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mehguy138
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As the the tittle suggest we all know that this class has a excellent tab mechanic he doesnt even have to meet any condition like for example GWFs needs to burn hp before he gets a reasonable amount for unstopa while on the other hand a TR gets the stealth with amplifying effects with the above mentioned it is over the wall advantages over melee and ranged classes that only gets 3 encounters and fragile class mechanics that needs certain conditions.
Moreover TR is a melee/range class (I have it so I know how easy it is to chain cc and burst damage using this class) he can stream consistent damage and lock cc from distance making melee and ranged classes easy target punching bag.
Moreover TR is a melee/range class (I have it so I know how easy it is to chain cc and burst damage using this class) he can stream consistent damage and lock cc from distance making melee and ranged classes easy target punching bag.
M6 almost drains your soul given how boring it is. (c) joocycuzzzzzz
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There is a 5 second CD on stealth, unless you choose the easy route and go perma. IMHumbleO, the perma build may need to be ended or augmented in PvP play. Stealth is originally from 'Hide in Shadows' also there is a percentage of failures. a rogue is not meant to remain hidden from all... as long as they want.
There are not a lot of shadows in GG, yet a TR with perma-stealth can run from node to node without coming out. It is a great thing to keep in a shadowy dungeon. I am glad that the bug which allowed some TRs to hide in the bases, and deal damage with being hit, is ending. I have played against a few TRs that used this A LOT. Personally, I would rather L2P, my build, than to use a crutch.
It should not have encounters that refill stealth.
The base stealth duration should be some seconds longer. No stealth depletion.
And should naturally refills and not deplete in combat upon damage taken allowing the tr to go stealthed every tot seconds no matter what happens in between.
All of these while offering reliable ways to stick to the enemy and effectively destroying the idea of permastealth while leaving stealth its importance. Right now once you r unstealthed you are not going to enter it again.
It was proposed by me during the rework but gc skipped completely.
The idea of losing your stealth bar when out of stealth because you are receiving damage is idiotic as much as the idea of a true permastealth which is mo more but still.
hr /10chars
Wasn't supposed to be a serious thread, but I'm gonna reply to this. Even if you find a TR in stealth, it doesn't mean you can kill him nor deal any damage most of the time.
So ask for a nerf to Sabos and support the change to other TRs into becoming more of 'brawler' types. Deal?
But i predicted that after Perma stealth, they want a nerf for EXE, for dodges, for controls, then for the existence of the class.
They are called tricksters, maybe give them a wand that does magic tricks. That would be really fun. OP is a genius
Executioner is FoTM: I don't like the way Exes play, nerf it to make it easier for me!
Scoundrel is FoTM: I don't like the way Scoundrels play, nerf it to make it easier for me!
Saboteur is FoTM: I don't like the way Sabs play, nerf it to make it easier for me!
It's hilarious because Sab was always on top and people whined about the other two trees.
There is.
It's called: L2P.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Stop polluting forums.
Or an easier fix would be to remove the "stealth refill" on all encounters and GC feat... Then it would require much more skill/positioning to stay in stealth and utilize it more.
Its really probably just three things actually:
1) Shadow Strike - remove the "stealth refill" ability outside of stealth. Let it INSTEAD Daze targets outside stealth, and the INSIDE stealth version NOW refills stealth.
2) GC - "Sneaky Stabber" should be changed to some type of damage boost instead, or like "attacking from stealth with at wills deals 2/4/6/8/10% more damage"
3) Lurkers Assault - Should JUST be an "insta fill" of your stealth meter NOT a stealth regen buff. Keep or increase the damage boost if you want.
Problem solved.
I think this is the issue. With great stamina regen, stealth regen, ITC, stealth refill encounters there really is no break in the rotation. It gets worse when you add things like Lurkers + Shadowy Opp + Lostmouth set + COS spam and you literally MELT someone with just a few daggers that each (100% crit) crit for 10-20k on high tenacity targets because it bypasses all DR.
When you have something that provides (ITC) immunity and then an encounter that reflls stealth so you can hide in stealth for days, there becomes no break in rotation.
