Shores of Tuern chest

bolt

I realise this will seem like a whinge and it is in a way but I have run that skirmish like 40 or 50 times now and each time all I get is the same loot including a draconic enchant rank 5 as the main item from the additional chest (the one that requires a key). I am wondering whether I am just incredibly unlucky or whether there is a reoccurrence of the issue that occurred in some T2 dungeons where after people looted the chest first time they got the same items each time they run the instance from then on. Is anybody else having this problem?

petestarks

I am unsure if anyone else has seen this happen before or not. I have done the skirmish during skirmish hour as well as random times and in every run for the last ~15 times both chests have had the identification and rank 4 enchantment drop. I get the 1000AD from the main chest on skirmish hour, but other that it has been the same on both normal and epic versions of the chest.

When I first unlocked the skirmish I was able to get the the catalog artifact, dragon gem and some other misc items. Since then it has never been anything more that that junk. My questions is can my loot drops get stuck? Kind of like the chest bug we had in the dungeons? I do not have it unlocked on any other character yet to test if the loot differs for different characters like with the dungeon chest bug. I also can confirm other people in my party have gotten a wide range of loot while I always get the same trash on my wizard...


Or am I just THAT unlucky?

midnightfang93

I've gotten the set helmet and some dragon glyphs today, so its probably just you.

loboguild

Several Glyphs here and Equip as well.

petestarks

Have either of you ever hit a streak of the same drops? Because I once was able to getting varied drops, but that stopped happening after day one. I have never seen anything other than the scroll and rank4 in the keyed chest ever...

midnightfang93

petestarks wrote: »

Have either of you ever hit a streak of the same drops? Because I once was able to getting varied drops, but that stopped happening after day one. I have never seen anything other than the scroll and rank4 in the keyed chest ever...

My drops have been varied most of the time. The items you are describing are the base rewards; anything else you get has a % chance of appearing.

petestarks

Well then maybe I am just like poor guy who took 9 attempts to get a different artifact weapon and was on suicide watch for awhile. This RNG loot table it an utter suckfest for a large group of people I am sure of that

radiotubby

The couple of people who said they got better drop from the chests did not say how many times they attempted. Perhaps the chance in getting anything better than the standard items in the chests is far lower than what you normally get in only 9 attempts.

zshikara

I've gotten nothing except scrolls and rank 5 draconic enchants myself in the skirmish, but since I work during the week I've done maybe 10 runs total since I unlocked it tuesday.

I am not gonna call foul. I'm sure its just RNG and I need to sacrifice a pony or something before I'll get good loot.

petestarks

Sorry I was talking about the artifact chest you unlock with the dragon gem not the skirmish chest in my last post.

I plan to be running some experiments to get a better sample size than my current 15ish suck streak. Stay tuned for my results

suddenlyslow

Same here, at least the last 18 tries I get 66 in coin, one enchantment and one scroll, it is the same for both chest and the same every time (but wasn't at first).

thewolfisloose

35 runs of epic shores for me = 3 helmets, 1 glyph, 0 boon book, 0 belt, 0 artifact, 1 offhand from normal chest. Garakas only dropped infernal offhands.

suddenlyslow

Just verified on all my characters the two chest always drop 66 in coin, one enchantment, one scroll. Every time for quite awhile, although originally it was not this case.

suddenlyslow

I have the chest bug. Everytime it is 66 in coin, 1 scroll, 1 enchantment. Ten times in a row and that is what it will be. Twenty times more and that is still what it will be.

I logged on an alt and the first time I got different loot and then every time since then it was as above.

Tried the normal skirmish and again first time different loot and every time after as above.

The same exact situation with LoL both normal and epic and on all my toons.

Basically if I do the new skirmish or dungeon it is 66 in coins, 1 scroll, 1 enchantment.

innuend01

If you needed anymore confirmation,I now have a full week of both epic and normal SoT runs,roughly 30-40 of them daily.I have never ever EVER seen any bonus reward besides the silver,enchant,id scroll and the 1k ad if it happens to be skirmish time.Oh,and I did open both chests on every single one of them...Do the math,that`s a minimum of 200+ skirmishes,and I can only believe in bad luck for so long.

gupilol

suddenlyslow wrote: »

I have the chest bug. Everytime it is 66 in coin, 1 scroll, 1 enchantment. Ten times in a row and that is what it will be. Twenty times more and that is still what it will be.

I logged on an alt and the first time I got different loot and then every time since then it was as above.

Tried the normal skirmish and again first time different loot and every time after as above.

The same exact situation with LoL both normal and epic and on all my toons.

Basically if I do the new skirmish or dungeon it is 66 in coins, 1 scroll, 1 enchantment.

Is there an actual chest bug? Did the confirm it?
My last 55 runs I had nothing drop from chest except the scroll, the money and the level 4 enchant, Im going crazy...

fentfv

That's the base loot. There's a small percentage of extra stuff dropping. I did probably 8 epic runs in a row, getting scroll + enchant, before I got scroll + enchant + gem (for artifact).

jonkoca

I've had streaks of good stuff, streaks of bad. Just the rng having its evil way with you.

petestarks

With the refine event I have not had the chance to do enough runs for a test. But, once I get my time and crew together if we do 100 runs with the same drop each time I am going to call foul. However, unless someone has legit proof I am going to assume it is my god awful luck with the drop rate tag teaming me until I get my 100ish runs in.

escapados2

Same for me, even not a slightest variation in loot (and same in both chests).

cayapp

I have only run the skimish both epic and non epic and mostly get the standard loot...I have also gotten helms ( plural ) and one grimore.

str8slayer

There is no loot bug, just general bad luck, the way the loot pools are setup in these, you shouldn't be surprised to get NOTHING 10-20 runs in a row.

