theycallmetomuMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,861Arc User
Don't say that. I still use the gateway for a number of things.
Mostly selling crafted items on the AH. Or checking my mail, to see when items sold on the AH have been sold. And of course there's managing my alchemy tasks, now that Unified Elements have gone up in price again.
A bunch of people are saying we're punishing players
I certainly feel like I'm being punished. I understand that some people were abusing the gateway but surely they should be punished/banned/penalised rather than punishing everyone. The only upside of this is that I now get more time to eat my lunch!
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theycallmetomuMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,861Arc User
Hmmmm...
It's not punishment, in the sense that one Anthony Scalia said that torture isn't cruel and unusual punishment, because it's not being done to punish, it's being done to extract information.
IF removing the gateway was intended to provide a disincentive for players to pursue a given action, then removing the gateway is what's known in psychology as negative punishment; that is, removing a positive stimulus. So, the only thing stopping this from being punishing players is motivation which, as far as the player base is concerned, is largely a moot point.
I still fail to see the difference in a gateway bot vs a player with max leadership. If you only have to cycle one time per day and make the same AD as someone botting, where is the difference?
looks like this change was great ,instead of few millions of backlog on ad exchange we have 17k zen on 500 to buy
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ironzerg79Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,942Arc User
So I timed it in game since the change.
To pray, refine and reset Leadership on 24 toons (all at 25, 188 slots total) it to me just under 19 minutes.
I run Leadership once per day, 3 x Fight Elemental Cultists, 3 x Escort a Wizard to Saskatchewan, and 2 x Destroy Enemy Camp. Personally, I found getting the refinement stones from EWS, plus just selling the pieces needed for the rare tasks maximizes my AD gain, particularly for the time invested.
That comes out to a little over 13k AD/min plus whatever I get from selling leadership resources/refining stones on the AH.
... and getting a new character to level 25 leadership with just the assets you get along the way will take you how long now?
I'm trying to find a recent/up to date guide for leadership, but i can't find any... would be nice to have one, to show the Devs how long it takes to level up leadership from scratch.
It just looks like another change, that this will just punish new players a lot more then any vet. player.
Same with the XP grind.
Same with the boons grind.
Same with nearly any change, that has hit the game this far.
There is the statement, that this is only the first step in something bigger, but not a word about that certain bigger picture...
I do believe in killing the messenger...
Want to know why?
Because it sends a message!
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,355Arc User
... and getting a new character to level 25 leadership with just the assets you get along the way will take you how long now?
Before the patch, about 4.5 months. After the patch, well, I guess over half a year.
I was a new player in mod 3 and swallowed that 3 months to 20 and than 1.5 months to 25 later.
*** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
On the contrary, new players are already benefiting from this change because the backlog on the Zen-AD exchange went from 2.5-3 Million AD (one week ago) to almost nothing today.
How many new players even know about the gateway? Why would a new player even use the gateway for leadership?
To update his measly 1-3 profession slots?
If new player has a job and can only login to gateway at work, then he also has money and need not rely on leadership farming in gateway.
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,355Arc User
On the contrary, new players are already benefiting from this change because the backlog on the Zen-AD exchange went from 2.5-3 Million AD (one week ago) to almost nothing today.
How many new players even know about the gateway? Why would a new player even use the gateway for leadership?
To update his measly 1-3 profession slots?
If new player has a job and can only login to gateway at work, then he also has money and need not rely on leadership farming in gateway.
New players do not get benefit because 2.5 - 3 million backlog means 2 to 1 week wait only.
If you plan ahead, this is not even an issue. It was over one month when I joined in mod 3. I had no real problem back then neither because I planned ahead. Submit the transaction whenever I have spare AD such as 10 - 100 Zen at a time.
Any new players who have ONE companion should know about gateway because your companion told you to go there.
New players can know about this game too. It took me a week to know how to leadership in gateway and I had more than 3 slots.
Many players come there for free to play. The one who has job knows well how to save money and not to buy something that can be free; especially, when you know whatever you invest now will be more or less useless in next mod (or even next patch).
Are you going to throw away your money that way?
It also sucks as new pay players because the Zax rate drops because of this change. That is your cash worth less for buying AD.
In addition, a new player won't be a new player forever.
*** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
They sold you character slots and you still have them, or did they take you away slots?! No? So why are you complaining?
Read it again. Character slots were purchased with the sole purpose of farming leadership AD using a browser wherever and whenever I wanted to do it. That's what was 'on the shelf', that's what was 'purchased'.
Applying your line of argument to my hypothetical mount example:
me: I paid 25 bucks for that damn mount, now they change it?
xsay: They sold you a mount and you still have it right? Did they take the mount away from you? So why are you complaining?
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,355Arc User
If i missed the context of your original statements, I'm sorry, my mistake.
Your statement: "Many players come there for free to play. The one who has job knows well how to save money and not to buy something that can be free; especially, when you know whatever you invest now will be more or less useless in next mod (or even next patch). Are you going to throw away your money that way?"
I thought you were talking about purchasing items from PWE with real money (thru zen change first of course)... and your use of the term 'save money' was in the sense of saving 'real' money. Will go back and read it all again, maybe I missed something. No offense intended.
I just read it as saying: "people with real jobs should be smart enough to not spend real money to buy something that can be obtained for free (as in, spend money to buy character-slots when you can get them for free just making a new free account)."....
If i mis-read you, sorry about that. Will strike the sang:blahblah line from post...
Ok. Let me make it clear. My point was about obtaining AD.
You can exchange AD from Zen (which you pay "money" to buy) or getting AD from leadership and other mean ("free").
When I say "whatever you invest now will be more or less useless in next mod (or even next patch).", I means what you can buy in general including both through AD or Zen.
For AD, if you invest million AD to get Dragon Hoard enchantment, it became useless in the "next patch".
If you bought inventory bags (using Zen or AD (before the change)) so that you can transfer that among character, you can't anymore. If you invested million AD to buy RP to upgrade your AE in mod 5, its value is discounted in mod 6.
If invested million AD to get 5 personal rings (or more if you played multiple characters) in mod 5, they are replaced in mod 6 and you can't even salvage them; especially, when you finally accomplished that in the tail end of mod 5.
I am NOT saying losing the "value" is right. I am saying losing the "value" is either out right wrong or part of life in NW. Hence, I am not willing to give cash to do so. In fact, I am not happy to give out game money (AD/Zen) neither.
*** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
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tripsofthrymrMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,624Community Moderator
looks like this change was great ,instead of few millions of backlog on ad exchange we have 17k zen on 500 to buy
Could be because lots of players just gave up altogether. I have (not even logged in to the game once since the change). Only Cryptic has the data to make an educated guess as to whether they have effectively stopped bots or alienated too many players.
I am pretty sure that if toon slots were intended just for AD farming, there would not be a toon linked to them. They are meant for creating characters and Playing in-game content. Leadership farms are why we are in this mess.
I would guestimate that 90% of all toons created in this game are ONLY for farming AD thru leadership, but I don't have data... lol
I have 7 toons. Not one of them was created for Leadership farming.
I am pretty sure that if toon slots were intended just for AD farming, there would not be a toon linked to them. They are meant for creating characters and Playing in-game content. Leadership farms are why we are in this mess.
I would guestimate that 90% of all toons created in this game are ONLY for farming AD thru leadership, but I don't have data... lol
I have 7 toons. Not one of them was created for Leadership farming.
Guess again.
I have one friend who has 52, 51 is for farming ad thru leadership. I have a guildie that has 26, 25 for farming ad. I personally have 13, 12 are for farming ad. (open calculator)...
ad farming: 51+25+12 = 88
total toons: 52+26+13+7 = 98
88/98 = 89.8%
I'm close... and I can give you their names in game if you want...(PM me, not going to put their names here)
I'm so disgusted with the way this game has been run they literally have until the next patch to add a plethora of ways to earn AD, fix and implement the dungeons that were taken out, undo the stupid <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> from mod 6... all im saying is the next patch better <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> wow me or im uninstalling and never looking back or looking at another game from these "people".
Pretty much have it figured that im never logging in again. I shouldn't say that. I'm probably drop everything in the guild bank but that's it. I already started downloading another MMO and looking around at a few others.
I am giving them a chance to make it up in the next patch (a 2 day double AD is not <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> acceptable)... maybe they couldn't patch everything at once, maybe the down time would take to long, maybe they weren't done testing, etc. but that's it.
