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[Guide] Astral Diamonds (by Yggdrasil)

traznixtraznix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited September 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
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Hope everyone will enjoy this guide, and maybe some of you may find it usefull, I tried my best to make it look as nice as possible and tried to add as much info as I could.
If the community enjoys my guide, and the feedback is good, then I'll be glad to make more guides like this.


Best Regards,
Yggdrasil
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  • schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    + Y forget Lord Neverember daly Q.
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  • traznixtraznix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    + Y forget Lord Neverember daly Q.

    Have you even read everything ? I didn't forget ...
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  • melodywhrmelodywhr Member Posts: 4,220 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    nice graphic and very informative. :cool:
  • traznixtraznix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    melodywhr wrote: »
    nice graphic and very informative. :cool:

    Thank you for the feedback :)
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Couple of things I'd note are that you get RADs from only the first three invokes of any daily cycle... from when you also get your coins and the next two times, with diminishing returns. At level 60, this is 2000AD per day, and it scales down with your level.

    With Leadership, tasks that award ADs will level the profession much more slowly than tasks that award the most Leadership XP, and the player needs to choose between long-term and short-term gain in this respect. Level 20 Leadership is very profitable, but it takes weeks of grinding the same tasks (that award no ADs) repeatedly to get there.
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  • sedryntyrossedryntyros Member Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Like the graphic. Very polished. :cool:
  • runebanerunebane Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Very nice. For the most part its better than the official guide. Because its simpler.

    Unless I'm blind though, you completely left out the exchange. People can use this as a method of obtaining AD (for Zen) or trading AD between characters on the same account.
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  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Rough AD vs Regular AD are both RAD so anyone who would need this info could be confused by the RAD label.

    The AD exchange may be worth a mention, tying in the fact that you can just BUY ad with money via buying zen.
  • ximaeximae Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    Also left out the unicorn and drake seals for salvaging... they just keep stacking up and its a good way to put some use to them
  • schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    traznix wrote: »
    Have you even read everything ? I didn't forget ...

    Sorry i don't saw mybe i am tired.
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  • goddessuniquegoddessunique Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Nice work but you sir, have too much time on your hands. lol
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  • trollgretrollgre Member Posts: 297
    edited September 2013
    always join dungeons during DD
    trade seals then salvage

    you forgot to add seal items
  • neskolfneskolf Member Posts: 97
    edited September 2013
    Well done. Might be worth mentioning the daily refining cap (unless it's in there and I missed it).
  • slayorianslayorian Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Another key item missed:
    The 24k refine limit and how to deal with it.

    When running DDs, if you get loot you're going to salvage (that's not bound), always send it to an alt that doesn't have as much rough AD laying around as the char you used to run the DD. With enough characters you can be refining over 100k AD/day.

    Might also throw in the bit about how to use the zen exchange to transfer the refined AD back to your main.
  • syka08syka08 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    slayorian wrote: »
    Another key item missed:
    The 24k refine limit and how to deal with it.

    When running DDs, if you get loot you're going to salvage (that's not bound), always send it to an alt that doesn't have as much rough AD laying around as the char you used to run the DD. With enough characters you can be refining over 100k AD/day.

    Might also throw in the bit about how to use the zen exchange to transfer the refined AD back to your main.

    Not entirely helpful if you're trying to build up AD on a single character. Of course, if you're okay with taking a 10 - 12.5% loss to move AD between characters, this definitely is a viable option.

    This also assumes that you've either a) saved up AD to purchase Zen (in which case, you probably don't need an AD guide) or b) are going to spend money on the game to get extra character slots, for your "over 100k ad/day" remark.

    Still, a valid point to bring up.
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  • traznixtraznix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    ximae wrote: »
    Also left out the unicorn and drake seals for salvaging... they just keep stacking up and its a good way to put some use to them

    Indeed I forgot about them, thank you for the reminder, I will add them tomorrow.

    Best Regards,
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  • rhoriangelusrhoriangelus Member Posts: 703 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    syka08 wrote: »
    Not entirely helpful if you're trying to build up AD on a single character. Of course, if you're okay with taking a 10 - 12.5% loss to move AD between characters, this definitely is a viable option.

    This also assumes that you've either a) saved up AD to purchase Zen (in which case, you probably don't need an AD guide) or b) are going to spend money on the game to get extra character slots, for your "over 100k ad/day" remark.

    Still, a valid point to bring up.

    You don't have to transfer AD via the AH unless you're talking characters on two different accounts. You can put it up on the zen exchange for a ridiculous price no one will pay - like 50 AD per zen - and then switch to the other character, cancel the exchange, and withdraw the AD.

    Getting the zen for extra slots is actually really easy, also. It's one of the cheaper things in the zen store, and it's for two slots. It's worth it for having space to store stuff, trying out other classes/races without having to delete your characters, or dealing with trying to transfer stuff between different accounts. The last time they were on sale I bought as many as I had zen for at the time. With the weekly sale thing now, chances are they'll go on sale again soon.
  • traznixtraznix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I have now updated the guide to contain info about salvaging Seal items. Thank you for the feedback everyone, I will try to update is as much as I can, and I will add the Zen Exchange tomorrow.

