Ouch, poor guy. He should join NW_Legit_Community, if he's prepared to play fairly- they will take all classes as long as you behave in a reasonable manner, and can read/write to a minimal standard.
Make a tr and try to gear it before saying join legit(with out guild members and dont use ad) because when you join legit you get kicked from the party no one wants a tr because if the nerf. I need my mc gear but I just stripped my gems off it and put it on a different toon. I would delete it but I still hope for tr's to be good again(other then pvp). I have been here since beta and seen the whole destruction of tr's from the stealth runs in dd events to dps and stealth builds. Now pve on tr's sucks and if you dont cater to pvp you have a toon you wont play period. I for one have done runs in mc where I make a party and pass on the loot just to get my dark fey to buy my gear but that doesnt work either. Know what your talking about before posting
5x4 people thats 20 rank 5 enchants.
to get off hand you need to do 10 to 30 runs average if u kill first boss.
thats 300 to 900k ad to ge an off hand which was suposed to be free.
but if u count time he would spent on waiting on legit channel, lfg channel ,getting kicked,people leaving coz tr in the group,
its worth every ad.
have to say ad well spent
Poor guy...That's how sad rogues are in PvE. Laughable pve dps underdogs.
He should try legit channel as guys aboves proposed. Still, last time I was in there I had a bad luck with party of jerks >.>
It does happen, I was unlucky enough to get a party with some EoA guy who tried to wallclimb over the whole instance at one point, but I left that particular group. You get a much better class of team mate on average, though.
Make a tr and try to gear it before saying join legit(with out guild members and dont use ad) because when you join legit you get kicked from the party no one wants a tr [snip some of the rant]
Know what your talking about before posting
This is simply not true. My TR has never had an issue, nor have undergeared guildie TRs that I have dragged into legit groups. Folks were fine about it. Maybe it was related to the way that you present yourself, or interact with groups?
Make a tr and try to gear it before saying join legit(with out guild members and dont use ad) because when you join legit you get kicked from the party no one wants a tr because if the nerf. I need my mc gear but I just stripped my gems off it and put it on a different toon. I would delete it but I still hope for tr's to be good again(other then pvp). I have been here since beta and seen the whole destruction of tr's from the stealth runs in dd events to dps and stealth builds. Now pve on tr's sucks and if you dont cater to pvp you have a toon you wont play period. I for one have done runs in mc where I make a party and pass on the loot just to get my dark fey to buy my gear but that doesnt work either. Know what your talking about before posting
I'm really interested to know who from the legit channel kicked you for being a TR. And was it the reason, or perhaps the greed/need issue common with new joiners. Naming is not allowed on the forums, but PM me if you'd like..
About the original TR, can say that this is perhaps the only time i regret not having zone/lfg/trade active, could have helped..
rlrobrMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2014
This problem happens not only with TRs, but with all classes other than CW, GWF and *maybe* DC.
For instance, I have a 17K P. Vorpal HR that had a very hard time trying to get accepted into VT: I had to form my own groups 99% of the time, even though my DPS is higher than most CWs and GWFs, specially against bosses.
I'd bet 1000 AD that if you had accepted the TR's offer, that he would then just add his friend, close the group, kick everyone else and solo the dungeon himself to keep the lootz.
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silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
edited July 2014
Out of hundreds of runs in DD's and PVP, Ive had maybe 3 off instances. 1. where a guy kept needing and was kicked, even after warnings, then his buddy got mad and flamed the channel and 2. Got into a weird group of people from one guild, who kept on talking in game party chat, through the whole fight, even while dying, wouldnt stop to fight, just you know type away.. it was wierd, but funny at the same time honestly and 3. A entire below 12k party run couldnt hack end boss at ToS, that maybe the only failures Ive expereinced and 2, we did beat Karrundux that run, just took like 4 times longer.. if it wasnt so funny I wouldve quit, but man it was quite funny to experience.
So this is what I say, I HAVE never seen anyone kicked from any of my groups because of either gear, competence , class, the only times Ive seen issues ever was needing stuff, then refusing to stop.
If the TR is pve spec, then I am happy to do pve with him.
But if TR is pvp spec (especially perma-stealth), then I am not happy to help him gear up so that, later, he can kill me in pvp.
I don't really see offhand runs discriminate against classes other than not wanting multiple TRs/HRs/DCs/GFs etc, but they will definitely ask for a minimum GS. At most if your performance is inadequate, you'll get kicked.
Note, having multiple same class will lower the chance of rolling offhand.
I'm thinking he may not have met their asking GS or due to some other reason perhaps, such as group already having TR(s).
I have a PVE TR and I have NEVER EVER been kicked from a party made using the legit channel. I think it's a great channel, and I wish the LFG channel was more like that.
Also I've never seen anyone being kicked from a party formed in legit either, unless someone got dc'ed and didn't come back in 15 mins or so.
I don't really see offhand runs discriminate against classes other than not wanting multiple TRs/HRs/DCs/GFs etc, but they will definitely ask for a minimum GS. At most if your performance is inadequate, you'll get kicked.
Note, having multiple same class will lower the chance of rolling offhand.
I'm thinking he may not have met their asking GS or due to some other reason perhaps, such as group already having TR(s).
