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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The only single drawback of using WR is you're reducing the targets' defense and not simply increasing your own damage...so the CW/GWF benefits more from it than you do. In a cooperative party, that's a good thing. When you're competing for DPS numbers, you're practically helping them do more than your damage. In PvE I would use any 3 between PoB/DS/LB/Blitz

    Oh geez, how could someone be so selfish as to think this? Well, the AoE classes neither see nor appreciate the debuff and just recognizes the damage as all their doing wherein WR only gives them more cause to criticize.

    As a TR you already do less DPS than a CW so why bother helping them do more damage?
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I use Wicked Reminder in a party, but not solo.

    I've gotten pretty good at slapping in a WR between every DF rotation, and smacking them right in the middle of a Sing.

    But hurray for having a good guild who recognizes what the party rogue brings to the table for everyone else.
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  • crusherbeastcrusherbeast Member Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    rustlord wrote: »
    The only single drawback of using WR is you're reducing the targets' defense and not simply increasing your own damage...so the CW/GWF benefits more from it than you do. In a cooperative party, that's a good thing. When you're competing for DPS numbers, you're practically helping them do more than your damage. In PvE I would use any 3 between PoB/DS/LB/Blitz

    Oh geez, how could someone be so selfish as to think this? Well, the AoE classes neither see nor appreciate the debuff and just recognizes the damage as all their doing wherein WR only gives them more cause to criticize.

    As a TR you already do less DPS than a CW so why bother helping them do more damage?

    If you play as TR don't bring GWF to party, only CW. You can tank same or better than gwf u don't need them. That's how you will open eyes to those who don't spend much time to think what is needed in party.
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  • malphaeousmalphaeous Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 88
    edited June 2014
    @ Bozbam it appears you are right, ive had this build since right after launch, it hasn't changed much. infact I didnt know that AA was broken. how so and for how long?
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  • wimpazoidwimpazoid Member Posts: 504 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Is it broken? I'm not sure myself, but I would think it's meaningless to take Action Advantage without Cunning Stalker, and if you're not dealing Combat Advantage damage constantly.

    My advice is, focusing on synergy feats with the above, ie. Swift Footwork, Twilight Adept, and Improved Cunning Streak, while may not look it, can actually improve the DPS and survivability of a PVE combat TR instead of taking the feats that boost damage directly.
  • bozebambozebam Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Since i made some research for my builds, some months ago, i read that in a few thread.
    That feat exist for each classes and its broken for all of all. ( and i play DC too, i tested that too ).

    Maybe i shouldnt say "broken" :
    it works but its not a flat +1-5% gain but a multiplicative gain of your own AP. So, if you dont got AP bonus, it give nothing more !

    Anyway, the AP gain for TR is so low that i wont bother to use that feat and play with the TR's strength ( ie stealth and damage feat ).
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