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[Guide] Crit-Sent PvP GWF (Mod 2) - By Diamond Krass Mustang
rapssodya
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Welcome to my first ever guide!
A little about myself ...
I started playing NWO more than half a year ago as a humble TR seeking glory in the PvP arena. Realizing that I preferred to go all out on the front line screaming like a maniac, I switched to a DPS GF. There was a problem here ... I could slaughter most of my enemies in one rotation, however, I was as resilient as a wet pancake. Then I rolled a GWF.
The purpose of this guide is to impart my experience as a PvP'er that has had a blast playing as GWF - through the good times and the bad.
By the way, I'm not a number cruncher (too lazy), I'm just a guy recalling what I learned from my substantial time as a PvP GWF. My stat and power choices are based on a combination of my own trial and error and the experience of fellow players. I'd like to give a shout out to friends, guildies, ex-guildies and the many helpful threads/guides on this forum.
Let's begin!
Aim:
My aim in building a GWF sentinel was to use high critical chance and severity as the primary source of damage output. This type of GWF is perfect for team play as you will have access to fantastic crowd control, dps, tankiness and speed; all of which are vital aspects of taking and holding nodes.
Character Race:
As the build utilizes great survivability and burst damage, your class should somewhat reflect these choices. The best three classes for this build are ...
Attribute roll:
Con and Dex should be high as possible, making sure Str is reasonably high also. Con is fantastic and is the most valuable stat for this build, granting higher HP and damage in the form of resistance ignored. Dexterity provides deflect chance, a stat perfect for survivability and one of my favorite stats. Strength just allows you to make the most of feats such as Desciple of Strength and Deep Gash.
Paragon Path:
Iron Vanguard
Feats:
I think the feat choices are pretty self-explanatory, but I will cover the notable ones.
-Deep gash is an excellent feat because it actually does not do damage based solely on power. To my knowledge, It takes into account damage dealt and your Str stat. I certainly do more damage the higher my crits are and so should you.
-Powerful Challenge gives 15% more dmg Vs marked targets. Whats not to like? Weave Threatening Rush between your Encounters and At-Wills for maximum damage output.
Powers/Class Features:
When picking my powers/class features, I all I wanted access to were the following:
At-Will's:
-Sure Strike
-Threatening Rush
Encounters:
-Frontline Surge
-Takedown
-Roar
-Restoring Strike
-Indomitable Battle Strike
Class Features:
-Bravery
-Trample the Fallen
-Weapon Master
Daily's:
-Avalanche of Steel
-Indomitable Strength
-Savage Advance
These skills are what I believe to be the best for this build. Currently I'm using weapon master (too good to ever slot out) and Trample the Fallen (15% more dmg on targets under cc is better than 10% more deflect I reckon). The other choices were based on PvE viability; such as Wicked Strike (great AoE dps on mobs) and Restoring Strike (great single target dps which increases survivability). For PvP I always have Frontline Surge, Takedown and Indomitable Battle Strike slotted for my encounters along with sure strike and Threatening rush for my At-will's. My usual rotation is: TR + TD + TR + FLS + TR + IBS. This rotation depends on the situation but is the ideal one for most.
And here's my Character Sheet, showing gear choices and stats:
Enchants:
I use Darks in all offensive slots and Radiants in all defensive slots, along with Vorpal in the weapon and Soulforged in the armor. I have found no better substitute for Vorpal for offensive power, however Negation rather than Soulforged seems reasonable viable if that suits your play-style; rather than a second life on low HP you gain serious damage resistance (+25%) for 7 seconds per minute on average. The utility slots were easy to fill. Dark enchants are 100% the way to go for PvP as they grant movement speed.
End Result:
This build possesses high armor pen in order to deal with rival tanks as well as life steal, in anticipation of the coming module 3, which is rumored to bring great disadvantage to stacking regen. My crit chance is 33%, resist is 43% (before Sentinel's Aegis adds 20% to defence!) and deflect is at 25%. I would highly recommend you try to get close to these numbers whilst having 36-38k HP.
So there you have it! That's how I roll, but don't take it as the be all-and end-all build. Experiment as I have, and you never know what new builds you might come up with!
I will try to reply to all responses and questions about this build and how I play it, however, I can't promise I'll answer every post so please don't take offense. Lastly, keep this thread civil and related on this type of GWF build. No QQ's or flaming please
Enjoy!
Coming soon ...
GWF PvP Eliminator Guide: A tutorial on how to take any class out
A little about myself ...
I started playing NWO more than half a year ago as a humble TR seeking glory in the PvP arena. Realizing that I preferred to go all out on the front line screaming like a maniac, I switched to a DPS GF. There was a problem here ... I could slaughter most of my enemies in one rotation, however, I was as resilient as a wet pancake. Then I rolled a GWF.