You know a class is broken when one of the best TRs is still using Profound set for the set bonus and dominating people in full BIS lvl 70 gear.
Maybe its time to take the TR down a small notch. I would INITIALLY be in favor of just removing "Shadowy Opportunity" as piercing damage but I think everyone is just SO dang sick of the meta of chasing around TRs on a node for literally the entire games existence. Nothing is more aggravating chasing a target you cannot see and cannot catch and has NOW been given amazing unparalleled offensive piercing damage as well.
This is why I think my above comments would really alleviate that.
remove the stealth refill OUTSIDE stealth on Shadow Strike - that can remain an in stealth bonus only (as a way to extend stealth but not regain stealth)
Then you can change lurkers assault to insta fill stealth rather than creating a perma stealth refill for 8 seconds.
Then GC - do what you will I think the above 2 may be enough of a change to alleviate but not nerf too hard.
This is the problem.
TRs have two paragon paths. Balance for both.
Stop applying blankets nerfs to MI. They always hit WK the hardest.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
I know your just trolling the TR saying HR(s) are OP... i honestly LOVE fighting rogues, except the ones that go easy mode in PvP with permastealh.. unless i see a rogue fighting someone else, he beats me pretty much 100% of the time if he gets the jump on me (as he should) however the perma steatlhs are just silly.. i have watched them take down 3 players at once simply because no one can find the guy, he has to run away after 2 so his cooldowns go away so he can refill stealth bar again, but that is about the only down time they have on the build..
i haven't a clue how to fix it because i have not played my TR in a year+... I just know it is the most boring/annoying domination matches when 2+ tr's have that build on the same team.. it is pretty much a guaranteed win, because to beat them it takes all 5 players which leaves the other two nodes open, OR you ignore them and they hold 1 node 100% of the time.. Oddly though it was never a HUGE issue till level 60-70 matches.. before those levels the most annoying was paladins who could turtle up and became unkillable due to low damage and ability to heal themselves out pacing the ability for a group to damage them..
Everyclass in PvP has it's annoyance/niche it is just when it is consistently 1 build and skill set being used obviously something is outta wack, but you can't really balance PvP and PvE at the same time, though doing things like they did with the HR and reducing the daze/roots on players vs mobs helps reducing PvP str while not nerfing them beyond belief in PvE
So, I would presume that you play a MI/Sab TR. With this presumption your are telling me that because you are able to hide to avoid damage you know how to play? Tell me that, AFTER you switch to play an WK/Exec TR. I went the Sab route for a short while... I stopped that because it was too easy to play. I want a challenge when I play. I do not want to face roll anyone or anything that I come up against.
I think you need to l2p your class before you select a tree because it is the easiest choice to play.
I would seriously like to commend ANY player who is still choosing Scoundrel in this mod and my hats off to all of the other Exec out there for standing true.
I would presume that my TR's paragon is in my signature.
In blinding red text.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Exec's are now suffering because people were whining about Shadow of Demise. Yet no one has pushed for a Sab reduction. You talk about your perma-stealth/ daze TRs... that is what you are talking about. Please stop throwing US all under the same bus. If you choose to whine... know what you are whining about.
I, personally, like to hit another player from stealth with a powerful LB then stand toe to toe fighting, winning sometimes... and losing sometimes. Which is why I chose Exec.
@mjytresz- a retired WK TR does not mean much. Recent knowledge is important your retirement suggest that there is a lack of recent, mod 6, knowledge. Well, except on the receiving end.
There are few ways to troll people on the internet that are as satisfying as this. Sorry but true.
Np remove the piercing damage hide 100 %crit and itc and we are all in agreement.
Do you ever consider what your posting or even remotly think before you write all this stupid nonsence of yours.
Oh and btw where is your hr that wold do so good againt gwfs i still give you 100k ad for each match you win 1-1 against my gwf with your mighty hr Mr Clown k9madrush...
thanks i hope he actually takes you up on it and you record it and post it on every comment he makes about how hrs are op.
Warning troll incoming evacuate the bridge!
this man can not count he seems to think having 2 sets of 3 at wills = 9...
only in herpdederp land does 2 x 3 = 9..