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madamesarcasm
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So, I haven't played many MMORPGS, and I'm afraid it's painfully obvious to anyone I PvP with xO
Granted, I have PvPed as a CW mostly, and I think it's the squishiest class. Still, can anyone give me tips on how to improve in PvP and maybe just combat in general? Do I need better gear or a better class?
Thanks for helping a newb out. Cheers!
Granted, I have PvPed as a CW mostly, and I think it's the squishiest class. Still, can anyone give me tips on how to improve in PvP and maybe just combat in general? Do I need better gear or a better class?
Thanks for helping a newb out. Cheers!
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http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?492261-A-Beginners-Guide-to-Successful-PvP-by-Alysin-Chains
1. Dont rez people in pvp nor ask to be rezzed while combat is goin on. They just die again pretty quickly and the opposing team gets kill points once again.
2. Hold 2 bases at first middle and your end... Do not go for the 3rd right away unless you have a lead.
3. Gotta have good gear, and have a supply of pvp pots.
4. Aim for opponents that are hurt or near death...wipe them out and move onto the next.
5. As a mage dodge alot as you are immune to damage while dodging. As a mage I would stack crit. armor pen and defense.
I have all classes on my account and found that for me HR and GWF are the best.
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1) Always rez your party members. With how much regen is availble, and the BCRS, they can be back to full health in a few seconds.
2) Rush mid and the opponents point, always. Continue to back cap to keep their team split.
Other advice isn't bad.
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With this powers very often I have the highest number of kills, specially on Gauntlgrym.
I wouldn't bother with CoI even as a thaum, it has a very long animation that will put you in peril often. Use RoE, fast anim, better damage.
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BTW over 50% (easily) of the time my inventory gains the blue at the end of the match (#1 in points)....simply because I am not cheap when it comes to gear and I learn how to play the class the best I can. Note this is with my hunter from levels 20 and up to 50 now... I'm sure I will not have this happen when I am 60 simply because I cannot afford 500 dollars to gear my toon.
I gauge how an individual will contribute to the team fight at hand... sometimes I rez completely changes a game... other times if the player is the type who stands and facetanks a lashing blade and an icy knife... I have no sympathy for your death and I feel using my divinity to heal them when I could be healing another team member who has the ability to live longer would be a waste
Depending on a situation I will ask for a rez... when they clear all the enemies and are standing there not rezzing me or if they are in a 4 v 1 and one person doesn't stop to rez me, I note that and treat them the same way
Rezzing is a matter of judgment in different situations so I don't think there should be one specific action you ahve to take each time
Kill points are granted only when the target cannot be rezzed (whether it's due to lack of help, due to revive sickness, or due to a timely kick) or chooses to release. If you willfully refuse to rez a team member who could have reasonably been saved, you're just guaranteeing that the opposition gets credit for that kill.
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Still to some it may be a good idea to rez people in combat, to me it is a pet peeve and I hardly ever do it unless the area is clear and hes not spamming "Help!" 6 times in a row. To each thier own though. I'd rather be making kills than rezzing teammates.
LOL you are so funny! But yes you are right bad players deserve no attention.
Like if you find yourself facing a full premade or you constantly getting 1 v 1 and die then you should consider instant quit unless the match has already began for a long time.
Harsh it may sound, but when 9 gear/skill people are in the PVP arena you don't wanna be the 10th, it has no benefit for you to improve since you would just get instantpop especially as CW, also you destroy the winning chance of your team since it is 4v5.
Now we come to something more particle:
You need to build certain amount of defensive stat: HP/Defense/Deflect/Regen.
Especially when you are new to CW don't play a glass cannon you do not have the gear or the skill to make it fly. You might get lucky once in a while have a bunch of big crit and kill someone but that is about it, the rest of the time you will just be a mobile free kill.
And then the hard part is to find a playstyle that suits you and effective in PVP. Which is something you would need to learn on your own you can't be a copycat and make it fly. CW is unlike other class, it does require really solid skill/gear and experience to be valuable in PVP.
If you want something more get up and go. TR and GWF would be your choice, GWF hands down the best. My gwf has only 10 k gs, 1 green artifact and no enchant what so ever. But I can go head to head with much more geared people... Yeah I might still die depending on class and player skill but I sure as hack make them work for it on a GWF... It is just too strong..
winning a match has nothing to do with how many kills you have, how many assists you have or your own personal score. it has everything to do with capping nodes. there are different beginning strategies but the one thing to remember is there is strength in numbers. some premades will have all five head to the center node. some will send four to the center node and have a tanky class fall back to the home node. premades usually use some kind of voice chat because communication can be key in a close match. but most importantly, the key is to cap as many nodes as you can for the longest duration to win.
but know that the enemy team may use other strategies to counter yours so it's important to remember:
if you're behind score-wise, try to fight on-node whenever possible. strategically, if you're ahead you can try to intercept your opponent in between nodes or get them to fight off-node. if you're behind, this tactic will just work against you.
and sometimes your opponent has better gear, more experience, more skill and they'll easily be able to control all the nodes. if players start dropping from your party, the game is over. you can ask the other team for 1v1s or to trade caps but understand that some of the other players turn off zone chat or they may not speak your language. or they may be griefers and don't care.
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People do this all the time. It might look like you are going to lose. It might look like a tough fight. Whatever makes you want to ditch the game, just don't do it.
You will learn more and earn more by staying in to the death.
I see it again and again when playing. It is better to talk to the other team in /Zone or /say. 1v1 them. Ask them to let you cap a base so you can earn some glory. Try to figure out what they are doing that makes them so difficult to beat, then try to implement these things into your game.
There are so many things you can learn by playing until the end. The only thing you get from quitting early is the honour of joing the hallowed ranks of my ignore list
Also, playing PVP while you level up is a really great way to learn. It is a lot more balanced (less difference in gear) and you get a better understanding of how your skills relate to PVP.
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I use chill strike on tab because it is high damage, can hit multiple targets, and applies chill which helps keep enemies immobilized. Freeze or choke enemies first before repelling them so they can't deflect or dodge it and you will be able to keep them away from you. And almost always be holding down the button on ray of frost to keep them slowed or frozen so your teamates can roll in and slaughter them while they are immobilized, and slot storm spell, it will greatly increase your dps.
1. Grab campfire buff every time you respawn after dying (which you will - don't let it upset you)
2. Don't get caught mounted when you don't have to be, because if you get dismounted by taking damage, you'll also get knocked prone.
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1.) You're the squishiest class in the game, change your mentality from being a front line soldier to a sniper. (IE you see one or more players don't go in first. Let your teammates soak up the damage while you dish yours out from afar. Pillar sniping is a good way of doing this.)
2.) Learn the timings on your skills - You can keep someone proned or in the air until they're dead if you learn how to combo your abilities correctly. Also this deals with cooldowns, it'll take some getting used to but start keeping track of how long your cooldowns on abilities are.
3.) Know your surroundings - Always be on the lookout for incoming players. It allows you to form a strategy instead of being taken by surprise. (Even if your strategy is to run away)
4.) Understand your limitations - I don't mean gear, I mean your skill and class limitations. Some people you won't be able to beat at first, heck it might take you 1000 times going against a certain player before you win 1. Take the chance and try and learn something new each and every time.
5.) Experiment! - You're new to pvp, don't be afraid to try new abilities, new timings, new everything. That's the only way you're going to get better. Don't be afraid to try something even if it seems ridiculous at the time. 1v1's are great for this.