Swash is better for PvE, Swash will give 1014 power = 6% more damage over base at all times in combat (and recovery).
While the profound will give 7.5% but only in invis. The 30% more invis is useless in PvE because all the rotations will break invis after one or two DFs + encounter.
PvE TR will be not in invis at least half the time because lashing/wr/smoke/dazing break invis.
The link shows maximum hit and not overall DPS and for maximum 7.5% is higher but that not what you want.. you want overall higher DPS.
Show ACT runs with each one or ACT of average damage over many hits (more than 200) and you can conclude something, screenshots of lashing is not...
It was discussed many times, you can see Kaelecs guide with graphs, several threads with spreadsheets and more about crit vs power, bottom line that even with perfect vorpal, purple blade, and racial bonus and class bonuses to crit severity like deadly momentum and critical overrun,
for 5500 power, 2500 crit is optimal.
only for 10500 power, 3000 crit is optimal
and for 3600 crit you will need 17k power to have optimal DPS... not something you can achieve..
Power is the base of PvE TR, not crit. Crit has one of the worst DRs in the game and easly overshadowed by first ArP and then Power even for high critical severity.
If you want more detailed explanation write your power, crit, crit severity, and what vorpal you have if any (and if you MI Executioner - with critical overrun) and i will screen shot the numbers appropriate for you.
Never saw a stealth based rotation out-dps dps rotation with lashing,dazing,blitz (/wr), unless there is a huge gear difference especially in power and weapon enchants.
Explained already in this very thread on page 5-6
while killing boss that rotation is useless
u need to use wr
and while killing boss stealth armor is bettert
and swash btw doesnt have armor pen
Swash is better for PvE, Swash will give 1014 power = 6% more damage over base at all times in combat (and recovery).
It was discussed many times, you can see Kaelecs guide with graphs, several threads with spreadsheets and more about crit vs power, bottom line that even with perfect vorpal, purple blade, and racial bonus and class bonuses to crit severity like deadly momentum and critical overrun,
for 5500 power, 2500 crit is optimal.
only for 10500 power, 3000 crit is optimal
and for 3600 crit you will need 17k power to have optimal DPS... not something you can achieve..
Power is the base of PvE TR, not crit. Crit has one of the worst DRs in the game and easly overshadowed by first ArP and then Power even for high critical severity.
If you want more detailed explanation write your power, crit, crit severity, and what vorpal you have if any (and if you MI Executioner - with critical overrun) and i will screen shot the numbers appropriate for you.
I can't change that 463 crit for power just becaue I want that, I could change it to recovery if I switch to swash but then I would have an useless amount of recovery. And at least anyone plays his own way(I don't even use LB for example), I like how to play my TR and I don't need anyone telling me what to change, ty anyway
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while killing boss that rotation is useless
u need to use wr
and while killing boss stealth armor is better
And i wrote WR..... (you can see it in the qutoe 3 line from bottom) and WR breaks invis, to keept it stacked you will have to break your invis bonus... so what use it will have.. only thing you can do is use SS to get invis back.. thats good but not enough.
You can have ArP from Darks and artifacts, Lantern and GWF class already add 600, And profound have deflect and tenacity that are not much use for PvE..
And AP gain (recovery) does help to spam more Whirlwind.
I can't change that 463 crit for power just becaue I want that, I could change it to recovery if I switch to swash but then I would have an useless amount of recovery. And at least anyone plays his own way(I don't even use LB for example), I like how to play my TR and I don't need anyone telling me what to change, ty anyway
Only reffered to the 2500 is not enough crit, from many calculations and tests for many it is enough to get maximum dps (or at least in the 2800-3000 vicinity bacause of gear limitations and it is hard to get it lower and into power).
Did not mean to tell you what to do, you can either take my advice, research for your self or totaly ignore , your choice.
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while killing boss that rotation is useless
u need to use wr
and while killing boss stealth armor is bettert
and swash btw doesnt have armor pen
I can't change that 463 crit for power just becaue I want that, I could change it to recovery if I switch to swash but then I would have an useless amount of recovery. And at least anyone plays his own way(I don't even use LB for example), I like how to play my TR and I don't need anyone telling me what to change, ty anyway
And i wrote WR..... (you can see it in the qutoe 3 line from bottom) and WR breaks invis, to keept it stacked you will have to break your invis bonus... so what use it will have.. only thing you can do is use SS to get invis back.. thats good but not enough.
You can have ArP from Darks and artifacts, Lantern and GWF class already add 600, And profound have deflect and tenacity that are not much use for PvE..
And AP gain (recovery) does help to spam more Whirlwind.
Only reffered to the 2500 is not enough crit, from many calculations and tests for many it is enough to get maximum dps (or at least in the 2800-3000 vicinity bacause of gear limitations and it is hard to get it lower and into power).
Did not mean to tell you what to do, you can either take my advice, research for your self or totaly ignore , your choice.