I'm already working on the Docks district map, it's obviously not the same as a real area, but it's better than nothing.
I wish we had foundry contests where the winner entry gets added to the game as a real map. (even if it is small things like tavern interiors or whatever)
Hmm. Maybe it's time to start the Foundry Community Contest with a theme of the destroyed docks district.
Well, my docks version is the New Docks District, so it's not destroyed, it's more in construction, like the rest of the enclave.
I'll post some screenshots later
Thanks for all of the comparitive maps Zeb. Good info.
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dragoness10Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 780Arc User
edited September 2014
If chronomancy is involved.... well things get messy in magic anyhow. That's why we get Wild Magic - a very noble and confusing pathway of The Weave.
: whistles and goes to the dock of Caer Koning to watch the fishes swim:
" I tried to figure out the enigma that was you, and then I realized mastering Wild Magic was easier." - Old Wizard in Waterdeep
"Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."
"Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
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zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
edited September 2014
I've been more aware of the surrounding terrain outside playable areas lately. As I was running a character through the class artifact quest, I came upon this sight off to the West as I was going across the Sleeping Dragon Bridge, which is right where the Northern Docks (north of the river) would be:
(Click images for full view)
Here's another view:
Granted, this is no where near the scale of the current 4e map and lore but could very well be another sign that Lord Neverember is in the process of rebuilding the Docks District for the 2nd time, which would place Neverwinter before 1479 DR. Yet we have Rohini in the game, which means we are either in or after 1478 DR.
Alas, with the Tyranny of Dragons active however, this should mean we are in or after 1479 DR.
So... get to work Lord Neverember! You should have had the Docks District done years ago!
Most definitely some Chronomany going on! Perhaps by a latent Wild Mage to boot! *the old mage, who specializes in chronomancy... being a follower of the incarnation of Mystryl and all.. sniffs the air and nods in agreement with the dragoness*
I've been more aware of the surrounding terrain outside playable areas lately. As I was running a character through the class artifact quest, I came upon this sight off to the West as I was going across the Sleeping Dragon Bridge, which is right where the Northern Docks (north of the river) would be:
(Click images for full view)
Here's another view:
Granted, this is no where near the scale of the current 4e map and lore but could very well be another sign that Lord Neverember is in the process of rebuilding the Docks District for the 2nd time, which would place Neverwinter before 1479 DR. Yet we have Rohini in the game, which means we are either in or after 1478 DR.
Alas, with the Tyranny of Dragons active however, this should mean we are in or after 1479 DR.
So... get to work Lord Neverember! You should have had the Docks District done years ago!
Most definitely some Chronomany going on! Perhaps by a latent Wild Mage to boot! *the old mage, who specializes in chronomancy... being a follower of the incarnation of Mystryl and all.. sniffs the air and nods in agreement with the dragoness*
I love it when Zeb pops in its like an open D&D encyclopedia! Such interesting reads, makes this game more RPG for me!
Okay all you Dock fanciers, I'm thinking since the "official" foundry contest is in full swing, it's time to resurrect/kick-off the first Community Foundry Contest. Take a look and let me know any feedback/suggestions and I'll post the official un-official notice this Friday evening.
Background Lore
As for the original Docks District, that area of what is now Protector's Enclave simply no longer exists and is instead a sheer cliff down to the sea where the new Docks hug what is left of that area up to the Western Walls of Protector's Enclave. You can see this best when looking out to the West from the Moonstone Mask or its bridge area. The Original Docks area was rebuilt once but was destroyed again. Now it lingers as remnants of floating earthmotes that were once connected by rope bridges (akin to Pirates Skyhold's earthmotes).
The new Docks area now rests outside the City Walls to the West, both South and North of the Riverway. The only part of the old Docks area that remains is anywhere from 75 feet to 150 feet from the Western City Walls, down a steep cliff to the sea. The cliff itself is about half that distance, leaving just enough room for a road and wooden docks jutting into the see, with a few larger building in the areas that are just large enough for them.
Black-market trade does flow in from the Sea and some brave adventurers do still use the old earth-mote access ways.
However, most of these black-market routes are underground routes that come in through access-ways in the side of the western cliff and usually travel through the sewers or other caverns and tunnels made during the Spellplague, Mt. Hotenow eruption, and beyond. Legal trade in the City, mostly flows in from the High Road through the main city Gates and from the Docks District into Protector's Enclave through the South City Gate by the Seven Suns Coster Market.
Contest Theme
While most rebuilding efforts have been focused on the docks on the south side of the river, Lord Neverember wants to begin sending architects and engineers down to the north side docks to beging evaluating and planning their rebuilding efforts. Unfortunately Sgt Knox and the Guards are busy keeping the new Cult of the Dragon cultists in check.
You have been asked to assess the situation down at the northern docks and "evict" anyone not authorized to be there.
Requirements
Leave from PE Sleeping Dragon Gate
Sleeping Dragon Bridge
Path down to North docks from North side of Sleeping Dragon bridge
Contest Eligibility Rules
1,000ad Entry Fee? (Decision by Sept 22nd.)
Submit Entries by November 3rd
Eligible Entries list will be posted November 10th
Contest Judging
Contest Completion will be December 8th
Average (actual average) Rating for entries will be calculated for eligible entries
Highest Average rating will be declared the winner
ALL eligible entries will be added to two forum polls:
Best Visuals
Best Story/Lore
Contest Prizes
Overall Winner: 1,000,000ad
Best Visuals: 400,000ad
Best Story/Lore: 400,000ad
Map of Neverwinter
[Thanks to and assuming Zeb's okay with inclusion]
Some "Current" Images of Sleeping Dragon bridge and North Docks area
(just for inspiration- no requirements to match)
I LOVE the idea Eldarth!
