP and I claim it again, you can't get 20%+ LS without BiS. I won't make comment about p2w because I hate that term and I don't believe you need to pay to win in this game.
Sharandar 2nd tier: 400
DR 5th tier: 4000 (when rampaging madness procs)
ToD 4th tier: 400
ToD 5th tier 3/3: 5%
PvP 3rd tier: 400 per nearby player, max 5
It's 400 = 1% (right?), so that's a flat 7%, with increased 10% when madness procs and 1-5% more in pvp depending on how many enemies are nearby.
So for 20% you need find a maximum of 13% more from feats and stats. If that's stats alone, you're looking at a 5.2k deficit. At the very least, this will require proper feat building. I can't find a good m6 feat list (the nw-calc is pre-m5), so I can't comment on max lifesteal for various classes just from picking LS feats.
Would you mind telling where does that 20% LS come from?
Yes it seems it is possible when rampaging madness procs and when you have pvp 3rd tier. I didn't think people meant this when they were saying easy 20%+ LS. Though, you are depending on RNG to increase another RNG.
I was toying with a lock level 50 I already have 23 percent LS buffed without even really trying just via feets. I know it is not the optimal feets for a lock. Yet when I get booned , geared and gem (I currently only have three D8's on it) it up I can probably hit close to 40.
The good news is this build has allowed me to kill pallies which is all I really was going for. I mean straight face melt them.
Oh I know lol yet my LS is based off of percent with sparks and crit and xy per level not a flat fee. It will help me later on and yeah stacking it as a temp will not be THAT hard but I know it will go down but that is where boons come in at and gear.
2% from kits
8% from boons
4% assuming 4xDark
so you get 6% from artifacts?
Can you explain how do you have 6xdefence slots?
You have legendary artifact equipments, rank 10 enchantments (probably mythic artifacts?) and 3.1k Item level. Excuse me I didn't expect that.