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Official Feedback Thread: Hunter Ranger Cap Raise
asterdahl
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Greetings Adventurers!
In conjunction with the forthcoming raise to the level cap, each class will see additions and adjustments. This content will gradually be made available on our preview shard. As it becomes available we would very much like to collect your feedback!
This thread will be focused on the Hunter Ranger. Initially only new class features will be made available, however this thread will be updated alongside the preview shard in the future.
Although the new feats for other classes have been made available with this release, we would like to apologize that Hunter Ranger's new feats are not available for preview at this time. We are working to bring them to you as soon as possible.
Class Features
The following class features will become available at 60 points.
Feats
The following feats will become available after investing 10 paragon points into the corresponding tree. Feats previously available at 10 points have been moved to 15, those available at 15 have been moved to 20, and so on.
Archery
Combat
Trapper
In conjunction with the forthcoming raise to the level cap, each class will see additions and adjustments. This content will gradually be made available on our preview shard. As it becomes available we would very much like to collect your feedback!
This thread will be focused on the Hunter Ranger. Initially only new class features will be made available, however this thread will be updated alongside the preview shard in the future.
Although the new feats for other classes have been made available with this release, we would like to apologize that Hunter Ranger's new feats are not available for preview at this time. We are working to bring them to you as soon as possible.
Class Features
The following class features will become available at 60 points.
- Crushing Roots: Your Weak Grasping Roots now also Daze the target for .5s and your Strong Grasping Roots Daze the target for 1s.
- Rank Up: Duration +100%.
- Seeker's Vengeance: Your attacks deal 10% more damage when you strike from behind the target.
- Rank Up: +5% damage.
Feats
The following feats will become available after investing 10 paragon points into the corresponding tree. Feats previously available at 10 points have been moved to 15, those available at 15 have been moved to 20, and so on.
Archery
- Longshot: Your critical ranged attacks also deal a bonus 20/40/60/80/100% of your weapon damage as physical. This bonus is tripled for encounter powers and is multiplied by 5 for dailies.
- Hasty Retreat: When you take damage from a foe you gain 5/10/15/20/25% more move speed for 6 seconds.
Combat
- Lucky Blades: Critically Striking or Deflecting an attack grants you Lucky Blades, which increases your AP generation by 2/4/6/8/10% for 4 seconds.
- Skirmisher's Gambit: Your critical chance is reduced by 2/4/6/8/10% but your critical severity is increased by 10/20/30/40/50%.
Trapper
- Forestbond: When you apply Grasping Roots you reduce the cooldown of all of your currently recharging powers by 3/6/9/12/15%
- Trapper's Cunning: Your critical strikes have a 5/10/15/20/25% chance to apply Weak Grasping Roots.
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Ive been trying my HR on preview and aiming constricting arrow with Crushing roots feat at a group of mobs (inlcuding some "medium", not only the trash) end up with every mob dead without have to worry to hit them again. Basically every mob get inmobilized and then the root proc kill them before they have time to move again. My first impression is that it become a bit overpower at least at lvl60 with corrupted set, arti weapon and rank 7 radiant. The toon im using have 19k GS on live server so its not weak but is not the strongest either and im clearly killing easilly now.
Before this mod I was prefering Archery for PVE content, now with such level of control skills seem that Trapper is the only way to go for every HR. U can try to go melee but u get <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> without life steal and the roots deal more extra damage than the "Prey" bonus+u can AoE inmobilize all the mobs together.
This class feature is essentially ruined. The conditions that make this class feature work and the effect it grants (regeneration) is so counter productive. It doesnt really provide any reasonable benefit.
i can't wait to see what you've got for us guys as feats
P.S. As part of an effort to make feat icons more clearly match their effects, some existing Hunter Ranger feats have received new icon treatments, and some feats have had their icons swapped. With that in mind, please be careful when selecting feats until you're used to the new icons, we hope the changes improve clarity in the long run!
Soo... a choice between more AP gain and a literal gamble. Neither of those are particularly attractive.
Skirmisher's Gambit is a significant buff to a stat that you can't conventionally gear for... and a debuff to the stat that you need to make it useful! It would be far more appealing with a smaller severity buff and no reduction in crit chance.
Lucky Blades is a buff to AP generation... but AP generation is not a problem this class needs to solve. Our appealing dailies all use less than a full bar, and can be used nearly on cooldown.
My suggestion for Skirmisher's Gambit: 2-3% per rank to both critical and deflection severity.