They stacked the deck extra hard for these by ensuring that the boss loot pools drop copper and/or green/blue unidentified (at least 9/10 for this, too) as well as setting a 9/10 rate for worst possible loot in chest (and then cutting the remaining .9/10 up into 10-20 different items). After that comes the boon books and belts which are most likely set at a .1/10 chance.


Looking at chances like these, it should be no surprise that you've done 100+ runs and gained nothing.

All they gotta do now is change the keys to be taken on use instead of loot and people will abandon these in droves...


Edit: BTW does anybody know if the books from vendor are BOP or not?

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lirithiel

For the first four days after unlocking the skirmish I ran just the epic Shores of Tuern, and got nothing but scrolls and enchantments in both chests. I have won 3 rolls on helms that have dropped from the boss. Since yesterday I switched to normal version, and after not seeing the T3 jewelry drop at all to date, I saw various items from the set drop four times. But as yet I have gotten nothing of note in either chest.

innuend01

str8slayer wrote: »

There is no loot bug, just general bad luck, the way the loot pools are setup in these, you shouldn't be surprised to get NOTHING 10-20 runs in a row.

Exactly.I wouldn`t dream of bugs after 10,20 or even 50 runs.I might start suspecting something after 100,but what do you want me to think after 250+?Actualy,I probably crossed the 300 mark by now.

Also,if at any given time I would have seen in any of those chests something else besides enchants and scrolls,not something pricey,just different-a piece of gear,a glyph,ANYTHING-I would still believe I`m the world`s champion when it comes to bad luck.300x identical loot however,just doesn`t sound right to me.You see my problem?It`s not BAD loot,it`s THE SAME loot,300 times in a row.That`s what makes me scream bug out loud.

str8slayer

There is no chest bug, just loot pools that are heavily stacked against the player. There is a NINETY percent chance each run that you will get silver, enchant and scroll, so when it happens 20 times in a row, you shouldn't be all that surprised.

Additionally the remaining 9 percent pool has all of the gear items and the last 1 percent of the pool contains the belts and boon book.

Looking at it from this perspective, it's clear why the results are so... streaky.

hitmark

str8slayer wrote: »

There is no chest bug, just loot pools that are heavily stacked against the player. There is a NINETY percent chance each run that you will get silver, enchant and scroll, so when it happens 20 times in a row, you shouldn't be all that surprised.

Additionally the remaining 9 percent pool has all of the gear items and the last 1 percent of the pool contains the belts and boon book.

Looking at it from this perspective, it's clear why the results are so... streaky.

Gotta agree with that. My first chest drop outside the basics was a dragon cult main-hand. From the unlocked chest no less. As such i don't think i'll be bothering with the keys much, as i can just as well run the unlocked chest on repeat.

I just wonder why the bleep everyone is bypassing that last group of mobs, because crushing them don't add much on the run duration...

johnperq

Hey.

Another confirmation here.
I get nothing but 60s, 1 Greater Scroll Of Identificatin and a Rank 4 Draconic.


Notes:
- I dont had it when I first ran the skirmish.
There used to be some variation in the results.
Sometimes no scroll, different rank of enchant or even a real drop.

- I know for sure it does not hit everyone. Guildies of mine got
varried drops, including the gem, after I was sure I'm bugged.

- I got struck with the door-not-opening bug between the point I did not had the bug
and i came to realize I had. They could possibly be related.

kattefjaes

It's just really, really clumpy.

I did a hundred or so epic clears with only the R5s and friends, and then got four Draconic offhands in a row. It's a bit odd. I have seen similar things in normal (except that the drop rate of the "of the shore" items from trash seems higher).

It's not nice, but I don't think it's totally broken, like when the DD chests only ever game the same loot over several weeks.

johnperq

kattefjaes wrote: »

It's just really, really clumpy.

I did a hundred or so epic clears with only the R5s and friends, and then got four Draconic offhands in a row. It's a bit odd. I have seen similar things in normal (except that the drop rate of the "of the shore" items from trash seems higher).

It's not nice, but I don't think it's totally broken, like when the DD chests only ever game the same loot over several weeks.

No its exactly like the dd chests used to be broken, except it does not hit everyone.
You got R5 and friends, I got EXACTLY the same loot over and over, over minimum 60 runs.
60 silver, 1 R4 and a greater scroll of indentification.
No R5's, no missing scroll, no difference whatsoever.

I know from buddies that they do have correct loot.
I know my loot used to be correct.
I know its wrong now.

I write code for a livving. Debugging stuff is the bigger part of my life.
I know what smells like bad luck and what smells like a bug.
This smells like a bug.

xgrandz02

- same here over 30x Runs just the same loot scroll, enchant R5, all Epic.