all u wanted to know about the new refine sysytem !!!

oriyellow8

k guys an gales i was in preview server and gut u all the things u wanted to know about the new system of refine shards and enchantments. if u dont understand some words as catalyst and refine points dont worry its just translate to ad worth so just take the ad some and that all.
we begin with shards - how to make a perfect one. so in the new system u wont need 4 of each kind and than progress to another 4 of each kind and so on. u actually need only 2 shards of each kind : 2 lesser shards to make regular ...2 regular to make greater and 2 greater to make perfect. the system goes that u take one of this shards infuse in it some refine points and than it is ready to be upgraded to the next lvl . so u need 1 mature shards with infused point in it and one regular ( not infused) to make the next lvl of shard.
no worry if u didnt understand i show u now the numbers and u see:
( to be clear - cryptic say u can find all this catalyst and refine stuff in all around the world maps in chests , profession pods ,and epic boss drops , yet for now it is not known the statistic of drops - how much its easy to find them - and so all this ad value is it buying this stuff from vendor - so this ad sum may be changed during game as u find catalyst ..or not. but just for u to know the amount of infuse point u need for higher lvl shards is so high - i rarely think u can find so much in ur game..and u probably have to buy them in ah...hope im wrong { for the sake of easy math the point r rounded up or down little})

the ad value u see is the amount of refine points and marks of potency (minor,lesser,regular and greater) from buying this from vendor in enclave. u can also find it in maps and events in game .. yet for now no one knows what is drop rate and how easy or not it is to find them. this ad sum is buying all assets needed to refine enchantments and shards from vendor. their is no ad fee to refine shards and enchantments.

(this is for making shards from scratch - the bold numbers what u need)

making of shards
to make

lesser shard = 4 shards + 1 ward

regular shard -

210k ad=(35k points) + 100k =(greater mark) + 2 * (lesser shard )+ ward === 310k(assets) + 8 shards + 3 wards


greater shard -

630k =(almost 105k points) + 200k =( greater mark *2) + 2 * (regular shard) + ward


830k( assets) + 630k ( 310k * 2 regular shard) +ward === 1450000 ad( assets) + 16 shards + 7 wards

perfect shards -

1860000 =( almost 310k point) + 200k ( 2* greater mark ) + 2 * (greater shard) + ward ===


206000(assets)+ 1450000 * 2( 2* greater shard) + ward === 4960000 ad(assets) +32 shards + 15 wards


their is no ad fee to refine shards and enchantments. the ad sum is buying all assets needed to refine from vendor in enclave = refine points and mark of potency. this sum may varied if u find this assets in maps zone.


for easier reference that u want be distracted by numbers i have made another table which i give u the sum if u already have some shards for example u have 2 lesser and just want to know how much to input to upgrade it to regular one.

u have 2 lesser //// need more 310k ad( refine points and mark potency ) + ward - to make regular shard

u have 2 regular shards /// need more 830k ad ( refine points and mark potency ) + ward - to make greater shard

u have 2 greater shards /// need more 2060000 ad (refine points and mark potency)+ ward - to make perfect shard





making enchantments

making enchantments is little different in the beginning but from lvl7 enchantment to 10 is exactly same amount as making shards)
u have same percentage chance like today for each lvl ...the difference is the green wards that u used until now - will be gone if u use them in any case - if fusing was successful and if fusing was unsuccessful ..dont ask me why they changed it.

from lvl 1 to lvl 6 enchantments u actually need only money ( refine point and catalyst). i did not made money equivalent only from lvl 5 and up . from lvl 1 to make lv 5 u need something like 8k ad in assets .

lvl 1 to 2 = 20 points + 25 (mark) + 95% chance
lvl 2 to 3 = 60 points + 25*2 (mark) +90% chance
lvl 3 to4 = 180 point + 500 ad (mark) + 85% chance
lvl 4 to 5= 810 points + 1000ad (2* 500 mark) +

their is no ad fee to refine shards and enchantments. the ad sum is buying all assets needed to refine from vendor in enclave = refine points and mark of potency. this sum may varied if u find this assets in maps zone.


