ARC doesn't let me install games, at all. I'm like what the FARC.
(I could easily get it to work, but it is not my job to make the app. work properly, i guess.) I also dislike, having more than just the main application (neverwinter) running, at once. I do not want it to keep running in the background. I even turn off most of the unneeded windows services, because i like having an optimized system configuration for best performance.
Besides, if the guys in the dark suits believe, that ARC is going to generate more income for all of PWE's "not so great" games, because they are shown to everyone is a delusion/mirage and not going to happen.
It is like youtube forcing the google+ "sh..tuff" on us, all about money.
I'm not crazy about ARC, especially after reading that it requires Administrator rights to run. Since I am just a user on the PCs where I live, that would make me unable to play the game at all. As it stands, I have it installed on a portable hard drive and I can run it from there, much like a portable application. I really enjoy that. i really enjoy NW and I support it, but if ARC can't be run without admin rights, then it's just not cool for me.
I'm not crazy about ARC, especially after reading that it requires Administrator rights to run. Since I am just a user on the PCs where I live, that would make me unable to play the game at all. As it stands, I have it installed on a portable hard drive and I can run it from there, much like a portable application. i really enjoy NW and I support it, but if ARC can't be run without admin rights, then it's just not cool for me.
I did not have to grant ARC Administrator Privileges.
to be clear...I wasn't suggesting that the game be Steam-only.
I just want the option to use Steam to manage it, like I do for all of my PC games.
you guys can use ARC or a standalone download or whatever. more options are better than less options.
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armeanianMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 11Arc User
edited November 2013
If ppl aren't having problems with steam and it works for them, then I don't see why not I've only used steam for a very short time, but found I couldn't install skyrim without installing steam and setting up an account, similar with arc I have read when ppl said u could drag nw off the arc launcher and uninstall arc, I tried , and wont work I don't think u can access nw without arc now, ? but its not causing me problems yet "touch wood " but yes I do see why ppl only want the game launcher, I myself only play nw but thru arc
and see it as a waste, im not instested in the other games on arc have already tried them, but back then its just a solo launcher to install no addon launcher like arc....
- pwe is streamlining all of their games to utilize arc for launching, patch downloads and game downloads.
- arc is designed to be a lightweight install
- the current incarnation of arc pulls up the existing neverwinter game launcher--this will change and the existing game launcher will be replaced entirely by arc
- there is no requirement to download or play any other pwe title
- all pwe game websites will run on the arc framework and be viewable through arc
- this will open many doors for pwe to offer more game titles from other developers
i currently have steam installed, but have not yet installed arc. i am not opposed to installing it, but i'd like to wait until the current launcher is discontinued.
the article goes into much more detail and i would highly recommend reading it.
Eventually all separate game launchers will be removed and will only be able to launch the game thru ARC, ARC also has a browser so you can come to the forums thru the built in browser while in-game. Yes some things need to be still added to the browser but if we give them feedback that will help.
well.. i have news for you.. Arc doesn't work on windows 8 for some reason or at least in my case
. . . . . It's working fine for me. Of course, I didn't re-install it until after I upgraded my Windows 8 to the new 8.1 update. Prior to that, the previous Beta version worked fine as well but that was when it was the CORE client. The current version of ARC works fine for me on Windows 8.1.
I do hope that there will still be an option to launch the game without Arc. I'd dislike being forced to have yet another platform installed just to launch the game properly.
ausdoerrtMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited November 2013
Uh, ARC has nothing to do with Steam by any stretch of imagination. I don't like it and I don't think it should be forced, but what you're saying is pretty far out there.
I mean, every other MMO company has their own common front-end/launcher. I think it's silly and just give me a separate launcher so I don't have to see ads for other game and waste memory space on features I'll never use. But Steam? Ugh.
I have a desktop Icon and do not use Arc myself. It is installed, but I never open it.
I think he is referring to giving Steam Money $$$$$ to house the games there.
ARC is the head companies gateway program and nothing to do with the developers of this game.
I think they are Chinese (Taiwan somewhere around there) based.
How are they trying to upstage Steam - it is their own Games that they Produce (Get the funding for).