I like others have spent money to purchase char slots because i was told that a leadership army was the only real way to progress. The only way i can reliably use leadership is thru the gateway.
Basically, I do not trust them anymore to provide a stable gaming environment. i would like to progress but every avenue has be shut down other then the zen market or spending every waking moment in game.
And the fact that they have been working on mod 7 while there is a ton of stuff that they could fix in lieu of spending developing time on another mod that in all likelihood break more stuff is beyond aggravating.
I've actually come to love this change. I wasn't sure I was going to bother playing after Strongbugs rolled out. Now I don't have to wait. I'm actually more excited to check the steam stats periodically just to see how low the population goes after this one than to bother logging in.
I am pretty sure that if toon slots were intended just for AD farming, there would not be a toon linked to them. They are meant for creating characters and Playing in-game content. Leadership farms are why we are in this mess.
No, no it is not. I'm fairly sure caturday and the MONTHS of resonator AD had a little more to do with it. But you still get people who blame it on keys so... The economy was pretty stable before those 2 instances.
Tons of 50+ character slot accounts botting Leadership has the exactly same effect like resonator exploit back in the days.
Leadership is actually also part of the problem we're facing since some time. Not to say so has 2 reasons.
1. You either have tons of AD slaves yourself
2. Or you are stupid or lying because of point 1.
It's not even remotely close to the resonator bug. Even an army of 1000 leadership toons can't generate the same AD that one player was able to do in a couple of hours. Not to mention, you needed months to get those leadership toons up to a proper level. AD Resonator was doable by pretty much anyone. Zax was backlogged to over 14M at one point.....
As has been pointed out, the bots doing leadership are now doing it ingame. The only ones hurt are the players that needed to set up their leadership while at work or on the train or otherwise away from their PC.
Be prepared for the population to drop to the point that the only thing seen in zone or lfg chat is bot advertisements.
They sold you character slots and you still have them, or did they take you away slots?! No? So why are you complaining?
Read it again. Character slots were purchased with the sole purpose of farming leadership AD using a browser wherever and whenever I wanted to do it. That's what was 'on the shelf', that's what was 'purchased'.
Applying your line of argument to my hypothetical mount example:
me: I paid 25 bucks for that damn mount, now they change it?
xsay: They sold you a mount and you still have it right? Did they take the mount away from you? So why are you complaining?
No, I wouldn't answer this way! If they sell you a mount with 110% speed they have no right (in theory they have ) to change this 110% to 80%. That's btw a very bad example which is also different from your complains.
What you don't get is: they don't sell character slots for the solely purpose to make AD slaves. They sell them for creating a new character which you play ingame to discover a new adventure!
Where did you read that character slots are advertised as Leadership AD grind machine?!
There is completely no connection between the change to Leadership & character slots bought.
It was your decision to buy character slots for the solely purpose of Leadership, they didn't advertise it the way you bought it for. If they change one part of the game and another part gets affected, then, well, shiet happens!
Looks like they have started deleting some of my posts in this discussion... so is there any point in replying here?
(EDIT: (can't resist) the conclusion was: if f2p sells x in a cash-shop, they should NOT later do away with it, and then expect people to keep buying from them. and to respond to you: correct! they did not 'advertise' that character-slots were for leadership-ad-farming. They also did not advertise that it was for 'ingame discovery and new adventure'. It just says 'character-slots'. If they create a game, it's my joyful task to figure out how to play any way I can. I figure it out, then they 'fix' it and negate my purchase. So i'm pissed. You didn't chose to play that way, so you don't care, I'm stupid and was conned, it's my fault, I know. Eventually they will get around to negating something you've purchased... and when that happens, I will not get on the forums and blame you. good luck. (I figure this will get deleted too))
I said it in my prior post, time vs reward is plain bad in this game. That an army of Leadershipchars can create a whole lot more ad in a very short timeframe than a player who actually play the game several hours per day is just sad. If this doesn`t get any attention soon, i will start using every means to get ad. This excludes Zen. I spent money on every game i play. i spent over 2k on poe over 2 years. Do i had to pay anything there? No poe is a truly f2p game and not a p2w like here, all u get are cosmetics stuff. I spent some money at the beginning to get a mount and some little stuff. Thats all u get from me until u give some response to your time vs reward "system". If not either i exploit the hell out of everything i find or i am gone sooner or later, so is my money
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theycallmetomuMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,861Arc User
I would think players logging in is only a good thing for Cryptic if it drives more zen sales.