lvl 5 to 6

18 k ad (almost 3000 points) + 25k ad(mark of potency) + 40% ( using coal or green ward) = 43k ad in assets

lvl 6 to 7
78k ad (almost 13k points) + 50k (2 * mark potency) + 30% = 128k ad assets


from this lvl u need use another regular enchantment like the shards = one infused enchantment + one not infused

lvl 7 to 8

210k ad (35k points) +100k (greater mark) + 2 * lvl 7 enchantments + 25 % = 310k ad assets + 2 * lvl 7 enchantments + 25 %


lvl 8 to 9

630k ad ( almost 105k points) + 200k ad ( 2* mark) + 2 * lvl8 enchant +20% = 830k ad assets+ 2 * lvl 8 enchantment + 20%

lvl 9 to 10

1860000 ad(almost 310k points) + 200k ad(2 * mark) + 2 * lvl9 enchant + 10 % = 2060000 ad assets + 2 * lvl 9 enchantments + 10%


k hope all math is good and good luck for all.

arontimes

We already knew this weeks ago. Plagiarism is bad, m'kay?

angrysprite

Possibly good info. But I stopped reading the moment you started using alphabet characters in place of actual words.

There is lazy and there is *lazy*. If you're too lazy to write it correctly, then I suppose I'm too lazy to read it. ;-)

melodywhr

here's a bit of constructive criticism to the OP.

your terminology is confusing because it's not the usual terminology people use. what you're calling shards, i'm assuming are weapon and armor enchants. yes, they start as shards, but when you combine them, they become weapon and armor enchants. you're also using the old term 'catalysts' but this has been changed to 'reagents'. 'catalysts' are no longer any part of this process.

the process you illustrate is based on the purchase of reagents from the wondrous bazaar, however i doubt this is going to be the process for everyone.

another confusing aspect is the AD value you're adding to RP = refining points. where is this value coming from?

not to mention all of this has already been posted in spreadsheets and graphical representations in the official refinement feedback thread since around the time shadowmantle hit the preview shard. i'm not trying to discourage you, i'm just trying to understand why we need another one.

imsmithy

melodywhr wrote: »

not to mention all of this has already been posted in spreadsheets and graphical representations in the official refinement feedback thread since around the time shadowmantle hit the preview shard. i'm not trying to discourage you, i'm just trying to understand why we need another one.

I'm pretty sure the same guy posted a similar thread a week or so ago and it was shut down for being in the wrong place as well as being hugely out of date so I'm guessing that annoyed him enough to make him want to repost it with up to date info but like you said , the subject matter has been taken apart , examined with a microscope , the sums have been posted and reposted so it seems odd to make a whole new thread that simply repeats what is already well known but whatever lol.

oriyellow8

usually i wont respond to any comments especially ppl who just complain all time with no constrictive thought in mind.
if this facts r posted anywhere in forum i will gladly delete this post. there r pieces all over forum yet they dont give u ad assets value and to understand them u need to know how the new refine system works - which most ppl dont understand - only until they will experience that themselves . so this was my wish to clarify it to basics -ad sum of assets and not all the process which u cant actually explain until u do it yourself.
this post had been posted in general forum which it should be there - and not on preview. their is no change in the post - only - me repeating 4 times that the ad sum is for assets being bought from vendor . i did it only once in the first post - but its seems one time u say something is not enough.

if only one person had gut some new information for him it is all worthwhile.
ppl still dont know u need only 2 shards of each kind to upgrade to higher enchantment.
ppl always ask if to upgrade there enchantments to lvl 5 - yet it only cost 8k ad to upgrade from lvl1 to 5 - so do the math yourself and have ur own thoughts about it.

uurbs

oriyellow8 wrote: »

usually i wont respond to any comments especially ppl who just complain all time with no constrictive thought in mind.

What he said:

angrysprite wrote: »

[...] If you're too lazy to write it correctly, then I suppose I'm too lazy to read it. ;-)

nolifekripparian

its just my opinion or the silvery rank 6 and higher price will increase by a lot in module 2 due to the cost of reagents?rank 6 cost sround 7-8k now,but u will need a reagent that costs 25k to fuse it......rank 7 costs 50k,but u will need reagents for 50k+ 1 rank 6+ refine points.....maybe its time to buy some silvery what do u think?

beckylunatic

A huge problem with trying to put definitive price tags on this stuff is we don't know what drop rates will be like.

This is like me trying to tell you precisely what it will cost to build a house next year, based on the price of building materials ten years ago.

zebular

. . . . . Please do not re-post locked threads. The information gathered from the Preview Server is not set in stone to be as such when it comes to live. Additionally, much information contained is conjecture and accurate assessments are already available.