Ever heard of moving out of range or following the trajectory of the daggers to kill the TR? Cloud of Steel does not have the range a CW has in PVP. Just use unstoppable, stun the TR, and kill the TR. For real it is just that simple and every good GWF has figured out how to do it. You may also want to slot some silvery enchantments because they will boost recovery. Recovery will speed up recharge and your AP gain.
Why you all talk about stun stun ?? like stun skill can be spammed every 5 sec
Stupid stun skill got 13.6 sec cooldown ,TR can use immune to avoid either knock down or stun
That what i talk about ,Cloud of steel make nice damage while he hide then follow it immune skill which not lead me to stun him
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ggyuMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
You are wrong again as usual. One hit kills are when a player can kill you at full health with only one hit. You first have to be injured for stuff like Shocking Execution to work properly. A GWF has abilities to make TRs come out of stealth and most players can follow trajectory to find where the TR is hiding. You simply need to improve your skills and are being pathetic by continuing to cry in the forums instead of practicing. Your complaints about TRs have no merit and your misinformation has been proven wrong.
Listen GWF have 2 skills that show TR one Daily and other encounter But if i change encounter to that skills i will cause me to decrease my damage or my control ,So please i know GWF Either be weak Aoe or High single dps
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kingculexMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Why you all talk about stun stun ?? like stun skill can be spammed every 5 sec
Stupid stun skill got 13.6 sec cooldown ,TR can use immune to avoid either knock down or stun
That what i talk about ,Cloud of steel make nice damage while he hide then follow it immune skill which not lead me to stun him
Ah, no comment about silvery enchantments to boost recovery or following trajectory of the daggers. Just more crying over cloud of steal at impossible to catch. You probably have the wrong gear and the wrong playing skills if TRs are such a threat to you. Recovery will speed up the recharge/cooldown and your AP gain. I bet you will just continue to cry instead of looking into it.
Every class has advantages and disadvantages. Learn the disadvantages of you class to overcome them. Learn the advantages of your class and the disadvatages of other classes to use them in pvp to win.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
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ggyuMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I'll try addressing this directly with you, although I suspect we may have a serious failure to communicate.
If you're allowing a TR to take all 8 shots at you without doing anything to respond it is completely on you unless you're already fighting other opponents and your teammates are useless. You have more HP than most DC's and all CW's, considerably more than most TR's and many Sentinel GWF's spec to have the highest HP in the game. If you're taking that much damage, you should have more than enough determination to pop unstoppable and go after the TR. Since any all and all GWF at-will powers WILL hit a TR in stealth and can quickly do enough damage to take them out and keep them out of stealth, this is very much a playstyle issue.
If that so ,I'm sorry about communicate part
But GWF not highest Hp at all ,I made highest build HP i found with gear but end up with 28k HP
While on other hand the ooooop GF got 32k in easily not tanked build with timeless Gear
And when TR use one me 8 hits from Cloud of steel,All i can do is run or run ?
I got that high damage on me But i use unstoppable and when i start to hit him with stun or knock down he use immune
While other TR that not use immune i can eat them alive ,The idea is in immune
I don't know if anyone notice that when TR use immune i think he got more high deflect chance i don't know how ,but i see that
I tried every at-will aoe skills can't get TR from hide ,I swear with that
The only build i tried with TR is aoe less control and damage that made TR appear i won't lie there way to show them but case me to lose damage and control
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ggyuMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Ah, no comment about silvery enchantments to boost recovery or following trajectory of the daggers. Just more crying over cloud of steal at impossible to catch. You probably have the wrong gear and the wrong playing skills if TRs are such a threat to you. Recovery will speed up the recharge/cooldown and your AP gain. I bet you will just continue to cry instead of looking into it.
