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trique76
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We are about 7 weeks or so from Module 4 release and so far we have no info about it regarding new class or paragons or anything besides the fact that it is related to a major event from wotc. I know thats Cryptic cannot release anything about it by their own, but its about time to say something more concret about it, isnt?
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A) WotC releases more information on, "The Tyranny of Dragons," itself.
C) All of the above.
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Thats simple not true. We knew about the hunter ranger and the new paragons paths weeks before the launch of the module that added it and thats what I am talking about here. Yes, I am pretty sure they are tied by contract and cannot release anything until WOTC says so, but c'mon... 7 weeks!? Thats too soon and we are all expecting different things from this module. I really want to know if we will have any new class (paladin!).
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Yeah I know. And based on what i heard (rumours of course), the class-release rate is 1/year and the druid should be the next one. So if that is true paladin will come in 2 years.
And speaking about time, 7 weeks IS too soon. We are about 1 month and a half from the release. And I am basing my claming totally on the previous modules where we knew great part of its content since they were announced. The content of this one on the other hand, being related to a major event outside the "Neverwinter" comercial universe, is being kept secret until now. And it was me who said the module is attached to a new event.
I speak for myself here, I dont want to know any spoilers about this major plot, but only about the game content like new races or classes. Something - let me say it again - that should have been released weeks ago if this module wasnt attached to any other thing.
The rest still up-and-coming!
- 3 new battlegrounds, 2 which are not domination (5v5, 10v10) and 1 10v10 domination.
- Overhaul on unpopular encounters, class features and feat lines.
- Dungeon orientated boons and progress
- no new zone but instead we get 3 new T3 dungeons complete with loot tables and sets between the lengths of valindra's tower to castle never (learnt from previous mistakes)
- Look into some class balancing issues in both PvP and Pve as mentioned before.
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
Now this could start with mod 4 and end likely in mod 5 or mod 6. Unless they are going to try and cram the entire story line in one module.
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I wonder if the 5-headed dragon is stronger than Draco. It probably will be. I'm crossing my fingers that the eventual dungeon (If we get one) won't be an add fest but more tactical like some T1's (IE: Throne of Idris)
The Wizards (DND Next) Side of it all releases about......3-4 Weeks before Module 4, so most likely they are FORBIDDEN from unveiling more, since it would allow people to deduct part of the storyline, and thus skimp out of purchase of the Sourcebooks/Starter Kits.
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It would actually be the BEST time to introduce paladins, since Bahamut, the father of dragons and patron of good dragons, is also the patron god of paladins. A good opportunity skipped most likely.
I very much want good dragons involved with the story. I want metallic wyrmling dragon companions. I want large sized metallic dragon mounts.
I don't think we've seen or even heard of a metallic Dragon in 1 year of content, which is a shame. They are just as numerious and influential as their evil bretheren. Many silver and steel dragons spend most of their lives in humanoid form living among the lesser races. I would not be surprised if several longstanding npcs in PE are actually dragons.
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You might have noticed that their class schedule somehow slipped compared to modules. HR perfectly fitted with the Sharandar theme, but it was released with Dread Ring, that, in turn, was well fitting with a Warlock class, still unreleased. IwD, if you consider the setting, should have released with a Barbarian class, that was probably never in the plans and will probably never be (the current GWF has some Barbarian traits, like 2h weapons, extreme agility, roar/shout, "rage" etc. thus a real Barbarian would be probably quite redundant).
So don't expect any sync between modules and classes :P
Also, the GF has the whole Tactics Line, which seems quite Paladin-ey to me, by design, coordinating the attack, pointing out weak spots for allies....
Basically, the Paladin/GF version of the old Barbarian/GWF argument.
Plus what ryugasirius wrote, they are completely out of whack with the theme of modules anyway at this point, so I wouldn't even be surprised if they released a necromancer class bundled with a module that has fighting for the Doomguides (under Khelemvor's banner) against undead hordes.
Not bad points.
However, GWF is much closer to barbarian than GF is to paladin. Heck GWF cant even wear heavy armour, like all fighters are supposed to. IMO GWF is barbarian in everything but name.
GF has no spellcasting, no auras, no smite evil, no heals of any kind like lay on hands. There are huge differences.
In addition Paladins are very core the the Forgotten realms setting (more so than any other official setting). Leaving them out is a major blunder for a game trying to capitalize on the richness of the IP.
Barbarians are proficient in Cloth, Leather and Hide, so technically, the GWF is already 'Overgeared' by that argument.
Paladins, at least in BG2, where I had the first contact ever with the IP, had one kit where you gave up Lay on Hands and your Spellcasting: The Inquisitor. In DnD4, this kit seems to have gotten the axe, but the alternate kits both seem to give up channeling divinity and casting spells.
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They missed the boat, a Black Ice Corrupted White Dragon would have fit Icewind Dale.
Actually that is a pretty BAD point regarding paladins. This is often pointed by people new to game or D&D as a whole (full of misconceptions): they think that paladins are either warriors with shield/defense-oriented OR warriors with spells so the GF is a "paladin" for them and its said and done. This is wrong, they are a class on their own, with their own mystique, mechanics and ethos. Saying something like this is the same thing that saying "we dont need the druid because we have the cleric". This will surely sound absurd for most of the people because most of them play as clerics and druids more often than paladins so they KNOW how different both classes are. I discussed this very point here:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?646411-The-quot-New-Class(es)-quot-Feedback-Thread!/page20
The GWF is not a barbarian either. I always sugest that you all who share this... bizarre... notion did some readings about paladins and how they play. 4e (although NO is loosely based on it) wise here we go: http://dnd4.wikia.com/wiki/Paladin
I agree that warlock seems to be the next class. They delayed it and it was datamined since launched so it is almost a safe bet just like dragonborn race. Totally agree with the OP who said this was the perfect time to release the paladin tho, but yes, Crypict also missed some great timing with other classes as well.
Uh... I am not asking for mor info because it would/wouldnt affect my gameplay... I am asking as a costumer/fan/player... And a devoted one since I am playing this since beta and bought both Hero and Guardian packs, that shows how much I like and believe in this game.
On the other hand, you said something I havent considered: that no new class will be released. Actually this is quite possible because we didnt hear anything about new classes since the mod was announced, different from the Hunter Ranger. This is quite possible. And frustrating too.
I'd like to confirm this info I digged sometime ago here in the forums that we will get 1 class per year... Is this true?
I am relatively certain that there have been no official statements beyond a possible generic, "we'd like to".
We get stuff when we get stuff. Cryptic/PWE/WotC get to decide when they're going to tell us what we'll be getting and when.
If they don't promise much far in advance, then they have no worries about not being able to deliver.
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