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I have a desktop Icon and do not use Arc myself. It is installed, but I never open it.
I think he is referring to giving Steam Money $$$$$ to house the games there.
ARC is the head companies gateway program and nothing to do with the developers of this game.
I think they are Chinese (Taiwan somewhere around there) based.
How are they trying to upstage Steam - it is their own Games that they Produce (Get the funding for).
Steam only charges money when actual profit is being made thanks to the platform.
And since Neverwinter is F2P, it wouldn't cost anything unless PWE tried to sell the Knight of the Feywild pack and/or other packs on Steam(in which case Steam would indeed take a certain % cut of the sales).
The only thing that requires upfront payment on Steam is publishing a game on Steam Greenlight (which would cost $100 and even then your game needs to get a high ranking to actually allow it to be sold for money on Steam, it's mainly for indie game developers and small publishing companies)
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slambitMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 282Bounty Hunter
edited November 2013
Add it as an option to steam while you're working on ARC please, also, let old installations keep their old launcher if they want, but any new ones require ARC.
PWE is not Valve, Valve has a 10-year head start and every big game company on the planet backing Steam.
Star Trek has Steam to thank for its revitalization. Neverwinter is endearing, if not downright fun, but does its popularity justify trying to open a service no one wants?
Neverwinter should be on Steam now, not as a last chance when the game starts to falter, forget this ARC <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, and use the resources from ARC to work on your games. There's plenty to do there.
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ARC is just a fancy launcher. I really dont see the beef. As the years roll on companies change their launchers. Stuff happens.
My beef with it is that it doesn't work well for me.
In the past I was unable to launch the game from ARC when the website was down. Though the launcher worked.
Last time I tried browsing the forums with ARC I had noticeable lag while scrolling. But I can use chrome with the game running with no problems. And it lacks standard features of a browser.
Today I got DCed from the middle of the CTA 3 times in a row while ARC was running. Closed everything, and launched the game straight from the launcher without ARC running. Had 0 problems since.
Nearly every time I try this software I learn to hate it more.
I'm not crazy about ARC, especially after reading that it requires Administrator rights to run. Since I am just a user on the PCs where I live, that would make me unable to play the game at all.
Same here. I can run NW on my work laptop for when I travel, but only if it doesn't require admin rights. I was fine with pre-ARC NW, but when I tried to install on a new work machine with ARC, I couldn't because of the admin requirement. If ARC becomes required, I will only be able to play at home, not when I'm traveling for work, and PWE will make less money. I hope they take that into consideration as they further develop ARC.
As far as I can tell, the only reason it requires admin is that it wants to install everything in the "\Program Files" folder. If ARC allowed us to specify another folder like pre-ARC NW does (which is in my "\Public" folder), maybe it would work fine without Admin....
I hate ARC. It is a useless program, and I hate that they push things like during download having it default install to run once your computer starts if you do not uncheck it. It is also ridiculous that it has to be running in order to play the game. I installed ARC to download Neverwinter and then immediately uninstalled it. You just need to go to the Neverwinter.exe file to launch it yourself instead of having ARC oversee you play the game.
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thaeorinMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 24Arc User
edited November 2013
I do not appreciate having to download ARC. I initially loaded NWO during the Beta... I had to reformat my drive the other day and now I can only get it through ARC. That is BS, mates... plain and simple. I should at least be given a choice. I don't play any of your other games... I have no interest in any of your other games... I do not really want your bloatware on my PC... So... please tell me there is a way to download only the NWO client and I just am unable to locate the correct link for it...
ARC will eventually replace the loader/patching functions of the current loader/patcher. but for now you should be able to run neverwinter without ARC. you just need to run the launcher executable from the install folder.
What is ArcPlugin? What does it do? Is there a good reason to allow it to run?
to clarify: I use Chrome, and every time I visit a NW page (except for the Forums), i get a notice at the top of my screen saying, "ArcPlugin needs your permission to run."
i've tried to find out on my own what the plugin does, and if its something i would allow to run (if only to get rid of the annoying notification) but I cant sem to find any information
installed to get redeem code rewards then proceeded to uninstall and use shortcut to start the game.
"...\Perfect World Entertainment\Neverwinter_en\Neverwinter.exe"
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(I could easily get it to work, but it is not my job to make the app. work properly, i guess.) I also dislike, having more than just the main application (neverwinter) running, at once. I do not want it to keep running in the background. I even turn off most of the unneeded windows services, because i like having an optimized system configuration for best performance.
Besides, if the guys in the dark suits believe, that ARC is going to generate more income for all of PWE's "not so great" games, because they are shown to everyone is a delusion/mirage and not going to happen.
It is like youtube forcing the google+ "sh..tuff" on us, all about money.
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I just want the option to use Steam to manage it, like I do for all of my PC games.
you guys can use ARC or a standalone download or whatever. more options are better than less options.
and see it as a waste, im not instested in the other games on arc have already tried them, but back then its just a solo launcher to install no addon launcher like arc....
- pwe is streamlining all of their games to utilize arc for launching, patch downloads and game downloads.
- arc is designed to be a lightweight install
- the current incarnation of arc pulls up the existing neverwinter game launcher--this will change and the existing game launcher will be replaced entirely by arc
- there is no requirement to download or play any other pwe title
- all pwe game websites will run on the arc framework and be viewable through arc
- this will open many doors for pwe to offer more game titles from other developers
i currently have steam installed, but have not yet installed arc. i am not opposed to installing it, but i'd like to wait until the current launcher is discontinued.
the article goes into much more detail and i would highly recommend reading it.
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25% to Steam?
What are they giving to Steam?
I mean, every other MMO company has their own common front-end/launcher. I think it's silly and just give me a separate launcher so I don't have to see ads for other game and waste memory space on features I'll never use. But Steam? Ugh.
I think he is referring to giving Steam Money $$$$$ to house the games there.
ARC is the head companies gateway program and nothing to do with the developers of this game.
I think they are Chinese (Taiwan somewhere around there) based.
How are they trying to upstage Steam - it is their own Games that they Produce (Get the funding for).
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Steam only charges money when actual profit is being made thanks to the platform.
And since Neverwinter is F2P, it wouldn't cost anything unless PWE tried to sell the Knight of the Feywild pack and/or other packs on Steam(in which case Steam would indeed take a certain % cut of the sales).
The only thing that requires upfront payment on Steam is publishing a game on Steam Greenlight (which would cost $100 and even then your game needs to get a high ranking to actually allow it to be sold for money on Steam, it's mainly for indie game developers and small publishing companies)
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Neverwinter should be on Steam now, not as a last chance when the game starts to falter, forget this ARC <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, and use the resources from ARC to work on your games. There's plenty to do there.
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My beef with it is that it doesn't work well for me.
In the past I was unable to launch the game from ARC when the website was down. Though the launcher worked.
Last time I tried browsing the forums with ARC I had noticeable lag while scrolling. But I can use chrome with the game running with no problems. And it lacks standard features of a browser.
Today I got DCed from the middle of the CTA 3 times in a row while ARC was running. Closed everything, and launched the game straight from the launcher without ARC running. Had 0 problems since.
Nearly every time I try this software I learn to hate it more.
Same here. I can run NW on my work laptop for when I travel, but only if it doesn't require admin rights. I was fine with pre-ARC NW, but when I tried to install on a new work machine with ARC, I couldn't because of the admin requirement. If ARC becomes required, I will only be able to play at home, not when I'm traveling for work, and PWE will make less money. I hope they take that into consideration as they further develop ARC.
As far as I can tell, the only reason it requires admin is that it wants to install everything in the "\Program Files" folder. If ARC allowed us to specify another folder like pre-ARC NW does (which is in my "\Public" folder), maybe it would work fine without Admin....
Can someone at Cryptic pass this on to PWE?
to clarify: I use Chrome, and every time I visit a NW page (except for the Forums), i get a notice at the top of my screen saying, "ArcPlugin needs your permission to run."
i've tried to find out on my own what the plugin does, and if its something i would allow to run (if only to get rid of the annoying notification) but I cant sem to find any information
"...\Perfect World Entertainment\Neverwinter_en\Neverwinter.exe"