Will All i can see if got for high recovery Build it will cause me to lose Crit and Armor Pen
Which lead to decrease my abilty in high damage
And if i want to get any type of gear ?? How i should do that with stupid GWF that useless in dung and pve this days thank for cryptic idea
I already tried other build ,only 1 build happen to show TR from hide ,Aoe less control and less damage build
You know I'm not the only GWF see that GWF is not loved in this game
We not good pve ,dung
New GWF will have big issue in getting there stuff
In Pvp all people know TR ,GF own the field
If that so ,I'm sorry about communicate part
But GWF not highest Hp at all ,I made highest build HP i found with gear but end up with 28k HP
While on other hand the ooooop GF got 32k in easily not tanked build with timeless Gear
And when TR use one me 8 hits from Cloud of steel,All i can do is run or run ?
I got that high damage on me But i use unstoppable and when i start to hit him with stun or knock down he use immune
While other TR that not use immune i can eat them alive ,The idea is in immune
I don't know if anyone notice that when TR use immune i think he got more high deflect chance i don't know how ,but i see that
I tried every at-will aoe skills can't get TR from hide ,I swear with that
The only build i tried with TR is aoe less control and damage that made TR appear i won't lie there way to show them but case me to lose damage and control
wth? i made it to 37k hp easily and still have decent dmg, something is wrong with ur stats and feats
Will All i can see if got for high recovery Build it will cause me to lose Crit and Armor Pen
Which lead to decrease my abilty in high damage
And if i want to get any type of gear ?? How i should do that with stupid GWF that useless in dung and pve this days thank for cryptic idea
I already tried other build ,only 1 build happen to show TR from hide ,Aoe less control and less damage build
You know I'm not the only GWF see that GWF is not loved in this game
We not good pve ,dung
New GWF will have big issue in getting there stuff
In Pvp all people know TR ,GF own the field
GWFs are good in PVE and PVP if the player knows how to build them and play them. Increasing recovery will increase your rate of attacks by decreasing cool down/recharge time which means you will do more damage over time instead of in single strikes. Your main excuse has been that the recharge/cool down time is too long and recovery will help. It is rather obvious you have not thought of this and want stuff simplified and handed to you instead of using your brain. You should be blaming yourself instead of other players because clearly you lack the skills to properly use your GWF or build it. Continue to cry because it is becoming more and more funny.
Every class has advantages and disadvantages. Learn the disadvantages of you class to overcome them. Learn the advantages of your class and the disadvatages of other classes to use them in pvp to win.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
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ggyuMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
GWFs are good in PVE and PVP if the player knows how to build them and play them. Increasing recovery will increase your rate of attacks by decreasing cool down/recharge time which means you will do more damage over time instead of in single strikes. Your main excuse has been that the recharge/cool down time is too long and recovery will help/ It is rather obvious you have not thought of this and want stuff simplified and handed to you instead of using your brain. You should be blaming yourself instead of other players because clearly you lack the skills to properly use your GWF or build it. Continue to cry because it is becoming more and more funny.
Will i blame Cryptic not other players ??
First of all you think changing build and getting gear that rate to get because We useless in pve and dung easy ???
Will i want to change my build to recovery before But i can't ?? you know why ?? Because this game love GWF so much been eliminated in dung and pve
I can't get my weapon set untill now because Weapon and Off-hand cost like 2 million e.e
And if GWF good in pve as you say ?? why people ask for CW,Dc and TR in CN not ask for GWF ???
Even GF could be asked for because he high tank
GWF is second class in everything ,So why get second while you can get first ??
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kingculexMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Will i blame Cryptic not other players ??
First of all you think changing build and getting gear that rate to get because We useless in pve and dung easy ???
Will i want to change my build to recovery before But i can't ?? you know why ?? Because this game love GWF so much been eliminated in dung and pve
I can't get my weapon set untill now because Weapon and Off-hand cost like 2 million e.e
And if GWF good in pve as you say ?? why people ask for CW,Dc and TR in CN not ask for GWF ???
Even GF could be asked for because he high tank
GWF is second class in everything ,So why get second while you can get first ??
So you went from blaming TRs and GFs that are played by other players to blaming Cryptic. I have seen several times where TRs were not asked to be in a party in CN and even kicked when they joined through the queue system. CWs, DCs, and GFs are the main ones to run CN because of the mobs.
Every class has advantages and disadvantages. Learn the disadvantages of you class to overcome them. Learn the advantages of your class and the disadvatages of other classes to use them in pvp to win.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
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ggyuMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
So you went from blaming TRs and GFs that are played by other players to blaming Cryptic. I have seen several times where TRs were not asked to be in a party in CN and even kicked when they joined through the queue system. CWs, DCs, and GFs are the main ones to run CN because of the mobs.
If that so ,I'm sorry about communicate part
But GWF not highest Hp at all ,I made highest build HP i found with gear but end up with 28k HP
While on other hand the ooooop GF got 32k in easily not tanked build with timeless Gear
And when TR use one me 8 hits from Cloud of steel,All i can do is run or run ?
I got that high damage on me But i use unstoppable and when i start to hit him with stun or knock down he use immune
While other TR that not use immune i can eat them alive ,The idea is in immune
I don't know if anyone notice that when TR use immune i think he got more high deflect chance i don't know how ,but i see that
I tried every at-will aoe skills can't get TR from hide ,I swear with that
The only build i tried with TR is aoe less control and damage that made TR appear i won't lie there way to show them but case me to lose damage and control
There are Sentinel GWF's with around 37K hp, stacking radiant enchants in every defensive slot. My GF has (I think) around 32K HP from stacking radiants, he's a very tough character but there are lots of trade-offs there so he is NOT OP (especially after the exceedingly costly nerf to Stalwart's)and neither are TR's - particularly after the many nerfs to that class. So I am not sure how you have your character built, but something seems off there.
A TR has about 3 seconds of immunity from the time they pop ItC. That is all. Stay on them.
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ggyuMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
There are Sentinel GWF's with around 37K hp, stacking radiant enchants in every defensive slot. My GF has (I think) around 32K HP from stacking radiants, he's a very tough character but there are lots of trade-offs there so he is NOT OP (especially after the exceedingly costly nerf to Stalwart's)and neither are TR's - particularly after the many nerfs to that class. So I am not sure how you have your character built, but something seems off there.
A TR has about 3 seconds of immunity from the time they pop ItC. That is all. Stay on them.
But i think 37k Is way is over limit ,I don't believe it i don't know Maybe it can happen if radiants were rank 10
Since GF get 32k Easily without all of that stuff Beside i wear 1800 Hp Gear + i made the heath build but all i can get 28k Hp ,So i don't believe 37k GWF ,maybe if GF i could believe it
and in less case GF still got his Timeless Gear
And we got 3 Defs slot only from pants , Waist and Body and if we put like 600 Hp in every slot it can make 32 or 33k max for GWF ,So i don't really
And beside Sentinel build not giving any Hp by anyway ,It just 9% and 15% inc on cont effect from normal feats not paragon
But i think 37k Is way is over limit ,I don't believe it i don't know Maybe it can happen if radiants were rank 10
Since GF get 32k Easily without all of that stuff Beside i wear 1800 Hp Gear + i made the heath build but all i can get 28k Hp ,So i don't believe 37k GWF ,maybe if GF i could believe it
and in less case GF still got his Timeless Gear
And we got 3 Defs slot only from pants , Waist and Body and if we put like 600 Hp in every slot it can make 32 or 33k max for GWF ,So i don't really
And beside Sentinel build not giving any Hp by anyway ,It just 9% and 15% inc on cont effect from normal feats not paragon
I have hit 29k, with Con at 20, using rank 5s. 30k hp is definitely achievable on a budget.
I suspect some of the points people are making aren't being understood, by you, because English isn't your first language. I'd like to try something else. Can you take some screenshots of your character, feat and powers page and post them in this thread? Give us an opportunity to suggest some changes to your build and see if that helps.
You're also falling into the same trap as everyone else that complains about the TR - everything you say is absolute. It's all "trust me, I know - there are no fallacies in my thinking". You need to open your mind to the possibility that you don't know everything. If you come to the forums displaying some humility others will treat you in a less hostile manner as well.
