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izatarizatar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
edited April 2014 in The Foundry
I haven't seen a featured foundry in a week now, although it is marked on the calendar. When will we see this renewed?:confused:
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  • sylvialynnsylvialynn Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It's been more then a week. Maybe Cryptic decided to stop pretending they care about the foundry.
  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    sylvialynn wrote: »
    It's been more then a week. Maybe Cryptic decided to stop pretending they care about the foundry.

    I believe Sominator was more or less in charge of doing this and he has left Cryptic/PWE and there is no replacement for him (they have introduced a PWE social manager, but he's focused on PWE as a whole, not specifically Neverwinter). So until a new replacement is found (if) - I don't expect to see any new "Featured" Foundry quests.
  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    At STO our community manager is responsible for this, and it happens quite regularly. The only time it usually doesn't happen is if there are major problems with the Foundry (like it's down for a month or so).

    The spotlight is about the only thing we get these days, but it does happen frequently. If they are ignoring it here, well... they're probably ignoring the only thing that will get you very many plays.

    So, ask your community manager why it's not being done. (Is it still storm shade?)
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  • orangefireeorangefiree Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,148 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I looked back at the previous ones and we actually seem to be following roughly the same pattern as the last ones According to the dates anyways it said there was like a week between them previously as well. Though I agree I would like to see them hurry up a bit with it.
    Neverwinter players are stubborn things....until you strip them down to bone. (Cursed players, my flowers, MINE!) Oh how I plotted their demise.
  • izatarizatar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I looked back at the previous ones and we actually seem to be following roughly the same pattern as the last ones According to the dates anyways it said there was like a week between them previously as well. Though I agree I would like to see them hurry up a bit with it.

    The difference is that there are no featured quests now. There have usually been quests up for feature.
  • orangefireeorangefiree Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,148 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    izatar wrote: »
    The difference is that there are no featured quests now. There have usually been quests up for feature.

    Taking a look at the list again, you are right. I misread the dates or something and thought there was a gap between them. Now I am noticing there isn't, not sure what I was seeing before.
    Neverwinter players are stubborn things....until you strip them down to bone. (Cursed players, my flowers, MINE!) Oh how I plotted their demise.
  • apocrs1980apocrs1980 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    ...shows how much is cared about the Foundry.
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  • antonkyleantonkyle Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I believe Sominator was more or less in charge of doing this and he has left Cryptic/PWE and there is no replacement for him (they have introduced a PWE social manager, but he's focused on PWE as a whole, not specifically Neverwinter). So until a new replacement is found (if) - I don't expect to see any new "Featured" Foundry quests.

    That is bad news. Sominator always seemed like the only person that was actually interested in the foundry. I guess that truly is the end of any interest I had in Neverwinter. I doubt he will be replaced. PWE are a joke. All there games are very poor and not looked after. I have no doubt that Neverwinter will go down the same route.

    I feel sorry for the guys at Cryptic.
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    Sominator was the main person in charge of foundry spotlights and features.

    Remember guys, we had two community managers since last January or so even though Som was in the limelight a lot. Pinpointerror is working his rear end off but he is overworked and underpaid at the moment, haha. He has really been focussing on pushing a lot of bug reports and threads through to the developers as well as been getting a constant stream of things to relay as far as feedback and general questions.

    It is not a matter of The Foundry not being cared about. In fact since I do see how much Pinpointerror is doing it actually is quite irritating to see those claims and I am resisting the urge to remove that nonsense. -angry face!-

    For at least the mean time if you want to get spotlighted you can submit your foundry work here following the instructions provided.


    And before you try to blame PWE for not hiring another CM, they are! Feel free to apply if you live or are willing to live in the San Francisco area.
  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    If PWE and Cryptic really cared, they'd back up community efforts more. I do not blame PinPointerror at all, and kudos to his work.

    Look at STO. While their devs have also abandoned Foundry, they regularly run Spotlights and do things like Foundry weekends, and heavily promote Foundry work.

    NW Foundry is more feature-rich and has way more promise... and it gets much less support, which is a shame.
    Campaign: The Fenwick Cycle NWS-DKR9GB7KH

    Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?

    Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?

    Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    it actually is quite irritating to see those claims and I am resisting the urge to remove that nonsense. -angry face!-

    After years of being a foundry author whose only real encouragement comes from a community manager, while programmers and artists pretty much ignore the thing, I am resisting the urge to scream nonsense about the future of the toolset, even if there was active support from a community manager.

    At least at STO, our community managers care about doing something more than moderating threads of negativity. Then again, this side of the fence has something called a foundry team that actually communicates with foundry authors... at least they used to do so. I've seen them post over here. It was interesting to learn their names for the first time.

    That is, if they're still even working on this game's foundry.
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  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    zahinder wrote: »

    Look at STO. While their devs have also abandoned Foundry, they regularly run Spotlights and do things like Foundry weekends, and heavily promote Foundry work.

    NW Foundry is more feature-rich and has way more promise... and it gets much less support, which is a shame.

    Our devs are also policing the Foundry exploits and very slowly fixing some critical bugs. I'm assuming that all of you get bug fixes all the time, since you have a foundry team, allegedly.
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  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited March 2014
  • antonkyleantonkyle Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    edited March 2014

    Pinpointerror is working his rear end off but he is overworked and underpaid at the moment, haha.

    It is not a matter of The Foundry not being cared about. In fact since I do see how much Pinpointerror is doing it actually is quite irritating to see those claims and I am resisting the urge to remove that nonsense. -angry face!-

    Overworked and underpaid? Does that not back up what I said about PWE? Just so you know anything I say is not aimed at individual people within either cryptic or PWE. Just what I see as a money grabbing company that puts profit over providing a quality game. I have seen nothing that would make me think otherwise.

    Delete what you like, but maybe we the authors should be included in the loop of knowledge that you seem to have, that way we may appreciate what is being done more and put an end our complaining.

    Almost every post I read that is negative about the foundry is usually based around the lack of physical evidence of any improvement.
    Last time I logged on I noticed that there is now a hide played quests function and a next page on each foundry tab. Fair play, it is a small step in the right direction. Usually when something is done well it gets as much praise here as could be expected.
  • orangefireeorangefiree Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,148 Arc User
    edited March 2014

    I've never played STO so for all I know, those marks could be completely worthless, but I'm going to assume they're not and say that event looks pretty nice. I could comment further if I understood what they were talking about.
    Neverwinter players are stubborn things....until you strip them down to bone. (Cursed players, my flowers, MINE!) Oh how I plotted their demise.
  • sandukutupusandukutupu Member Posts: 2,285 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    And before you try to blame PWE for not hiring another CM, they are! Feel free to apply if you live or are willing to live in the San Francisco area.

    Not that anyone in my family is looking for work (knock wood) I am wondering why your company still does that "hire by city"? My hubby lives here in Michigan and runs contracts all over the place via his network. So there is no travel expense, I am not an IT widow at night, no need to relocate, and best of all both parties make tons of money. He mainly contracts programming for firmware. I don't know all the details but what I do understand is since he is a contractor the companies he works for don't pay out taxes, insurance, etc.. It just seems like all these tech companies are still working in the stone age.

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  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I've never played STO so for all I know, those marks could be completely worthless, but I'm going to assume they're not and say that event looks pretty nice. I could comment further if I understood what they were talking about.

    Marks are essentially the endgame 'stuff' currency. You have several currencies that are used to advance your reputation or buy cool gear in one of several groups. I THINK it's like Sharandar and Feywild campaign advancement, but I pretty much quit playing core NW stuff months ago so I'm not sure.

    It's very useful. It's not the 'best' way to get marks, I'm sure, but it's pretty nice.

    (There are also Fleet Marks which might also be given out by the event -- they are used to unlock projects in a Fleet, which doesn't really have an analogue in NW. Essentially, you unlock cool stuff your guild has access to)
    Campaign: The Fenwick Cycle NWS-DKR9GB7KH

    Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?

    Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?

    Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I've never played STO so for all I know, those marks could be completely worthless, but I'm going to assume they're not and say that event looks pretty nice. I could comment further if I understood what they were talking about.