I have my RP map New Docks District already pretty advanced, but I'll probably make a different map to make it look like the first steps in its construction.
Also, can we actually leave through the Sleeping Dragon Gate? I don't think we can use Gates as Quest starting points but I might be wrong (I really hope I am, in fact)
I LOVE the idea Eldarth!
I have my RP map New Docks District already pretty advanced, but I'll probably make a different map to make it look like the first steps in its construction.
Also, can we actually leave through the Sleeping Dragon Gate? I don't think we can use Gates as Quest starting points but I might be wrong (I really hope I am, in fact)
Absolutely -- if your first transition is checked "Use Overland Map."
Hmm - I think that allows ANY travel gate though.
I'll have to see if there are any other quest start locations in the vicinity that might work better.
It'd be nice to at least start "near" the Sleeping Dragon bridge.
Ah yeah, if you use the Overworld map as starting point you can use any gate, or even any exit point from any map.
Just a question, in the Neverwinter city map image that has been posted, which one is the sleeping dragon bridge? Does it appear at all?
The weird thing is that means when you start a new character you start at the other side of the sleeping dragon bridge, with would mean we start right next to Castle Neverwinter, I always though we started outswide the Neverwinter city boundaries
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Hmm. Maybe it's time to start the Foundry Community Contest with a theme of the destroyed docks district.
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics
I'll post some screenshots later
: whistles and goes to the dock of Caer Koning to watch the fishes swim:
"Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."
"Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
(Click images for full view)
Here's another view:
Granted, this is no where near the scale of the current 4e map and lore but could very well be another sign that Lord Neverember is in the process of rebuilding the Docks District for the 2nd time, which would place Neverwinter before 1479 DR. Yet we have Rohini in the game, which means we are either in or after 1478 DR.
Alas, with the Tyranny of Dragons active however, this should mean we are in or after 1479 DR.
So... get to work Lord Neverember! You should have had the Docks District done years ago!
Most definitely some Chronomany going on! Perhaps by a latent Wild Mage to boot!
*the old mage, who specializes in chronomancy... being a follower of the incarnation of Mystryl and all.. sniffs the air and nods in agreement with the dragoness*
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I love it when Zeb pops in its like an open D&D encyclopedia! Such interesting reads, makes this game more RPG for me!
Okay all you Dock fanciers, I'm thinking since the "official" foundry contest is in full swing, it's time to resurrect/kick-off the first Community Foundry Contest. Take a look and let me know any feedback/suggestions and I'll post the official un-official notice this Friday evening.
Background Lore
As for the original Docks District, that area of what is now Protector's Enclave simply no longer exists and is instead a sheer cliff down to the sea where the new Docks hug what is left of that area up to the Western Walls of Protector's Enclave. You can see this best when looking out to the West from the Moonstone Mask or its bridge area. The Original Docks area was rebuilt once but was destroyed again. Now it lingers as remnants of floating earthmotes that were once connected by rope bridges (akin to Pirates Skyhold's earthmotes).
The new Docks area now rests outside the City Walls to the West, both South and North of the Riverway. The only part of the old Docks area that remains is anywhere from 75 feet to 150 feet from the Western City Walls, down a steep cliff to the sea. The cliff itself is about half that distance, leaving just enough room for a road and wooden docks jutting into the see, with a few larger building in the areas that are just large enough for them.
Black-market trade does flow in from the Sea and some brave adventurers do still use the old earth-mote access ways.
However, most of these black-market routes are underground routes that come in through access-ways in the side of the western cliff and usually travel through the sewers or other caverns and tunnels made during the Spellplague, Mt. Hotenow eruption, and beyond. Legal trade in the City, mostly flows in from the High Road through the main city Gates and from the Docks District into Protector's Enclave through the South City Gate by the Seven Suns Coster Market.
Contest Theme
While most rebuilding efforts have been focused on the docks on the south side of the river, Lord Neverember wants to begin sending architects and engineers down to the north side docks to beging evaluating and planning their rebuilding efforts. Unfortunately Sgt Knox and the Guards are busy keeping the new Cult of the Dragon cultists in check.
You have been asked to assess the situation down at the northern docks and "evict" anyone not authorized to be there.
Requirements
Contest Eligibility Rules
Contest Judging
Contest Prizes
Map of Neverwinter
[Thanks to and assuming Zeb's okay with inclusion]
Some "Current" Images of Sleeping Dragon bridge and North Docks area
(just for inspiration- no requirements to match)
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics
I have my RP map New Docks District already pretty advanced, but I'll probably make a different map to make it look like the first steps in its construction.
Also, can we actually leave through the Sleeping Dragon Gate? I don't think we can use Gates as Quest starting points but I might be wrong (I really hope I am, in fact)
Absolutely -- if your first transition is checked "Use Overland Map."
Hmm - I think that allows ANY travel gate though.
I'll have to see if there are any other quest start locations in the vicinity that might work better.
It'd be nice to at least start "near" the Sleeping Dragon bridge.
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics
Just a question, in the Neverwinter city map image that has been posted, which one is the sleeping dragon bridge? Does it appear at all?
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics