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Old life steal vs New life steal
burkaanc
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Which do you prefer, IMHO new lifesteal is fail, lifesteal already is really unreliable with crits, deflects and endless consumption, new one will make things more random and prone to strings of attacks that lifesteal or attacks that dont
old one is much better
and whats the point of getting 100% lifesteal from 500k hit if you dont have 500k hp, so most of the stat will be simply wasted
old one is much better
and whats the point of getting 100% lifesteal from 500k hit if you dont have 500k hp, so most of the stat will be simply wasted
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I payed a lot of attention to this yesterday playing my HR. Over and over.... I'm at 75% hps, still waiting. Im at 50%, waiting. 25%, waiting. Pop a health potion.
I actually died to a group of mobs once, since LS appears to be nonfunctional.
I can understand the purpose for this with all the classes, save one.
Now there is a threat of dying and you have to use potions wisely.
It was more exciting getting crit by the giant crab for 18k, have a dot on me and my skills locked out (my max HP 26kish). I had to figure out how to stay alive (kiting in this instance and even using terrain to my advantage) and gamble if I wanted to depend on LS or chug a potion. I decided to gamble and just rely on my LS when my skills came back up. I didn't die but I can't say it would always go in that favor. Player actually has to think a little more with the new LS.
19.5k gs lvl 70 @ lvl 62 zone and chugging pots, the only health i get is with restoring strike
I think they are having issues with their formula right now, so you may not be getting the correct amount of lifesteal. Saw a dev say something in another post.
I just hit 61 and it looks like my lifesteal just plummeted by half. I was at 14% and now I'm at 7%.
yea and its getting worse every level, they said smth about different formulas post lvl 60, but this is insane 1st game in history where you level up to become weaker
Old LS was OP, I'm glad it was changed, not liking very much the new one from what I'm reading, but we'll have to see, that's why it's important to post our opinions on it.
name a reason why ?
tanking on life steal instead of tank stats and cleric on your rear is harder and more fun, if encounters are set up properly
this game is designed to be played with life steal, else there is too many attacks that arent meant to be dodget, not to mention that not all classes have the luxury of dodge
Life steal tanking negates any reason to bring a real tank to your party.
But why would anyone bring a tank to any party with the LS/regen changes? Healers are much better at tanking now.
Fine, bring both.
The point is, LS tanking negates the need for *anyone else* besides damage dealers to be in the party.
You don't really believe I'm going to roll a Protector and a Faithful DC in a dungeon now?
Here's what will happen: CC. CWs. That what you want?
And my point is that the content is not shaped for these changes. Just look at the devils in Tiamat temple. Their regular hits reach 20k damage! Is making LS unreliable and regeneration non existent really the way to go? Is everyone now supposed to carry a tank and a cleric in their pockets just to survive?
no, badly thought out encounters negates reason bringing real tank to a dungeon, whats the point of a tank if bosses do low damage, if more bosses were like in esot that can 1shot about anything thats not a blocking GF
if they wanted tank and spank they could have made another boring wowclone with tab targeting, that is why it IS action mmorpg that if you are good enough you can do a lot solo, like Vindictus/TERA where ppl who are really good can solo their level dungeons because they know how to play, and its possible to do that even without life steal since those games are made to be played without life steal and all attacks can be evaded, not like here where homing mob autoattacks hit you for half of your hp
Not getting hit? Not every class has dodge immunity and not all attacks can be walked out from.
Like an SW? Considering I've seen a video of one soloing CN at 13kgs, I think that it can be done.
Seriously? You're gonna bring a class that relies solely on LS to survive into a topic about the new LS which makes that impossible, and then tell me how you have seen this class solo CN with the old LS? I don't even...
You must of not got the soulbinder memo.
Mod 5 lifesteal works the way all D&D lifesteal items have worked by taking a portion of the damage you have done to a creature and applying it to your own life points.
Mod 6 lifesteal works in a way that randomly gives lifesteal by a chance % factor instead of every bit of damage done.
What does this mean?
Mod 5 lifesteal worked in favor of all classes with all attack speeds because every hit generated HP.
The more powerful the hit the more life you would gain. The more enemies hit the more life you would gain.
Mod 6 lifesteal works in favor or rapid attacks and aoe casters. People who use slow powerful hits in combat will be killed by their enemies if fighting larger groups and not 1 vs 1. Think how many 1vs1 encounters you face in neverwinter (none)
So not only are you not going to be healed for certain by your lifesteal points, but regeneration will also not work until you are out of combat mode.
Great job on making AOE classes and rapid attack caster king in mod 6.
I feel sorry for anyone that still has to do Tiamat or even pirate king in mod 6 with the new mechanics as they currently are.