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The whole purpose of the Account Bank was to be able to hold valuable epic assets to share with each character rather than send them thru the mail. BUT, the new account slots wont hold anything other than ordinary items...nothing from our profession stockpiles...what a waste.
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I agree with the OP, the only things i share between characters are profession items which can't be placed there.
The only good thing about it is the shared gold option which should have been there from the start.
Incidentally, they can't be placed in personal or guild banks either. Possibly it would be worth requesting as an added feature for the shared bank space, as placing expensive assets in the mail is scary.
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Its a free-to-play game with a marketplace revenue structure. How are you being nickle and dimed? The money you or anybody else spends is not only optional, but it sustains the future development of the game itself.
I don't get the entitlement that some people adapt in a subscription free model these days. Go pay $15/month and you can demand as much content as you want.. until those games too go exclusively marketplace for revenue which is inevitable.
It's actually a bit cheaper than what I was expecting, since STO's account bank has been 1000zen for 10 slots for awhile now.
edit: I was also expecting it to be more than basic bank space because "Account Bank" tends to be one of the more expensive storage options in most f2p MMOs
For me, it'll be useful for transferring gold between characters.
Actually, there is only one copy of everything. Players are all playing with the same "stored copy" and everything is distributed with a database UUID - which basically says whether a player has access to that item or not. So "storage" really isn't an issue at all, technically speaking. It's all just a question of permissions.
It's not free2play out of the kindness of their hearts. It was a business decision and it doesn't give them a free "oh but we're free2play" card. People have the right to criticise as they see fit. And in this case, the new module shows that they still have no idea how to price things properly. That applies to a lesser extent to the shared bank since it still has some use so some people will buy them, although I'm not sure I can justify more than the 8 paid slots and I'm not sure the majority who probably have 1 or 2 toons can either. But also applies to the new boosters that are outrageously overpriced and the upgraded pick.
Your first sentence is spot-on. Everything after that is 100% opinion from your perspective. You say they have "no idea how to price things" and I'm willing to bet they most certainly do (see, they have this nifty stuff they call DATA that you don't even have access to). Even if something is 'outrageously overpriced", it is only that to you and others who agree with you. That does not, by a long shot, make it a 'fact'.
I personally am not too interested in all this Back Ice stuff (same thing as what they have in STO - which I find boring, myself). But if I were, I'd be seriously eying these boosters. and 1000z is steep, I agree, but not 'outrageously overpriced'.
It's a simple question of "value" and that term is subjective by nature. I found enough "value" in the Dusk Unicorn mount to spent that 4000z ($40.00 (!)) to get one - and of my 7 characters: only one is using it. So please keep your perspectives in-mind when trashing anything (Neverwinter or not) because what you find to be "outrageously" over-priced, distasteful, offensive, positive, joyous and so on, may NOT be for the person standing next to you.
-shrugs-
Just use the mail...
It's not about the space, but the need to share certain expensive items across your account.
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I communal spot to dump all of my runestones and enchantments and a spot store my purple assets.
Neither works. You can not put assets into the shared bank and when I tried enchantments the character could no longer see them when enchanting an item if they were in the shared bank.
I assume you can put coalescent, pearls, turquoise, lockboxes & keys but even so, most of the functionality I wanted is not there.
The added disappointment of not being able to transfer Bars or AD through the bank and my favorite toon getting the **** nurfed out of it really make this a lose lose expansion.
Far from useless though
Now the upgraded pick is $10 for just a faster resource gathering rate. It's insane for such a simple tool. They'd sell a lot more for a lot less, but maybe a few will still buy it. Now the 1500 zen booster is an insane amount of money on it's own, but what makes it worse is the fact that you can also only get uncommon stuff from it, which from the way boosters and other such rewards work, is most likely to happen. Not only that but the assets are actually pretty useless apart from the fact that multiple gauntlets are required to refine more than once at a time. There really is no justification for it and you'd really need more money than sense to even contemplate it. You say they have sales figures so they know what they're doing but that's just not the case. They've had to bring down many ridiculously high prices so that more people actually contemplated actually buying stuff and they still have ridiculous ad costs for mount training tokens and the ad merchants in the PE market place. I really don't understand why people would even support such things and partly wish I never did. Though going around for so long on a 50% mount would've been very painful.
So yeah, useless.
If I get an account bound ward that I'm not instantly using I'll just put it in my bank until someone else want's to use them. I can also take out how many I need. If I used mail, I'd need to take them all out, remail myself which also gets hidden with my other mail if I keep it there and if I don't then I have potentially multiple toons with marks/wards that I need to log on each to get all the wards I want. It's a little extra convenience but yeah, mailing does it's job and is free. With 6 toons I wanted at east 8 extra slots though just to be tidier.
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I don't mean to argue with you and your position is a fair one. Though I quoted you in my comment, I think most of my diatribe was more directed more the OP and others (and partially to you immediately)... but I fully understand why you may have taken my comments personally, and for that I apologize.
It's okay to feel some prices are overdone. I'm just pointing out that when you (a general "you", meaning everyone) feel something is overpriced, that is your opinion and perspective. As I've said before: it's simply a question of value. if something is 'overpriced' in your eyes, then the value is not up to par to justify that price for you.
However, that does not mean it's overpriced for everyone. I look through the Zen Market and feel a lot of that stuff is overpriced, too. But other stuff is fair (steep, but fair), value-wise. And I know that's my own perspective. And recognizing that it is strictly my own perspective, I won't ever call anything "<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>", "waste of money", or "useless". It might be to me, but to you it may be very much the opposite.
Case-in-point: I'm seriously considering purchasing extra shared bank slots, possibly two. But I also have 12 characters to feed. Hence, the term "useless" is a misnomer at best, and outright slight toward other players at worst.
No problem, was just expressing my opinion which everyone should be allowed to do as long as they aren't complete and utter ****holes about it :P. The way I see it is that the zen store is made up of totally overpriced items but still have some sort of use or make the game nicer to play (such as mounts) so a lot of people are like holy <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> noty, but you'll still get people who want a better experience and so will still fork out. I would say a lot of gamers would probably see it as an overprice market too and either avoid it altogether or spend a limited amount. Of course you still get some that spend insane amounts too. I also disagree that the shared bank space isn't entirely useless, I have uses myself and would like to use it more but the cost doesn't really justify invest more into it personally, however at least we have 8 free slots and gold storage. The boosters however are both not very useful and really really expensive. They're also making it artificially more useful by not including free tools like every other profession which is kind of shady imo.
I've had some fun in this game overall with being in a nice guild. But I really hope I decide to never play another cryptic game. On the plus side, the fact that you can get some nice stuff for free/ad is nice, but when imo that is becoming less the case unless you have tonnes of leadership toons it seems kind of a bummer.
They currently hold all the lockboxes I bought on the AH during the event, the shanda and dread tokens you get out of the LB's, the LB keys, planar idols and a few other items I use a few at a time but want to use on whatever toon needs them without a lot of mail maneuvers.
For that it was worth it.
When they inevitably put them on sale I'll prolly buy 8 more.
^ this.
my bank got expanded to 8 more slots and i can use it to transfer things between characters. thanks, PWE. :]
The only thing I do not like is the steep cost to expand it. I feel it should be the same price as the Many Coins Bank Slots, which you get 16 for 600 Zen. The shared bank slots cost 700 for 8. I feel it should be 300 ZEN for 8 slots, or at most 350 Zen.
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What class is your favourite toon, and how has it been nerfed? I agree that it is disappointing not to be able to transfer Tarmalune Trade Bars.
Just my 2 cents