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silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
Invoking.. omg , its been weeks and weeks and weeks.
I REFUSE to let this go, this is just plain terrible coding, when you enter a game, hit Ctrl I , you expect it to invoke, but no.. sometimes you have to wait, sometimes you have to zone..

BUT regardless of player work arounds.. THIS is just plain icky , I shouldn't HAVE TO WORK around your terrible coding on this.

When I log into the game and hit Ctrl I , IT SHOULD invoke.

This isnt even a top game concern , this is just plain ridiculousness.
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  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    Invoke once. Wait 5 seconds, invoke the second time. it is now fixed until reset the next morning.
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  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    It's not a bug, it's a feature. Having to double invoke the first time now is a bot deterrent.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    How so? A bot cannot be programmed to do ctrl-I, sleep 10 seconds, ctrl-I?
    It is an human deterrent.

    By the way, the unstackable bag is an established bot deterrent because you can't invoke if your bag is filled.
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  • sabre10sabre10 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 340 Arc User
    With the greatest of respect, having a delay applied to professions completion didn't make any noticeable difference to the situation and that decision was reversed.
    I'm pretty unconvinced that this will make any meaningful difference beyond applying collateral annoyance to the player base.
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  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    This cannot be a feature because it not always have a delay, just most of the time.
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    Its super annoying.. YES I already said its not a top concern, but neither should it continue.

    Ive had 21 straight invokes, this morning my gwf took 14 tries.. its ridiculous(14!!!!!!!). Im tired of it. Im tired of a lot of other shenanigans they have installed , but come on...

    I cant think of any OTHER game that installed such terrible annoying features to be anti bot.
  • maegmaagmaegmaag Member Posts: 332 Arc User
    kreatyve wrote: »
    It's not a bug, it's a feature. Having to double invoke the first time now is a bot deterrent.

    Ill take that as a "kreatyve" sarcasm. To tell the truth, i dont think there are any at all anti-bot features/measures. None of the things the playerbase widely complained about past two years could a sane person take for an antibot measure. Its either bs-ing the players/customers, or we r served by beings lower than a magpie bird inteligence wise (and yes, there are at least 5 such animals with selfawareness), which is unlikely for a magpie cant write a single sentence, the less code.
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  • rickcase276rickcase276 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,404 Arc User
    But in the Stronghold build on the preview server, or at least I can, you are able to invoke on the first try. So maybe it is being fixed come Mod 7.
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    Just another thing, that punishes the normal players and not the bots...
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    What I find more interesting is that when I Invoke on Mimic... I get the animation AND I do not have to invoke twice to get the first one. ​​
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    silverkelt wrote: »
    Its super annoying.. YES I already said its not a top concern, but neither should it continue.

    Ive had 21 straight invokes, this morning my gwf took 14 tries.. its ridiculous(14!!!!!!!). Im tired of it. Im tired of a lot of other shenanigans they have installed , but come on...

    I cant think of any OTHER game that installed such terrible annoying features to be anti bot.

    Hmmm! If you need 14 tries, there is something wrong. This is what I do:

    CTRL-I, waiting until the screen grey out, CTRL-I again. This pattern never fail for me so far.

    Yes, that is annoying because I may not remember it is the first invocation of the day (especially, early in the morning).
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  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    It's been working before, now it isn't since a few weeks. Was it with the introduction of the new invocation reward system? I somewhat forgot, so many bugs popping up with mew patches one forgets about the temporal framework...

    ...yeh. Probably officially not a bug, but another part of another naive offensive against them eeeeeeevil botters.
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    No, it was working fine with the new invoking system for a while, then came a patch, and suddenly you had to do a raindance before it works.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    When the new invoking system came out, you needed to do 2 CTRL-I.
    Then, they claimed they fixed it (without mentioning a word the fix is about anti-bot in the patch note).
    The patch introduced a delay for the first invocation. The other invocation needs one CTRL-I again (this is good).
    Then, the "explanation" came out as an "anti-bot" measure. >:)
    I asked what kind of "anti-bot" measure it is when it can be solved by a simple delay at the moment that explanation came out back then.
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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    Well, i had no problems with the new invoking, until some patch came along.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    regenerde wrote: »
    Well, i had no problems with the new invoking, until some patch came along.