But i think 37k Is way is over limit ,I don't believe it i don't know Maybe it can happen if radiants were rank 10
Since GF get 32k Easily without all of that stuff Beside i wear 1800 Hp Gear + i made the heath build but all i can get 28k Hp ,So i don't believe 37k GWF ,maybe if GF i could believe it
and in less case GF still got his Timeless Gear
And we got 3 Defs slot only from pants , Waist and Body and if we put like 600 Hp in every slot it can make 32 or 33k max for GWF ,So i don't really
And beside Sentinel build not giving any Hp by anyway ,It just 9% and 15% inc on cont effect from normal feats not paragon
3x radiant rank 7 in defensive slots(waist,chest,pants), all feats maxed that give hp/constitution and around 24 hp in stats with 2x titan,2x imp and u should have 36-7k hp
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ggyuMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
3x radiant rank 7 in defensive slots(waist,chest,pants), all feats maxed that give hp/constitution and around 24 hp in stats with 2x titan,2x imp and u should have 36-7k hp
why you dont have unstoppable recovery paragon feat?oO, also u should change that weapon mastery feat to constituiton focus
it give u nice heathl boost
why you dont have unstoppable recovery paragon feat?oO, also u should change that weapon mastery feat to constituiton focus
it give u nice heathl boost
Will i don't see 5% heal is that powerfull really ,it heal me with 1350 Hp only ?? And you didn't tell me what your cont number
with 37k hp u get 1850 hp per unstopable use so its really good
Will i don't see 5% heal is that powerfull really ,it heal me with 1350 Hp only ?? And you didn't tell me what your cont number ??
Yes 5% doesn't seem like a lot until you think about how many times you use unstoppable in a fight. Also, this feat doesn't scale with how much determination you have so it means it's better to use it at 50% determination rather than 100%.
I find it interesting that you both use the Fast Runner feat. I tried it and didn't feel it made a big enough difference in my ability to chase. Personally, I'd take those points and put them in Armor Specialization as it offers much better synergy with Steely Defense and Sentinel's Aegis. However, an argument could be made to skip Steely Defense unless you are also using Deep Gash and/or Defiance.
Grim Promise is an interesting choice as well. I can see how that could work but I've always found I use Crescendo to finish a target that hasn't died to Flourish > Takedown > Restoring strike (so the damage resist is pointless). That said, if you switch Restoring Strike to Indomitable Battle Strike (for the AP gain) and do something like Flourish > Crescendo > Takedown > IBS that could be effective. Personally I'd switch Grim Promise for Grudge Style especially if you are taking Great Weapon Focus (@Dante).
Also Dante, I think you should definitely look into taking the Weapon Mastery feat. 3% crit that isn't subject to diminishing returns is too good to pass.
As for powers ggyu, I'd put points in Steel Grace and Steel Blitz. Take points out of Savage Advance, Battle Fury, Punishing Charge and, possibly Come and Get It (no feat synergy in your build and it's not a great power to begin with). Steel Grace is amazing in PvP (if opposition is CC heavy). You may not using it very often, as Bravery and Weapon Master work very well for Sentinel, but it's nice to have the option. Steel Blitz will up your damage when you PvE.
PvP is ultimately about burst damage and counter-burst damage. If you build around maximizing your damage per cooldown and are able to limit your opponents' damage per cooldown, you'll be in a good spot.
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Will i don't see 5% heal is that powerfull really ,it heal me with 1350 Hp only ?? And you didn't tell me what your cont number
with 37k hp u get 1850 hp per unstopable use so its really good
Restoring Strick give you same heal point with more effect so i think it better that my idea
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ggyuMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Yes 5% doesn't seem like a lot until you think about how many times you use unstoppable in a fight. Also, this feat doesn't scale with how much determination you have so it means it's better to use it at 50% determination rather than 100%.
I find it interesting that you both use the Fast Runner feat. I tried it and didn't feel it made a big enough difference in my ability to chase. Personally, I'd take those points and put them in Armor Specialization as it offers much better synergy with Steely Defense and Sentinel's Aegis. However, an argument could be made to skip Steely Defense unless you are also using Deep Gash and/or Defiance.