My suggestion for Lucky Blades: I got nothing. I don't usually like to complain unless I have an alternative, but this feat isn't bad, just... irrelevant.
+1
Feedback - Lucky Blades: Combat AP generation is slow compared to the other trees, so this is something I would love to test. I currently have and use the DC artifact to fill the gap in lack of AP. That is even with adding recovery into my stats. Though our dailies tend to be lackluster. Please fix Cold Steel Hurricane into something worthwhile
General Feedback: On the side note, why are we all now being pushed to play trapper?
I was one of the rare PvE'rs that played combat spec and loved it. I never play nor will play PvP but trapper is getting all the love. They get great CC, great damage and now they can have daze on top of it all. Survivability does not seem like a big issue with the CC and damage. What do combat get? They get great survivability, decent damage, no CC and do not provide much for group play besides for AotP (if slotted).
Combat needs to have a better cooldown mechanic. Serpent Weave (.5s cooldown reduction when shifting) is a complete joke. The Royal Guard set put combat into a fast and furious setup with quick stance dance using all our abilities at a much better pace. We just don't get the CC which is fine for the trade off of survivability and we would still focus on melee but that would help bump up our dps with a faster rotation. Combat should not be just for PvP! Not to mention a lot are switching to trapper for PvP anyways.
these consideration does not require testing so i m not talking about bugs.
Archery
Longshot: Your critical ranged attacks also deal a bonus 10/20/30/40/50% of your weapon damage as physical. This bonus is tripled for encounter powers and is multiplied by 5 for dailies.
PERFECT
Hasty Retreat: When you take damage from a foe you gain 5/10/15/20/25% more move speed for 6 seconds.
the path lacks survivability, this may help. Good enough. Problem: PVP hr set already have 25% additional movement speed. A HR moving at 25%+25%+enchants may be a tad much.
Combat
Lucky Blades: Critically Striking or Deflecting an attack grants you Lucky Blades, which increases your AP generation by 2/4/6/8/10% for 4 seconds.
oh god....hr does not need action points... increased critical chance for 4 seconds would be awesome.
Skirmisher's Gambit: Your critical chance is reduced by 2/4/6/8/10% but your critical severity is increased by 10/20/30/40/50%.
again...there are so many things wrong here. A combat HR does not have high critical chance. Now with lv60 curves a combat hr can reach 30-32% critical chance. With the new curves maybe a 18-20%. You really are going to take away another 10% for 50% additional critical severity for a crit that may never come?
Trapper
Forestbond: When you apply Grasping Roots you reduce the cooldown of all of your currently recharging powers by 3/6/9/12/15%
good. we are already plenty of cd reduction but more is always good. i would like something more original tho.
Trapper's Cunning: Your critical strikes have a 5/10/15/20/25% chance to apply Weak Grasping Roots.
i hate random procs. this random proc will become a random daze with the new class feature.
....not good.
That is true, with the new class feature. However it synergies best for the trapper tree since they will already be using skills that provide root effects as their go to. There is no way I am swapping to very lacking encounters that don't function good unless feated (trapper).
Feedback - Seeker's Vengence: I understand class features were meant to be easily swapped out for situational use but this one is almost completely useless while soloing, even with a tanking companion. It hasn't been worthwhile to swap out an augment companion for a tanking companion. Even then, an archer at ranged would waste (dps) time moving behind the target (since you can't control the companion) and a combat spec wouldn't even need such a companion, thus obviously tanking the mob(s) and not being able to hit them from behind enough times to make it worthwhile.
For PvE group play, this is still pretty iffy as it is. This is a action MMO, meaning we have to move around, A LOT. Getting behind a target isn't the easiest thing to do, especially in an add swarm enviroment. Then we have to dodge the red zones. In other words, this may be a dps increase, ONLY if you can get into the proper position and the up time will be rather low. That won't happen with enemies like dragons because of their deadly tail swipe. Why even bother using it when you can use other skills that will boost your dps or utility all the time or with a much higher up time?
Perhaps if this feature is tied to combat advantage instead. In that case I might drop my defense a bit as combat spec (Lone Wolf) and slot Seeker's Vengence + Aspect of the Pack instead.