    I am with you. I take 2 CTRL-I for all 6 invocations over this stupid "anti-bot" patch any time, any day, any minute.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    But in the Stronghold build on the preview server, or at least I can, you are able to invoke on the first try. So maybe it is being fixed come Mod 7.

    Yes, it's a bug, and it'll be fixed August 11. (But probably not sooner.)

    Anyone claiming it's an anti-bot measure is out of line.
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  • instynctiveinstynctive Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,885 Arc User
    My morning invoke routine:

    CTRL+I
    N
    (Do professions stuff)
    N
    CTRL+I
    ESC ESC
    Select next character

    Takes me (depending on the number of profession slots), roughly 45 seconds per character. If I'm not also checking forums or rolling the D20 in SCA.
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  • denvalddenvald Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 702 Arc User
    kreatyve wrote: »
    It's not a bug, it's a feature. Having to double invoke the first time now is a bot deterrent.

    This is ridiculous, they'll simply code their bots to invoke twice, nothing will happen if they click twice it's no different.

    Unstackable bags? Didn't you know that they can program their bots to open them automaticly?

    Really what progress have we made aside from messing with legit players? This is like burrying our heads in the sand no less
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    My morning invoke routine:

    CTRL+I
    N
    (Do professions stuff)
    N
    CTRL+I
    ESC ESC
    Select next character

    Takes me (depending on the number of profession slots), roughly 45 seconds per character. If I'm not also checking forums or rolling the D20 in SCA.

    I do something similar but my problem is I often forget about the 2nd CTRL-I and after "Select next character", I swear and go back to the original character ......
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  • instynctiveinstynctive Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,885 Arc User
    plasticbat wrote: »
    I do something similar but my problem is I often forget about the 2nd CTRL-I and after "Select next character", I swear and go back to the original character ......

    Yeah.. that sometimes happens.

    Or I forget who I left off with.

    Or something. lol


    The rest of the invokes during the day is MUCH easier... I don't wait for the "this is what you got..." screen. As soon as I see the timer pop up in the little icon at the top of the screen, I hit ESC and head to the next one.
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  • xreverusxxreverusx Member Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    silverkelt wrote: »
    Its super annoying.. YES I already said its not a top concern, but neither should it continue.

    Ive had 21 straight invokes, this morning my gwf took 14 tries.. its ridiculous(14!!!!!!!). Im tired of it. Im tired of a lot of other shenanigans they have installed , but come on...

    I cant think of any OTHER game that installed such terrible annoying features to be anti bot.

    I have it bound to F1 but still... what you gotta do is just hold the button down till it invokes... don't push it again and again.... just hold it down, it works quick and easy ; )

  • alcyndoralcyndor Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I would have to hit CTRL+I twice for the 1st invoke to work before this past Thursday. I believe we had a small patch? Anyways everyday since Friday my first invoke has worked on the 1st attempt. Maybe it has been fixed?
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    xreverusx wrote: »
    I have it bound to F1 but still... what you gotta do is just hold the button down till it invokes... don't push it again and again.... just hold it down, it works quick and easy ; )

    I suggested this method before until ..... I found out when I have 14 coins, it will also do it as if I agree to invoke it without taking the coin.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    alcyndor wrote: »
    Before the latest patch i would have to hit CTRL+I twice for the 1st invoke and once for the rest. Since then the 1st invoke has worked on the first attempt. Maybe it has been fixed?

    Not for me.
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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    It's just getting worse... now i have to wait a minute before i can log onto the next character, or i end up at the login instead of the character screen.
    But that's probably also a "bot deterrent" thing... right?
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    regenerde wrote: »
    It's just getting worse... now i have to wait a minute before i can log onto the next character, or i end up at the login instead of the character screen.
    But that's probably also a "bot deterrent" thing... right?

    I would say so as "bot deterrent" result of the gateway leadership nerf. Bot and everybody just go to the game to do profession and kill the login server in the process. I predicted that and it is happening.
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  • gweddrygweddry Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 278 Arc User
    kreatyve wrote: »
    It's not a bug, it's a feature. Having to double invoke the first time now is a bot deterrent.

    This does absolutely nothing against bots, just annoys honest players.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    regenerde wrote: »
    It's just getting worse... now i have to wait a minute before i can log onto the next character, or i end up at the login instead of the character screen.
    But that's probably also a "bot deterrent" thing... right?

    Are you changing characters while in Icewind Pass or Dwarven Valley? They've built in a delay there to keep people from logging out to deny a kill/execution.
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