Otherwise, it's just more load on the server, meaning it costs more to maintain.
Last night for example I did a dragon run, so that's about 30 mins including the time finding an instance in time. I got no resonance stones at all, 3 pieces of level 69 blue gear (worthless, they never sell) and five enchantments (worth about 100AD each). So I need around, what, 100 million AD, to get my artifacts up to to something decent and in 30 mins end game grind I made 500. Is it a wonder people run bots or buy from gold sellers.
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theycallmetomuMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,861Arc User
Yeah, it takes me like 5 to 10 minutes just to log in and run tasks on 2 characters (with just invoking on two others).
It may be a regional thing.
Has anyone considered that maybe Cryptic WANTS to alienate heavy Gateway users though? If they're doing nothing but using the Gateway, then they're not contributing to their market share. They want people to leave, because they're using up system resources. Distorting the market and whatnot is, well, largely irrelevant for them I would think.
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theycallmetomuMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,861Arc User
To be fair regarding artifact equipment, if you wait for a double refining weekend and refine your legendary artifact weapon into a level 60 version, you'll get to rank 57 or so, so it's not like your RP expenditures have been wasted; you just need-::checks the chart:
929,000 more RP than you already have.
It's why I, despite being a FILTHY CASUAL! who never does anything but leadership (historically on two characters), selling shirt/pants/rings, and invoking, actually has a legendary level 70 artifact weapon.
In fact, the artifacts are one instance where your gear becomes invalidated at a less frequent rate than everything else. Since the new artifact weapon has better stats than the old one, you basically have your old artifact weapon but to max it out (and get better stats) you need that extra RP.
It is true that your mounts are being invalidated though. I'd generally encourage something I saw on here, about "Horseshoes of the Zephyr" to give mounts w/o the +4000 movement rate the +4000 movement rate. Obviously a zen shop item.
I'm not defending the RP system as currently implemented, and I'll concede that it's nonsense that you basically have to wait for double RP weekend to not be severely gimped (they should just make double RP permanent IMO, and never offer double double RP weekends), but I do think that at least re: artifact gear, concerns about irrelevancy due to newer mods are misplaced.
Another fun fact is: on Xbox One are already way too many spammers for AD selling and we don't even have the gateway available as of now. So actually arc games should already be aware, that taking leadership off the gateway won't change a thing, but they are doing it anyway. That makes me wonder, why they still going through with it ... because in the end only the real player base will suffer from it. And on Xbox the market is already crashed. Nothing to worth to sell, but the rest to expensive to afford.
It just looks like another change, that this will just punish new players a lot more then any vet. player.
Same with the XP grind.
Same with the boons grind.
Same with nearly any change, that has hit the game this far.
Maybe the think of it as fair, since they bore the vet players with their moronic quest in recycled maps more than the new ones, who still enjoy the leveling < 60 and have high hopes for the "endgame"?
I doubt that even a new player will have any high hopes for the endgame, as soon as they see the grind required for even leveling one character to 70.
And then the grind to fill the overflow for a random chance on a single power point.
I also doubt that Strongholds will make it all better... the new module will just add more to the grind mountain.
I do believe in killing the messenger...
Want to know why?
Because it sends a message!
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theycallmetomuMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,861Arc User
I fiddled with Strongholds on the preview server and wasn't particularly impressed.
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myles08807Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 409Arc User
Who are you people who define "botting" as "having a number of alts and collecting Leadership rewards manually from each regularly"? WHO ARE YOU, that I may find you and teach you each an individual lesson?
Who are you people who define "botting" as "having a number of alts and collecting Leadership rewards manually from each regularly"? WHO ARE YOU, that I may find you and teach you each an individual lesson?
There are loads of 'em. Too many to do individually. You'd probably have to write some sort of script... ;p
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Mostly selling crafted items on the AH. Or checking my mail, to see when items sold on the AH have been sold. And of course there's managing my alchemy tasks, now that Unified Elements have gone up in price again.
