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So they will leave the lostmouth bonus like that?
generalcole
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So they will leave the lostmouth bonus like that?So op?Everyone and every class must to use it if he want to be competitive?wth
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P.S. Yes, I do have LoL set. I also remember the joy I had when I finally equipped its last part, after dozens LoL runs and hundreds k of AD (I bought the belt), went to a dungeon and saw the boost my toon got
Also, forget about "Crit build" with CW and TR... ...yeah, for fighters and HR, this damage buff might be lower if and when they don't go for crit.
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All classes building crit will be hit hardest.
Wizards running Eye of the storm get 100% crit rate at the beginning of battle (which lasts 7 seconds @ level 4 and has a 20 second cooldown).
That right there is %35 crit (7 of 20 seconds - Not 100% as everyone suggests) + actual crit rate (lets use 50% as an example)
7 seconds of Crit (100% for the first 7 of 20 seconds) (Actual crit stat ignored here)
+ 6.5 seconds of Crit (50% ((Actual crit rate)of the the remaining 13 seconds until cooldown expires)
= 13.5 seconds of Crit in every 20 seconds (Until Eye of the Storm cooldown expires)
13.5 out of 20 seconds is 67.5%
So a wizard with a 50% crit rate and Eye of the Storm end up with a final crit rate of 67.5%. Only 17.5% actual crit boost from Eye of the Storm. In fact the higher the actual crit rate the lower the benefit of Eye of the Storm. Not game breaking and not nearly as good as GWF or TR. Now short fights that are over in 7 seconds or less are indeed 100% crit, but what fights that actually matter to other players are over in 7 seconds now? Even then. It's 13 seconds until Eye of the Storm processes again.
Why? When the GWF had Deep Gash bug which in essence had the same issue than Lostmauth's set, the devs clearly stated that it was a bug so they fixed it. Afterwards, when kessell's artifact was released, we had the same issue because the artifact was doing much more damage than intended, it was fixed. So, it is just a matter of time.
Lostmauth's set is critting and benefitting from Power/Damage bonuses in the same way.
FYI, TRs gain 100% crit in stealth, but most will only be in stealth at around 3~4 at-will attacks unless using glooming cut. The rest of the time they will be out of stealth which is about 75% of the time. Glooming cut TRs do no where near the amount of damage a duelist flurry TR do since they use more damage encounters than a glooming cut/stealth TR.
For CWs, I believe Eye of the Storm CD starts after it ends. This was a couple of mods ago so not sure if this has changed. My CW does not use EotS as Chilling Presence is much better. I am at 60% crit with it + 5% with uncertain allegiance which is almost always up a second or two after the battle starts.
No. I have thoroughly tested this. The cooldown timer starts when Eye of the Storm triggers. I am 100% positive.
It is 7 seconds Eye of the Storm Crit (At rank 4) followed by 13 seconds of players sheet crit before it triggers again. I had my son use a stopwatch to test it.
Storm Spell and Chilling Presence are both superior in my opinion. Eye of the Storm is only useful while leveling or with a low crit/high power build.
The more crit you have the less valuable Eye of the Storm becomes. Any wizard with Chilling Presence and Storm Spell available but still using Eye of the Storm with a sheet crit rate of 40% or better is not doing themselves (or their party) any good.
You can't honestly believe that. Name me once in the entire history of MMOs where, when one item of a class of items was obviously superior in every way to everything else in that class, everything else was buffed to that level instead of one thing being nerfed down.
I am sure it will remain potent; maybe not as potent as it is now, but potent enough to justify the expenditure. Those are great items for almost all DPS classes even without the set bonus.
The point is this IS NOT a CLASS SPECIFIC buff. All the other overpowered then nerfed abilities that I can remember were CLASS SPECIFIC and gave a specific class a specific boost. This set does not. It boosts all classes. (Even better for classes that can use STR/DEX)
The point is not that it can be used by all. The point is it is so good that the other sets are not valid choices any more for ANY class. This obviously is not intended.
Since using the non-set-bonus artifacts should be viable too, no set bonus should give more than 2-3% extra damage. I seems like someone typed one 0 too much on the Lostmauth set damage.
60 million dmg - Lostmauth User
15 million dmg - me
12 million dmg - other cw
2 million dmg - DC
1 million dmg - GF
is this JUST the 3set? or some other bug (feytouched?)
if its WAI, then i hope the other 3 sets get buffed.
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Well, actually it's more - not 100% overall, but not 35% either. Point is: Trash often enough is dead (even by my rather medicre Wizards DPS output) before EotS is over. So until you're up to elites or giants or bossfights, the rate is somewhat above those 35% you suggest. also it's a bit about slack time: Combat isn't always going over multiples of 20 seconds.
On the other hand again, lowering the global +Dam% ACT tells you, there are other Crit associated boosts already in place: Storm Spell, Vorpal, Companion buffs, which lower the percentage the Lostmauth set bonus contributes. One could make a more or less accurate guesstimation, but this doesn't change the global message: The bonus is heave, BiS for many classes, and hence just what the dev's (official...) reasoning behind obsoleting 60 armour set bonus was - is ridiculed by this set bonus.
Let's see what will be done about that...
Might also be some other factor - like him using Lightning WeapEnch - IF this procs the Lostmauth bonus (which would then make this specific combo waaaaaayyyy OP!)
5 TIMES your damage with full orange vs purple + lol set? Oh man... maybe you should ask him for build/playstyle. In this scenario he should deal like 10% more damage, not 400%. Dont delude yourself that its just the lol set, you will be disappointed when you finally get it and other guy will still deal 4 times more damage.
Unless u compared full tank OP vs full dps GWF, then its ok
This kind of **** never happend before...i was always on top dpser
I think this set is working perfectly for mod 6 difficulty level, problem is with others sets being too weak.
You see, when the set is BiS even for CWs and SWs even though it has STR and DEX on it, you know that IT IS broken. Otherwise they'd stick to CHA/INT/CON and give a flying duck about that. But they don't.
a) There might or might not be unwanted interagtions giving that set an unwanted effect beyond what was intended - like proccing full weapon damage on minuscule damage attacks e.g.. This then is an exploit and should be fixed. If this isn't the case, still
b) This set bonus is so obviously more powerful than all others that some balancing should happen. Doesn't necessarily mean Lostmauth nerf, could also be a buff to the other sets.
c) The bonus is so diametrally opposed to the (official) arguments for making all pre-Mod-6 armor obsolete - set bonus too powerful, gear choice limited, exclusion/kicking for ppl with different choices - that it cries out like a furuncle in a supermodel's cleavage.
LOL! I hit 7k regularly with my at-will attacks if I critical (and I critical pretty regularly).
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