Feedback:
OP
Lucky Blades: I feel that instead of ap generation, maybe it should give increased damage or crit chance/severity to fit better with the name but also be more useful in my opinion
Skirmisher's Gambit:this seems terrible, I mean penalizing the stat we need that would make this feat useful seems silly; especially with the new stat curves after 60, I would rather it give a lower crit serverity boost with no crit chance penalty
Trapper
Forestbond: When you apply Grasping Roots you reduce the cooldown of all of your currently recharging powers by 3/6/9/12/15%
At least for me, this is not useful. 90% of the times when i used all my encounters in a stance and shot 2 at wills, i already have the encounters on the other stance ready.
Trapper's Cunning: Your critical strikes have a 5/10/15/20/25% chance to apply Weak Grasping Roots.
Is ok if it works with at wills.
Class
Crushing Roots: Your Weak Grasping Roots now also Daze the target for .5s and your Strong Grasping Roots Daze the target for 1s.
Rank Up: Duration +100%.
Good if you are an archer, good if you are a combat, if you are trapper the effects overlap other hunter ranger trapper effects, making this feats useless. I tested with my ranger and the only benefit i got was another icon on my enemies.
However, it might be some sinergy with trapper's cunning. That would need to be check
Seeker's Vengeance: Your attacks deal 10% more damage when you strike from behind the target.
Rank Up: +5% damage.
I can't imagine this being useful, and worse, it is not fun at all. It might be good for archer, it surely is harder for combat, and for a trapper is impossible due the rythm and movements you need to keep.
I rather have a bonus in my damage after getting damage. That way this feat would be good for combat and trapper and the other one for archer.
As much as I would love permanent increased AP generation, I do not believe this is working as intended. Lucky blades will proc randomly, even in safe zones such as PE. It also will not drop off going through a very odd count timer.. for example: 6..4..6.. or 6..5..4..3.. then back to 6 and it will cycle over and over. I have fey thistle boon.. might be related.
Bug: Lucky Blades occasionally activates without an obvious trigger, as above, but I do not have fey thistle boon
Bug: The following ranger powers have invalid rank 4 effects, unless the devs are planning to increase max party size: Boar Hide, Hawkeye, Oak Skin, Stag Heart, Fox's Cunning
Crushing Roots does not seem to proc or have no visual effect of daze.
I've tried this one capped to 4 in new area.Even if visually you have roots applied mods are still attacking in you are in their reach area.
FEEDBACK
This is more general. First roots seem to applies less times on new mobs as compared to tiamat area.
Battleborn - New Regen and LS makes this feature useless. 400 regen at 4 tier gives to few bonus to heal to be useful. It would be very good if this feature mechanic would be reworked.
Skirmisher's Gambit - with new stat curves it becomes hard to get any decent crit chance. Might be good if this one would have 4-6% of crit loss rather 10% to be any useful.
Also old HR gear for combat has very low crit stats. but need to look at new gear to compare.
Lucky Blades - this seems to suffer the same issue as old heal on deflect. looks like you guys did not fix deflect trigger and just nerfed old combat pvp gear for no reason. Deflect is still triggering randomly. It can trigger heal on deflect and lucky blades out of combat or on Buff.
You do need to fix deflect and remove ICD from pvp combat sets. Both old and new. Since with new regen/LS will not have crazy heals we have without ICD. now with ICD that heal on deflect is useless. In new mod it will even bigger <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
Fix deflect. Remove ICD form armor set.
Pathfinders Action applies only +15% deflect at 4t tier. Not +20% as supposed to be.
Feedback
Skirmisher's Gambit - damage from behind is HR thing. It is rather TR feature not HR. As for what I play and see it is very rarely possible to do damage directly from behind. Instead suggestion is to change it to "10% more damage..." in combat advantage.
it does not reduce hindering shot cooldown.
Rank 4 gives negative deflection.. went from rank 3 @ 35% to rank 4 @ 24%..
I've been solo questing with Rank 4 Crushing roots + Constricting Arrow as a combat HR and I have to say that I'm pretty impressed. It's actually very beneficial, just have to mix up my toolkit a little but so far for solo play, I give it a thumbs up. Only level 61 (almost 62), have yet to see how it fares on tougher mobs at higher level. I can see this having usefulness in group/dungeon play giving combat more CC for the party.
Switching stance after proccing Biting Snares no longer procs Master Trapper or any of its effects; the only observable effect is increase damage by 3% while Biting Snares is activated.
Adding points in this class feature causes you to lose deflect instead of gaining it.
adding the 4th point makes you lose 10% deflect
tooltip says it snares while it does not.
does not gain anymore bonus damage with ranks
does not proc on melee encounters
BUG: MASTER TRAPPER CAPSTONE
is not working.