Grim Promise is an interesting choice as well. I can see how that could work but I've always found I use Crescendo to finish a target that hasn't died to Flourish > Takedown > Restoring strike (so the damage resist is pointless). That said, if you switch Restoring Strike to Indomitable Battle Strike (for the AP gain) and do something like Flourish > Crescendo > Takedown > IBS that could be effective. Personally I'd switch Grim Promise for Grudge Style especially if you are taking Great Weapon Focus (@Dante).
Also Dante, I think you should definitely look into taking the Weapon Mastery feat. 3% crit that isn't subject to diminishing returns is too good to pass.
As for powers ggyu, I'd put points in Steel Grace and Steel Blitz. Take points out of Savage Advance, Battle Fury, Punishing Charge and, possibly Come and Get It (no feat synergy in your build and it's not a great power to begin with). Steel Grace is amazing in PvP (if opposition is CC heavy). You may not using it very often, as Bravery and Weapon Master work very well for Sentinel, but it's nice to have the option. Steel Blitz will up your damage when you PvE.
PvP is ultimately about burst damage and counter-burst damage. If you build around maximizing your damage per cooldown and are able to limit your opponents' damage per cooldown, you'll be in a good spot.
Will first i think about unstoppable used when it full bared to give 16% more hp and 50% damage res
Second Fast runner is way better than Armor Specialization ,try to remove Armor Specialization and you will see it won't change much in your defens stats ,i think it kinda bugged ,i already tired it and without it in test server and it like no big different
Will I use Savage Advance it nice to hunt down running people ,trust me with nice damage
Pushing charge is way better in run stuff and batte of furry is nice skill in refill Shift for run in care race build with migity lap
Come and get it with Daring marked nice to take tank from other people in dung
And i believe while i remove Weapon master and Bravey make nice mix in pvp crit,deflect and run speed
Steel grace dec 30% only ?? mean it weak and why use it while you got unstoppable ??
Destoyer and Weapon master make nice build for pve ,atleast destoyer is more usefull in dung number
Steel Grace reduces the cc effect by 30%. Quite a few patches ago (good luck trying to find it) Unstoppable was changed so that activating it doesn't break as many cc as it used to (for example it used to break entangling force - now it doesn't).
Regarding Armor Spec - it does exactly as advertised for me. Makes a noticeable improvement to survivability in PvE and PvP.
Even with feats in Powerful Challenge and Intimidation I find I can't do enough threat to hold agro when running with an equivalently geared group. CaGI was the last ability I suggest you chop points anyway.
Steel Blitz is far superior to Destroyer. It procs a lot and works even if you are hitting one target.
Regarding your use of Unstoppable. NEVER let the a full bar determine when you use it. A full determination bar isn't much use if you are dead.
I don't run a human Sentinel GWF but if I did, this is how I'd set it up for PvP. I'd also experiment with putting points in Grit (Unstoppable Action) and Grim Promise (Grudge Style) as variations.
Steel Grace reduces the cc effect by 30%. Quite a few patches ago (good luck trying to find it) Unstoppable was changed so that activating it doesn't break as many cc as it used to (for example it used to break entangling force - now it doesn't).
Regarding Armor Spec - it does exactly as advertised for me. Makes a noticeable improvement to survivability in PvE and PvP.
Even with feats in Powerful Challenge and Intimidation I find I can't do enough threat to hold agro when running with an equivalently geared group. CaGI was the last ability I suggest you chop points anyway.
Steel Blitz is far superior to Destroyer. It procs a lot and works even if you are hitting one target.
Regarding your use of Unstoppable. NEVER let the a full bar determine when you use it. A full determination bar isn't much use if you are dead.
I don't run a human Sentinel GWF but if I did, this is how I'd set it up for PvP. I'd also experiment with putting points in Grit (Unstoppable Action) and Grim Promise (Grudge Style) as variations.
ggyu, this is a bit confusing. You complained that TR's are overpowered and GWF's are weak. You disagree with things that have been shared repeatedly on the forum as well as observed in game. People are suggesting changes to you that might help you do better and your response seems to be "my way is better, thanks."
