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We can expect a buff to Life Steal and Regeneration in Mod 7?
arcofortep12
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We need some buff with Life Steal, some builds could work better.
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New LS is a LOT better than old LS imho.
I know it's your oppinion and all but new LS is just straigh up bad, we can't relly on it not even a little bit, RNG is just too cruel, too often on the start of a fight a get a 60k LS proc not needing it (once a got a 140k proc, I got 70k hp)
and them in the middle of the fight when I need the most, the procs I get are from 100~1000, it seems to always proc on week attacks or DoTs, it's just unfair and plain simple irritating.
LOL not every class or toon has 20% and the old system was fair, the current isn't. RNG based life steal can't be counted as fair. Simple as that.
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Life steal is one of those things where it's either amazing or unreliable and therefore worthless. You need a LOT of investment in it to make it pay off, but if you can get that investment, holy cow on a Popsicle stick!
They could leave lifesteal alone, as long as they put more of it on gear.
you think that focusing on other stats and expecting to have the same LS chance as people who focus their stats/build on LS is fair?
Truth be told, I'd just as well remove Life Steal as a mechanic altogether.
Yes it is.
As is Critical Hit and Deflect. As all three are meant to be.
What do you do, if your build does not profit from 7-10% Critical Chance or Deflect? I recommend, you do the same if that is true for Life Steal...
Last time I complained, that I can not build a high end damage build with my GF that can compete with a SW or that I can not build a Tank with my CW that can take as much damage as a Paladin, people began to laugh....
In the old system, by the way, a CW could heal faster and better with life steal, than a class with less damage. Not very fair.
When Life Steal procs, the chances of you being at full life are pretty high.
Compare the amount of time you spend at full health to the amount of time you lose excess damage when you crit but didn't need to.
Also, unless they vastly changed how deflect works, deflect has always been mathematically a bad choice. Though I guess with all the one shot kills, it's a lot better now, since who cares if the net damage taken over time is less with defense, the "relevant point" is whether or not you go to 0 or less at any given time.
Nope, the chance is always the same, you just notice it more when you're dying.
The usefulness of increased damage is 0 when you're already dealing enough damage with the triggering blow to kill the enemy.
Comparing the frequencies of these two events is meaningful in terms of discussing the actual usefulness of a feature.
More specifically, the frequency and magnitude of life steal is a question of "out of all possible circumstances, which one turns dying situations into not dying situations." Compare this to Critical Strike which is "out of all possible circumstances, does this A.) let you not die in a situation you'd otherwise die in (because you're killing things faster so they deal less damage to you, aka best defense is a good offense) and B.) make you kill things faster, allowing you to kill more things in a shorter period of time."
Just saying "the chance is always the same, you just notice it more when you're dying" is ignoring this fundamental dynamic.
No regen in combat on the other hand pretty much destoryed some builds and playstyle. Please consider restoring regen back, atm its a useless stats - how do u make use of it? Dont engage in a fight?
That being said, I do like the two stats, as they make the game more solo friendly, but that's apparently not what the dev team was going for when they made the change.
Im am a cw with all LS blues and 3 rank 12 darks. 80K HP and 20% LS. Absolutely love it. As I go for stongholds gear I will depend on HP from gear and move defensive radiants to LS.
I claim it is impossible.
20% is expensive to get but you can get a good chunk of the way there by respeccing your boons and equipping Dark Enchants, and using an augment with LS boosts too. You start to notice LS once you get over 10%, especially if you have DoT or area effect attacks.
R8s and R9s are buyable. I've got a few to R10 now. It's still a bit random but almost as good as it used to be for my main, although he has spent a few millions getting there.
That's what I thought but some people mentioned it like it's very easy to achieve. Apart from that, I think regen is really useful in PVP-between fights.
I think he is talking about LS in PVP and I claim it again, you can't get 20%+ LS without BiS. I won't make comment about p2w because I hate that term and I don't believe you need to pay to win in this game.
Sharandar 2nd tier: 400
DR 5th tier: 4000 (when rampaging madness procs)
ToD 4th tier: 400
ToD 5th tier 3/3: 5%
PvP 3rd tier: 400 per nearby player, max 5
It's 400 = 1% (right?), so that's a flat 7%, with increased 10% when madness procs and 1-5% more in pvp depending on how many enemies are nearby.
So for 20% you need find a maximum of 13% more from feats and stats. If that's stats alone, you're looking at a 5.2k deficit. At the very least, this will require proper feat building. I can't find a good m6 feat list (the nw-calc is pre-m5), so I can't comment on max lifesteal for various classes just from picking LS feats.