The purpose of this guide is to impart my experience as a PvP'er that has had a blast playing as GWF - through the good times and the bad.
By the way, I'm not a number cruncher (too lazy), I'm just a guy recalling what I learned from my substantial time as a PvP GWF. My stat and power choices are based on a combination of my own trial and error and the experience of fellow players. I'd like to give a shout out to friends, guildies, ex-guildies and the many helpful threads/guides on this forum.
Let's begin!
Aim:
My aim in building a GWF sentinel was to use high critical chance and severity as the primary source of damage output. This type of GWF is perfect for team play as you will have access to fantastic crowd control, dps, tankiness and speed; all of which are vital aspects of taking and holding nodes.
Character Race:
As the build utilizes great survivability and burst damage, your class should somewhat reflect these choices. The best three classes for this build are ...
- Human (gotta love the three extra feat points)
- Half-Ork (5% extra crit severity, 2 points extra for Con/Str)
- Halfling (3% more deflect chance, 10% CC resist chance
Attribute roll:
Con and Dex should be high as possible, making sure Str is reasonably high also. Con is fantastic and is the most valuable stat for this build, granting higher HP and damage in the form of resistance ignored. Dexterity provides deflect chance, a stat perfect for survivability and one of my favorite stats. Strength just allows you to make the most of feats such as Desciple of Strength and Deep Gash.
Paragon Path:
Iron Vanguard
Feats:
I think the feat choices are pretty self-explanatory, but I will cover the notable ones.
-Deep gash is an excellent feat because it actually does not do damage based solely on power. To my knowledge, It takes into account damage dealt and your Str stat. I certainly do more damage the higher my crits are and so should you.
-Powerful Challenge gives 15% more dmg Vs marked targets. Whats not to like? Weave Threatening Rush between your Encounters and At-Wills for maximum damage output.
Powers/Class Features:
When picking my powers/class features, I all I wanted access to were the following:
At-Will's:
-Sure Strike
-Threatening Rush
Encounters:
-Frontline Surge
-Takedown
-Roar
-Restoring Strike
-Indomitable Battle Strike
Class Features:
-Bravery
-Trample the Fallen
-Weapon Master
Daily's:
-Avalanche of Steel
-Indomitable Strength
-Savage Advance
These skills are what I believe to be the best for this build. Currently I'm using weapon master (too good to ever slot out) and Trample the Fallen (15% more dmg on targets under cc is better than 10% more deflect I reckon). The other choices were based on PvE viability; such as Wicked Strike (great AoE dps on mobs) and Restoring Strike (great single target dps which increases survivability). For PvP I always have Frontline Surge, Takedown and Indomitable Battle Strike slotted for my encounters along with sure strike and Threatening rush for my At-will's. My usual rotation is: TR + TD + TR + FLS + TR + IBS. This rotation depends on the situation but is the ideal one for most.
And here's my Character Sheet, showing gear choices and stats:
Enchants:
I use Darks in all offensive slots and Radiants in all defensive slots, along with Vorpal in the weapon and Soulforged in the armor. I have found no better substitute for Vorpal for offensive power, however Negation rather than Soulforged seems reasonable viable if that suits your play-style; rather than a second life on low HP you gain serious damage resistance (+25%) for 7 seconds per minute on average. The utility slots were easy to fill. Dark enchants are 100% the way to go for PvP as they grant movement speed.
End Result:
This build possesses high armor pen in order to deal with rival tanks as well as life steal, in anticipation of the coming module 3, which is rumored to bring great disadvantage to stacking regen. My crit chance is 33%, resist is 43% (before Sentinel's Aegis adds 20% to defence!) and deflect is at 25%. I would highly recommend you try to get close to these numbers whilst having 36-38k HP.
So there you have it! That's how I roll, but don't take it as the be all-and end-all build. Experiment as I have, and you never know what new builds you might come up with!
I will try to reply to all responses and questions about this build and how I play it, however, I can't promise I'll answer every post so please don't take offense. Lastly, keep this thread civil and related on this type of GWF build. No QQ's or flaming please
Enjoy!Coming soon ...
GWF PvP Eliminator Guide: A tutorial on how to take any class out
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Krass Mustang - GF
Diamond Krass Mustang - GWF
Shadow Krass Mustang - TR
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Cheers mate
My only variation I run is that I use 2pc tier 2 valiant gear with 2pc titans and some more offensive accessories (crit/arpen belt and ring with defensive slots). I push my ArPen higher and having a slightly higher con gets me to near 40%. Overkill somehwat? Yes, but is golden vs other GWF and GFs.
edit: one other thing Krass. You forgot the damage reduction bonus from armor spec and sentinel's aegis doesn't show on the character sheet. Your DR is more likely around 55-56%.
Daria - Dwarf Sentinel GWF (mistaken for Halfling a lot)
Karia (aka "The Pug") - Human Combat HR
Kayd - Human Conqueror GF - Retired
UPDATE:
Edited a few things concerning the build making it more informative. Cheers for the input fellahs.