    Best Regards,
    Yggdrasil
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  • syka08syka08 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    You don't have to transfer AD via the AH unless you're talking characters on two different accounts. You can put it up on the zen exchange for a ridiculous price no one will pay - like 50 AD per zen - and then switch to the other character, cancel the exchange, and withdraw the AD.

    Getting the zen for extra slots is actually really easy, also. It's one of the cheaper things in the zen store, and it's for two slots. It's worth it for having space to store stuff, trying out other classes/races without having to delete your characters, or dealing with trying to transfer stuff between different accounts. The last time they were on sale I bought as many as I had zen for at the time. With the weekly sale thing now, chances are they'll go on sale again soon.

    I am leery of using the Zen shop mechanic as I only understand the Buying potion.(and what cryptic posted didn't help). The selling side seems like the exact same thing to me, only people on the selling side make less profit because their zen is leaving them for less than those wanting to buy? I don't know if that makes sense.

    Still, I'll experiment with this mechanic until I'm more comfortable with it, but thank you for giving me a new avenue.

    And yeah, it's a slight inconvenience, but from a price standpoint buying two new character slots (without even leveling the character, really) is a far better bargain than purchasing bags.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    When you use the exchange, you get to specify what you would like to buy or sell your currency at. If you post an offer or a request at the current rate, you should see it filled quickly (unless you've hit a bubble where the rate is changing rapidly), but you can tell the system you would like to sell higher or buy lower. That means you'll have to wait for someone else to make a posting that matches.

    When selling Zen via the exchange, you are selling it to other players for the exact rate that they are willing to pay. You don't control the market, but you do control what rate you personally are willing to sell at. The system won't sell your currency for less than you've chosen to accept.
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  • kimonkakimonka Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Ack, I can't see the picture x-x!
  • zip2stepzip2step Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Seems the link is broken, I can't see the guide.
  • runebanerunebane Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    syka08 wrote: »
    I am leery of using the Zen shop mechanic as I only understand the Buying potion.(and what cryptic posted didn't help). The selling side seems like the exact same thing to me, only people on the selling side make less profit because their zen is leaving them for less than those wanting to buy? I don't know if that makes sense.

    Still, I'll experiment with this mechanic until I'm more comfortable with it, but thank you for giving me a new avenue.


    Using the exchange to transfer AD between characters (on the same account & server) is pretty easy once you know how. Basically you put up an offer to buy Zen at a 50AD/1Zen rate. Then cancel it. Then withdraw it with another character on the same account and server.

    Lets say you are trying to give an alt 60,000AD for some reason. You would put up an offer for 1200Zen at 50AD each (60K total). No one is going to intentionally sell you their zen at that price. So then you can just cancel it. Cancelling the offer puts the AD into a pool that you can withdraw with your other characters. (Remember it has to be same server/account.) You lose nothing.

    They could make this so much easier by simply adding a deposit button, but oh well...

    syka08 wrote: »
    And yeah, it's a slight inconvenience, but from a price standpoint buying two new character slots (without even leveling the character, really) is a far better bargain than purchasing bags.

    Can't really argue with that. Though personally I like the convenience of not having to mail everything. I spend to much time mailing stuff as it is.
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  • syka08syka08 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    runebane wrote: »
    Using the exchange to transfer AD between characters (on the same account & server) is pretty easy once you know how. Basically you put up an offer to buy Zen at a 50AD/1Zen rate. Then cancel it. Then withdraw it with another character on the same account and server.

    Lets say you are trying to give an alt 60,000AD for some reason. You would put up an offer for 1200Zen at 50AD each (60K total). No one is going to intentionally sell you their zen at that price. So then you can just cancel it. Cancelling the offer puts the AD into a pool that you can withdraw with your other characters. (Remember it has to be same server/account.) You lose nothing.

    They could make this so much easier by simply adding a deposit button, but oh well...

    Ah. That makes sense, thank you. I don't want to spam this man's thread, honestly, but I have another question concerning the zen system. I'll just post that up in it's own thread. But thank you :3
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited September 2013
    kimonka wrote: »
    Ack, I can't see the picture x-x!
    zip2step wrote: »
    Seems the link is broken, I can't see the guide.
    I fixed the link for everyone.
  • wagnbatwagnbat Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I can't see it...
  • jkeunspoxkjkeunspoxk Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    zebular wrote: »
    I fixed the link for everyone.

    I can only see a broken image link.
  • traznixtraznix Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The link/image is now fixed. Hope everyone will enjoy it :)

    Best Regards,
    Yggdrasil
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  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    If I may add...

    The most lucrative DDs to run right now are...

    1) CN (of course).
    2) GG Dwarf King's Crypt (often good T2 items).
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  • shareenahshareenah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Thank you very informative and thank you for your time and effort to help others.
    Many thanks
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