If you way were better, then why did you start complaining in the first place? No need to answer, but you might want to think about it.
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ggyuMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
ggyu, this is a bit confusing. You complained that TR's are overpowered and GWF's are weak. You disagree with things that have been shared repeatedly on the forum as well as observed in game. People are suggesting changes to you that might help you do better and your response seems to be "my way is better, thanks."
If you way were better, then why did you start complaining in the first place? No need to answer, but you might want to think about it.
Will did i say "my way is better" ??nope
I already change alot of things in my build ,But still there stuff i think it right ,like Decrease 10% mitin from traget against my Enounter or Heath by 5% on Unstoppable i choose Mition really
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kingculexMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
ggyu, this is a bit confusing. You complained that TR's are overpowered and GWF's are weak. You disagree with things that have been shared repeatedly on the forum as well as observed in game. People are suggesting changes to you that might help you do better and your response seems to be "my way is better, thanks."
If you way were better, then why did you start complaining in the first place? No need to answer, but you might want to think about it.
Clearly he is a lost cause and would rather cry and argue. Thanks to everyone trying to help him have a viable GWF. Sigh, I honestly fear for the future of this game because so many of the criers who want nerfs are like him. It is possible to have a viable GWF that would be good at PVE and PVP. The suggestions here are how players make GWFs a viable class. The PVP gear is not the best gear in the game and is basically the first level of epic gear for level 60.
Every class has advantages and disadvantages. Learn the disadvantages of you class to overcome them. Learn the advantages of your class and the disadvatages of other classes to use them in pvp to win.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
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Why you all talk about stun stun ?? like stun skill can be spammed every 5 sec
Stupid stun skill got 13.6 sec cooldown ,TR can use immune to avoid either knock down or stun
That what i talk about ,Cloud of steel make nice damage while he hide then follow it immune skill which not lead me to stun him
I can do that ,If i got AD I can't get AD at all ,now GWF useless in pve and dungs =.=
Listen GWF have 2 skills that show TR one Daily and other encounter But if i change encounter to that skills i will cause me to decrease my damage or my control ,So please i know GWF Either be weak Aoe or High single dps
Ah, no comment about silvery enchantments to boost recovery or following trajectory of the daggers. Just more crying over cloud of steal at impossible to catch. You probably have the wrong gear and the wrong playing skills if TRs are such a threat to you. Recovery will speed up the recharge/cooldown and your AP gain. I bet you will just continue to cry instead of looking into it.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
If that so ,I'm sorry about communicate part
But GWF not highest Hp at all ,I made highest build HP i found with gear but end up with 28k HP
While on other hand the ooooop GF got 32k in easily not tanked build with timeless Gear
And when TR use one me 8 hits from Cloud of steel,All i can do is run or run ?
I got that high damage on me But i use unstoppable and when i start to hit him with stun or knock down he use immune
While other TR that not use immune i can eat them alive ,The idea is in immune
I don't know if anyone notice that when TR use immune i think he got more high deflect chance i don't know how ,but i see that
I tried every at-will aoe skills can't get TR from hide ,I swear with that
The only build i tried with TR is aoe less control and damage that made TR appear i won't lie there way to show them but case me to lose damage and control
Will All i can see if got for high recovery Build it will cause me to lose Crit and Armor Pen
Which lead to decrease my abilty in high damage
And if i want to get any type of gear ?? How i should do that with stupid GWF that useless in dung and pve this days thank for cryptic idea
I already tried other build ,only 1 build happen to show TR from hide ,Aoe less control and less damage build
You know I'm not the only GWF see that GWF is not loved in this game
We not good pve ,dung
New GWF will have big issue in getting there stuff
In Pvp all people know TR ,GF own the field
1. Play the TR to answer your own question.
2. Request the devs to delete all classes other than yours.
3. Don't pvp.
I didn't blame about CW or DC lmao
I blame about TR ,GF alot of people agree they more than op
Than why not show me your gear and your feats build ??