I do sacrifice lifesteal and Deflect for my build, but I still get people telling me they can't believe how hard to kill I am. I will swap out survival gear and powers situationally based my role, but it is rarely necessary.
Daria - Dwarf Sentinel GWF (mistaken for Halfling a lot)
Karia (aka "The Pug") - Human Combat HR
Kayd - Human Conqueror GF - Retired
I would personally just swap the rings around for more HP, or GG Set 2 piece gives +HP, 36k is a tad bit low specially in premades,, BUT none the less looks great! GJ Krass.
- Your Besttttttttestt Friend , Steamroller.
Daria - Dwarf Sentinel GWF (mistaken for Halfling a lot)
Karia (aka "The Pug") - Human Combat HR
Kayd - Human Conqueror GF - Retired
Just realized that Sentinel's Aegis only affects defence, meaning a 600 point increase at 3k defence. Armour class also accounts for 17% resistance at 34 AC. Still, every little helps!
Steam brothah! We're gonna have to have a chat about new builds for the coming update
Glad the guide is well recieved so far anyways
So Daria with a 150 invoke buff has 2939 defense = 32.1% mitigation * 1.35 (Armor Spec + Sentinel's Aegis) = 43.335%. 34 AC actually gives 12% base (first 10 do not count) * 1.15 = 13.8%. 43.335+13.8 = 57.135% actual mitigation, despite a character screen that reads 44.1%.
Daria - Dwarf Sentinel GWF (mistaken for Halfling a lot)
Karia (aka "The Pug") - Human Combat HR
Kayd - Human Conqueror GF - Retired
Okay....i guess cryptic live up to their name. Their tooltips are VERY misleading. Good news for us though
Thanks for sharing.
How fortunate! Just msg me or any BD member in game if you're interested in joining.
@hida
Those are the same, staple sets I used to use. As you can see in the guide, I sacrificed the HP from scrappers, however, I gained a substantial amount of offense at the cost of little defense. Give it a go, you might like it!
P.S: How about Slam? I found it to be very very helpful in certain situations. It's also AoE snare for Trample to work better and it keeps running rogues close to your AoE stuns (Roar or Surge). To be honest, I don't remember the last time that I used any other daily in PvP.
Slam is actually a viable choice if you know when to pop.it. if you have trample the fallen slotted, using slam gives the 15% dmg bonus as it is a control effect (slow).
-Destroyer ^.^
Did you try 1v1ing with this set up against Aliz and Nelo's GWF?
PvP GWF - BizzyBedBug
PvE GF (salvaged)
PvE TR (salvaged)
GWF PvP/CW PvE @ http://www.twitch.tv/bizzyplusplus/
@ Bizzy. 1v1'd Aliz and many other top-level GWF's. The build works
@ esteena. Thanks! I'll be sure to check yours out too.
@copycat. I'll answer all that I can:
1) I assume you mean halfling? If so, the 3% deflect chance is highly valuable. It means you do not have to worry about acquiring as much deflect on your gear, meaning you can work on more useful stats rather than the amount of deflect it would take to get that 3% chance.
2) I know Steamroller as a PvP'er. What you describe seems like he is talking about a PvE build. For PvE, power is usually more valued than in PvP and a pure PvE build will aim to hit the 24% resistance ignored in order to reduce mob and boss resistances to 0%. It would be impractical to stack over 7k power for PvP and I can assure you that there is no competitive PvP build with that much power. You simply would not be able to attain the other stats needed for the build such as regen, defense, deflect ect.
3) I do not see any value in briartwine for a GWF but I haven't experimented with it yet. I see it being useful for a GF deflect build possibly, but thats a different story. The best enchant for me atm is soulforged. You just cant beat an extra life during a match.
4)I am sure you can find a more in-depth answer to this question elsewhere on the forums. It doesn't really relate to this guide as I dont use them. You are correct on the first point however. Not sure about terror though.
5) The first 3 stats are easily obtainable. Combined with 70% deflect chance and 75% deflect severity is impossible though unless you maybe use pots. Something I haven't tried as it would not be viable for PvP. With those kinds of stats the build would be very unbalanced.
6) My guild IS currently recruiting, but we only accept experienced PvP/PvE'ers who are well geared I'm afraid. Thanks for your interest though and I wish you luck finding a guild.
That is for PvE Copycat, not for PvP.
This Setup is roughly the same as every other Top End PvP Sent GWF, 1v1 doesnt mean much, It just depends on who Crits and who doesnt really.
What truly Defines an Awesome Sent Is Teamwork, CC Calls, Map Awareness, Knowledge of Countering Any Class, and Survivability based on footwork and Strategy.
+ to that. 1v1 with top end gwfs is a roll of a dice lol. well, mostly.