    STO is about filling buckets with marks. We need different kinds of marks to building our starbases and stuff, as well as get shinies. The marks are not worthless. Of course, playing Foundry missions may still not be the most efficient way to earn all the stuff we need to fill buckets.
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  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I've never played STO so for all I know, those marks could be completely worthless, but I'm going to assume they're not and say that event looks pretty nice. I could comment further if I understood what they were talking about.

    Think "Boons", so it's kind of like STO "marks" = NW "Boons". But Marks can be used solo-based or group-based efforts. Either way, my point was that over at STO they are still ginning-up Foundry Play and actively encouraging players to play them.
  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Think "Boons", so it's kind of like STO "marks" = NW "Boons". But Marks can be used solo-based or group-based efforts. Either way, my point was that over at STO they are still ginning-up Foundry Play and actively encouraging players to play them.

    Yeah, but they're not seemingly doing much with the UI so that players can find our missions. We have a pretty static list of the top 50, a hot list full of farms, and a new list that nobody plays. So, they're actively encouraging a weekend event, but I think I'd trade it for a programmer with a weekend to work on the UI.
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  • izatarizatar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    For at least the mean time if you want to get spotlighted you can submit your foundry work here following the instructions provided.

    That link is to a request for guest blogs. I don't really see how it is related to foundry spotlight? :confused:
  • orangefireeorangefiree Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,148 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    izatar wrote: »
    That link is to a request for guest blogs. I don't really see how it is related to foundry spotlight? :confused:

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused. I thought to submit my quest, I had to click the "Submit to Cryptic" button while in the foundry editor for the quest I am trying to submit.
    Neverwinter players are stubborn things....until you strip them down to bone. (Cursed players, my flowers, MINE!) Oh how I plotted their demise.
  • apocrs1980apocrs1980 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Sominator was the main person in charge of foundry spotlights and features.

    Remember guys, we had two community managers since last January or so even though Som was in the limelight a lot. Pinpointerror is working his rear end off but he is overworked and underpaid at the moment, haha. He has really been focussing on pushing a lot of bug reports and threads through to the developers as well as been getting a constant stream of things to relay as far as feedback and general questions.

    It is not a matter of The Foundry not being cared about. In fact since I do see how much Pinpointerror is doing it actually is quite irritating to see those claims and I am resisting the urge to remove that nonsense. -angry face!-

    For at least the mean time if you want to get spotlighted you can submit your foundry work here following the instructions provided.


    And before you try to blame PWE for not hiring another CM, they are! Feel free to apply if you live or are willing to live in the San Francisco area.

    It's not that we are trying to down play what pinpointerror is doing or even blaming him Ambi, keep in mind most of us (myself included) are unaware of what his role in all of this. All we see is non-communication (actually you have been the only one to really pop on and say something.) So thanks for informing us by the way :), now we know, and knowing is half the battle...getting a Foundry update, that's the other half.
    I think most of the community here would have been quite satisfied if there were notes, any notes, anything, listed in the module 3 patch notes but when they completely leave the foundry out of it, then there is no spotlight happening, the general impression is that no one cares and that is where you see dedicated authors become frustrated and hang up thier authoring hats.
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    Ravenloft
    Look for@Apocrs1980 or visit the main page here or Ravenloft here
  • sandukutupusandukutupu Member Posts: 2,285 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I don't know if this would help or not but I would like to see just one feature added to the Foundry search. Genre is something that would make it easier for the player to find what they are looking for assuming the author used it correctly. Heavy Action, Comedy, Drama, Suspense, Mystery, etc.. That in my opinion would make the system somewhat easier to use.

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  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    antonkyle wrote: »
    Overworked and underpaid? Does that not back up what I said about PWE?
    That was a joke. At my last job any time we were really busy we would say that we were overworked and underpaid. It was not said with any amount of sincerity.

    As for it proving your point, as I said in my final line they are hiring another Community Manager. They are not really being cheap if they are actively looking for somebody to fill Sominator's position. ;)
    I am wondering why your company still does that "hire by city"?