I have a PVE TR and I have NEVER EVER been kicked from a party made using the legit channel. I think it's a great channel, and I wish the LFG channel was more like that.
Also I've never seen anyone being kicked from a party formed in legit either, unless someone got dc'ed and didn't come back in 15 mins or so.
whats your problem then go play enjoy dont spam here if u have np
If you don't agree with me, that doesn't mean I'm spamming.
The legit channel is a very nice option for PVE TRs, and everyone should consider joining it if they are having trouble getting into parties in teh LFG channel.
If you don't agree with me, that doesn't mean I'm spamming.
The legit channel is a very nice option for PVE TRs, and everyone should consider joining it if they are having trouble getting into parties in teh LFG channel.
I was just in an Epic DV few days ago with a "BETA Team" ... 3TR a GWF and CW. Two of whom were awesome rogues from legit. It was fun. Our GWF had a superhero moment where he flew off the edge like a boss but we love him so we forgive him. The CW was proving the OP and solo'd a few steps after the first boss, we all just chilled on the fire with BBQ sporting our 4 Throne of the Lion! Did the whole run to the end, but w/o a DC it was hopeless to begin with.
Just making a point that a /Legit party isn't only about winning. These are incredibly fun people you'd want on your friends list.
There were some comments on a TR soloing MC. This is EXTREMELY unlikely. Content released since sharandar has consistently been aimed at shutting down a TR's ability to solo. Cn has been modified to make it harder, tho honestly it's mostly just weeded out the TR's who are mediocre at permastealthing in the first place. In MC and also VT you often have to clear out multiple objectives or enemies before you can proceed. The end fights are just plain impossible to solo. The first boss in MC resets to full health if you fail to hit him within 10 seconds. Furthermore catapults target you 3 times about ever 15 seconds regardless of stealth. The first boss alone in MC is comparable to hirmnir or the abolithic overseer, mostly from a frustration factor more than difficulty. King malabog ignores stealth and will kill a TR in 2-3hits. I would rate him as equally hard to solo as the CN dragon with a SIGNIFICANTLY higher chance of you just getting pulped but he has a lot less HP so if your successful you can pull it off in 15-20 minutes. I would guess that less than 1% of the TR population could actually pull it off and can't think of any reason it would be profitable to do so. MC 2/3 solo your looking at an hour and a half if everything goes without a hitch. In comparison SPC or CN 3/4 can be done in 30-40 minutes and is much much less stressful. Not that i solo any dungeons any more there really isn't much point in doing so.
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and he needs tr off hand .
Well to start with 5 rank 5s is just like 2 kessel runs =P..
Tell him to join legit.
to get off hand you need to do 10 to 30 runs average if u kill first boss.
thats 300 to 900k ad to ge an off hand which was suposed to be free.
but if u count time he would spent on waiting on legit channel, lfg channel ,getting kicked,people leaving coz tr in the group,
its worth every ad.
have to say ad well spent
He should try legit channel as guys aboves proposed. Still, last time I was in there I had a bad luck with party of jerks >.>
WTB Class Reroll please
It does happen, I was unlucky enough to get a party with some EoA guy who tried to wallclimb over the whole instance at one point, but I left that particular group. You get a much better class of team mate on average, though.
This is simply not true. My TR has never had an issue, nor have undergeared guildie TRs that I have dragged into legit groups. Folks were fine about it. Maybe it was related to the way that you present yourself, or interact with groups?
Give me that guy's handle and I swear I'll run MC with him. Even if we're both TR's.
I'm really interested to know who from the legit channel kicked you for being a TR. And was it the reason, or perhaps the greed/need issue common with new joiners. Naming is not allowed on the forums, but PM me if you'd like..
About the original TR, can say that this is perhaps the only time i regret not having zone/lfg/trade active, could have helped..
For instance, I have a 17K P. Vorpal HR that had a very hard time trying to get accepted into VT: I had to form my own groups 99% of the time, even though my DPS is higher than most CWs and GWFs, specially against bosses.
I'd bet 1000 AD that if you had accepted the TR's offer, that he would then just add his friend, close the group, kick everyone else and solo the dungeon himself to keep the lootz.
So this is what I say, I HAVE never seen anyone kicked from any of my groups because of either gear, competence , class, the only times Ive seen issues ever was needing stuff, then refusing to stop.
But if TR is pvp spec (especially perma-stealth), then I am not happy to help him gear up so that, later, he can kill me in pvp.
Note, having multiple same class will lower the chance of rolling offhand.
I'm thinking he may not have met their asking GS or due to some other reason perhaps, such as group already having TR(s).
Also I've never seen anyone being kicked from a party formed in legit either, unless someone got dc'ed and didn't come back in 15 mins or so.
put in lfg channel tr 15gs lf mc 2/3 or 3/3
u have no idea what you are talking abouth
whats your problem then go play enjoy dont spam here if u have np
The legit channel is a very nice option for PVE TRs, and everyone should consider joining it if they are having trouble getting into parties in teh LFG channel.
legit channel is fine but they dont run 2/3 mc
Just making a point that a /Legit party isn't only about winning. These are incredibly fun people you'd want on your friends list.
How so ?
I think most will prefer 3/3, but I'm quite sure some do 2/3, as with 1/2 VT.