I certainly feel like I'm being punished. I understand that some people were abusing the gateway but surely they should be punished/banned/penalised rather than punishing everyone. The only upside of this is that I now get more time to eat my lunch!
It's not punishment, in the sense that one Anthony Scalia said that torture isn't cruel and unusual punishment, because it's not being done to punish, it's being done to extract information.
IF removing the gateway was intended to provide a disincentive for players to pursue a given action, then removing the gateway is what's known in psychology as negative punishment; that is, removing a positive stimulus. So, the only thing stopping this from being punishing players is motivation which, as far as the player base is concerned, is largely a moot point.
To pray, refine and reset Leadership on 24 toons (all at 25, 188 slots total) it to me just under 19 minutes.
I run Leadership once per day, 3 x Fight Elemental Cultists, 3 x Escort a Wizard to Saskatchewan, and 2 x Destroy Enemy Camp. Personally, I found getting the refinement stones from EWS, plus just selling the pieces needed for the rare tasks maximizes my AD gain, particularly for the time invested.
That comes out to a little over 13k AD/min plus whatever I get from selling leadership resources/refining stones on the AH.
I'm trying to find a recent/up to date guide for leadership, but i can't find any... would be nice to have one, to show the Devs how long it takes to level up leadership from scratch.
It just looks like another change, that this will just punish new players a lot more then any vet. player.
Same with the XP grind.
Same with the boons grind.
Same with nearly any change, that has hit the game this far.
There is the statement, that this is only the first step in something bigger, but not a word about that certain bigger picture...
Before the patch, about 4.5 months. After the patch, well, I guess over half a year.
I was a new player in mod 3 and swallowed that 3 months to 20 and than 1.5 months to 25 later.
How many new players even know about the gateway? Why would a new player even use the gateway for leadership?
To update his measly 1-3 profession slots?
If new player has a job and can only login to gateway at work, then he also has money and need not rely on leadership farming in gateway.
New players do not get benefit because 2.5 - 3 million backlog means 2 to 1 week wait only.
If you plan ahead, this is not even an issue. It was over one month when I joined in mod 3. I had no real problem back then neither because I planned ahead. Submit the transaction whenever I have spare AD such as 10 - 100 Zen at a time.
Any new players who have ONE companion should know about gateway because your companion told you to go there.
New players can know about this game too. It took me a week to know how to leadership in gateway and I had more than 3 slots.
Many players come there for free to play. The one who has job knows well how to save money and not to buy something that can be free; especially, when you know whatever you invest now will be more or less useless in next mod (or even next patch).
Are you going to throw away your money that way?
It also sucks as new pay players because the Zax rate drops because of this change. That is your cash worth less for buying AD.
In addition, a new player won't be a new player forever.
Read it again. Character slots were purchased with the sole purpose of farming leadership AD using a browser wherever and whenever I wanted to do it. That's what was 'on the shelf', that's what was 'purchased'.
Applying your line of argument to my hypothetical mount example:
me: I paid 25 bucks for that damn mount, now they change it?
xsay: They sold you a mount and you still have it right? Did they take the mount away from you? So why are you complaining?
Ok. Let me make it clear. My point was about obtaining AD.
You can exchange AD from Zen (which you pay "money" to buy) or getting AD from leadership and other mean ("free").
When I say "whatever you invest now will be more or less useless in next mod (or even next patch).", I means what you can buy in general including both through AD or Zen.
For AD, if you invest million AD to get Dragon Hoard enchantment, it became useless in the "next patch".
If you bought inventory bags (using Zen or AD (before the change)) so that you can transfer that among character, you can't anymore. If you invested million AD to buy RP to upgrade your AE in mod 5, its value is discounted in mod 6.
If invested million AD to get 5 personal rings (or more if you played multiple characters) in mod 5, they are replaced in mod 6 and you can't even salvage them; especially, when you finally accomplished that in the tail end of mod 5.
I am NOT saying losing the "value" is right. I am saying losing the "value" is either out right wrong or part of life in NW. Hence, I am not willing to give cash to do so. In fact, I am not happy to give out game money (AD/Zen) neither.