    First of all let me clarify: I do not work for Perfect World Entertainment.
    I am a volunteer with a day job and moderate the forums on my personal time. :)

    As for why they still hire by city, most places still do. There are many companies which offer work from home days but typically even if the work is contracted out they still require you to show up to the physical office most days. That is the normal practice even now. I actually recently had a family member move halfway across the country and I promise you that if there were jobs that didn't require moving to a commuter distance he would have taken it. ;)
    izatar wrote: »
    That link is to a request for guest blogs. I don't really see how it is related to foundry spotlight? :confused:

    Yes it is.
    Pinpointerror told us that this can be used to get your work spotlighted/featured.

    I'll ask for further information when I can but at the very least you can be sure that if you supply a quick find code and a short blog about the work it will act as a request to be spotlighted/featured. The blog part might not even be necessary but I can't say for sure at the moment.
    apocrs1980 wrote: »
    I think most of the community here would have been quite satisfied if there were notes, any notes, anything, listed in the module 3 patch notes but when they completely leave the foundry out of it, then there is no spotlight happening, the general impression is that no one cares and that is where you see dedicated authors become frustrated and hang up thier authoring hats.

    My completely unofficial speculation is that what they want to do for the foundry is to big to get it out in a timely manner. The last official statement about the Foundry, granted that was a few months ago, was that they plan on making true trees instead of linear quest paths.

    Also I had asked about The Foundry in one of the Adventure Hours when Terramak was on the show and he said that the Foundry will probably be getting some major focus in Module 4 or 5.
  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Ambi: Well, to be clear, most of us don't think PWE is cheap solely because they don't have another customer manager lined up already. There's a long list of reasons, and this just fits into the overall pattern.

    More pertinently, the lack of resources put into Foundry development is a much larger problem.

    But, again, in STO, we have a similar lack of developer attention, but at least there's a LOT of community support.
    Campaign: The Fenwick Cycle NWS-DKR9GB7KH

    Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?

    Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?

    Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014


    My completely unofficial speculation is that what they want to do for the foundry is to big to get it out in a timely manner.

    Your unofficial speculation is at odds with the demonstrated history of the toolset and its devs. Look at the record, please, before offering reactionary defenses based on assumptions and hopes.
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  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited March 2014
    BadbotElite in NeverwinterJul 26 2013 at 7:57pm
    We are currently investigating branching story and non story elements. We want to be able to create quests with a little more choice and exploration. Currently you cant send a player to a map that is not in the story. We want to allow quests to be made that have maps a player can find and explore. These 2 improvements are high on our list.

    Source: Raptr Q&A

    Two major changes to how the actual foundry functions. If you imagine it as a house it isn't like adding a room it is redoing the foundation. Major changes take time and that was stated to be their main focus.
  • mrgiggles651mrgiggles651 Member Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    kirksplat wrote: »
    Your unofficial speculation is at odds with the demonstrated history of the toolset and its devs. Look at the record, please, before offering reactionary defenses based on assumptions and hopes.
    Just need to look at the bugs Eldarth has labelled as "intern and five minutes", such as spelling errors and descriptions

    I watched that podcast you posted. It was a wonder you didn't phaser the STO Foundry guy when he said basically 'you'll get nothing' and 'maybe I can get some devs to come in over their weekends for a few things'. Clearly you are a well trained Federation officer.
    I wasted five million AD promoting the Foundry.
  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I wasn't one of the interviewers of that specific podcast, but we are well-trained to know that we should expect very little. At this point, we're hoping that maybe we can convince a dev from the art team to come in on a weekend and maybe give us a few assets.

    There are also a few things supposedly being ported from NW, like the ability to favorite an author. Nothing big, like the 3d nudger. I don't really want it, to be honest. Last time I messed with it here, it was a bug-filled mess of non-functionality. It would probably break more than it would fix.

    So, yeah, many of us at the STO community have accepted the fact that nobody is left in charge of it. We're lucky if they "tag" new stuff added to game so we can use it in the foundry. And, we are in a perpetual state of Beta. Our tool actually says "Beta" after 3 years. Whoever is on your foundry team doesn't seem to give a **** about STO's foundry.

    It was a predictable affair. But, it is disturbing to see all of it repeat here for NW. If you guys hope to have a NW Foundry community in 2 years, I'd really encourage you to become admins or authors for something like Tavern UGC.
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