Could be because lots of players just gave up altogether. I have (not even logged in to the game once since the change). Only Cryptic has the data to make an educated guess as to whether they have effectively stopped bots or alienated too many players.
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Guess again.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
I have one friend who has 52, 51 is for farming ad thru leadership. I have a guildie that has 26, 25 for farming ad. I personally have 13, 12 are for farming ad. (open calculator)...
ad farming: 51+25+12 = 88
total toons: 52+26+13+7 = 98
88/98 = 89.8%
I'm close... and I can give you their names in game if you want...(PM me, not going to put their names here)
Pretty much have it figured that im never logging in again. I shouldn't say that. I'm probably drop everything in the guild bank but that's it. I already started downloading another MMO and looking around at a few others.
I am giving them a chance to make it up in the next patch (a 2 day double AD is not <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> acceptable)... maybe they couldn't patch everything at once, maybe the down time would take to long, maybe they weren't done testing, etc. but that's it.
I like others have spent money to purchase char slots because i was told that a leadership army was the only real way to progress. The only way i can reliably use leadership is thru the gateway.
Basically, I do not trust them anymore to provide a stable gaming environment. i would like to progress but every avenue has be shut down other then the zen market or spending every waking moment in game.
And the fact that they have been working on mod 7 while there is a ton of stuff that they could fix in lieu of spending developing time on another mod that in all likelihood break more stuff is beyond aggravating.
It's not even remotely close to the resonator bug. Even an army of 1000 leadership toons can't generate the same AD that one player was able to do in a couple of hours. Not to mention, you needed months to get those leadership toons up to a proper level. AD Resonator was doable by pretty much anyone. Zax was backlogged to over 14M at one point.....
As has been pointed out, the bots doing leadership are now doing it ingame. The only ones hurt are the players that needed to set up their leadership while at work or on the train or otherwise away from their PC.
Be prepared for the population to drop to the point that the only thing seen in zone or lfg chat is bot advertisements.
Looks like they have started deleting some of my posts in this discussion... so is there any point in replying here?
(EDIT: (can't resist) the conclusion was: if f2p sells x in a cash-shop, they should NOT later do away with it, and then expect people to keep buying from them. and to respond to you: correct! they did not 'advertise' that character-slots were for leadership-ad-farming. They also did not advertise that it was for 'ingame discovery and new adventure'. It just says 'character-slots'. If they create a game, it's my joyful task to figure out how to play any way I can. I figure it out, then they 'fix' it and negate my purchase. So i'm pissed. You didn't chose to play that way, so you don't care, I'm stupid and was conned, it's my fault, I know. Eventually they will get around to negating something you've purchased... and when that happens, I will not get on the forums and blame you. good luck. (I figure this will get deleted too))
Otherwise, it's just more load on the server, meaning it costs more to maintain.
It may be a regional thing.
Has anyone considered that maybe Cryptic WANTS to alienate heavy Gateway users though? If they're doing nothing but using the Gateway, then they're not contributing to their market share. They want people to leave, because they're using up system resources. Distorting the market and whatnot is, well, largely irrelevant for them I would think.
929,000 more RP than you already have.
It's why I, despite being a FILTHY CASUAL! who never does anything but leadership (historically on two characters), selling shirt/pants/rings, and invoking, actually has a legendary level 70 artifact weapon.
In fact, the artifacts are one instance where your gear becomes invalidated at a less frequent rate than everything else. Since the new artifact weapon has better stats than the old one, you basically have your old artifact weapon but to max it out (and get better stats) you need that extra RP.
It is true that your mounts are being invalidated though. I'd generally encourage something I saw on here, about "Horseshoes of the Zephyr" to give mounts w/o the +4000 movement rate the +4000 movement rate. Obviously a zen shop item.
I'm not defending the RP system as currently implemented, and I'll concede that it's nonsense that you basically have to wait for double RP weekend to not be severely gimped (they should just make double RP permanent IMO, and never offer double double RP weekends), but I do think that at least re: artifact gear, concerns about irrelevancy due to newer mods are misplaced.
And then the grind to fill the overflow for a random chance on a single power point.
I also doubt that Strongholds will make it all better... the new module will just add more to the grind mountain.
There are loads of 'em. Too many to do individually. You'd probably have to write some sort of script... ;p