GWFs are good in PVE and PVP if the player knows how to build them and play them. Increasing recovery will increase your rate of attacks by decreasing cool down/recharge time which means you will do more damage over time instead of in single strikes. Your main excuse has been that the recharge/cool down time is too long and recovery will help. It is rather obvious you have not thought of this and want stuff simplified and handed to you instead of using your brain. You should be blaming yourself instead of other players because clearly you lack the skills to properly use your GWF or build it. Continue to cry because it is becoming more and more funny.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
Will i blame Cryptic not other players ??
First of all you think changing build and getting gear that rate to get because We useless in pve and dung easy ???
Will i want to change my build to recovery before But i can't ?? you know why ?? Because this game love GWF so much been eliminated in dung and pve
I can't get my weapon set untill now because Weapon and Off-hand cost like 2 million e.e
And if GWF good in pve as you say ?? why people ask for CW,Dc and TR in CN not ask for GWF ???
Even GF could be asked for because he high tank
GWF is second class in everything ,So why get second while you can get first ??
So you went from blaming TRs and GFs that are played by other players to blaming Cryptic. I have seen several times where TRs were not asked to be in a party in CN and even kicked when they joined through the queue system. CWs, DCs, and GFs are the main ones to run CN because of the mobs.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
So it either GF or TR in end ,right ?? Not GWF
There are Sentinel GWF's with around 37K hp, stacking radiant enchants in every defensive slot. My GF has (I think) around 32K HP from stacking radiants, he's a very tough character but there are lots of trade-offs there so he is NOT OP (especially after the exceedingly costly nerf to Stalwart's)and neither are TR's - particularly after the many nerfs to that class. So I am not sure how you have your character built, but something seems off there.
A TR has about 3 seconds of immunity from the time they pop ItC. That is all. Stay on them.
But i think 37k Is way is over limit ,I don't believe it i don't know Maybe it can happen if radiants were rank 10
Since GF get 32k Easily without all of that stuff Beside i wear 1800 Hp Gear + i made the heath build but all i can get 28k Hp ,So i don't believe 37k GWF ,maybe if GF i could believe it
and in less case GF still got his Timeless Gear
And we got 3 Defs slot only from pants , Waist and Body and if we put like 600 Hp in every slot it can make 32 or 33k max for GWF ,So i don't really
And beside Sentinel build not giving any Hp by anyway ,It just 9% and 15% inc on cont effect from normal feats not paragon
I have hit 29k, with Con at 20, using rank 5s. 30k hp is definitely achievable on a budget.
I suspect some of the points people are making aren't being understood, by you, because English isn't your first language. I'd like to try something else. Can you take some screenshots of your character, feat and powers page and post them in this thread? Give us an opportunity to suggest some changes to your build and see if that helps.
You're also falling into the same trap as everyone else that complains about the TR - everything you say is absolute. It's all "trust me, I know - there are no fallacies in my thinking". You need to open your mind to the possibility that you don't know everything. If you come to the forums displaying some humility others will treat you in a less hostile manner as well.
Dex :19
Str: 27
http://nwcalc.com/gwf?b=iv3:4zgu4:b5z0,13m0u3c:60000:6z000:bu551&h=0
That my build
as for gear I use GG Gear Called Valiant One
it give u nice heathl boost
my feats build with human race
http://nwcalc.com/gwf?b=cn4:2hwcg:5m9s,12ncx0i:b0000:b0000:bz051&h=1
Will i don't see 5% heal is that powerfull really ,it heal me with 1350 Hp only ?? And you didn't tell me what your cont number ??
Yes 5% doesn't seem like a lot until you think about how many times you use unstoppable in a fight. Also, this feat doesn't scale with how much determination you have so it means it's better to use it at 50% determination rather than 100%.
I find it interesting that you both use the Fast Runner feat. I tried it and didn't feel it made a big enough difference in my ability to chase. Personally, I'd take those points and put them in Armor Specialization as it offers much better synergy with Steely Defense and Sentinel's Aegis. However, an argument could be made to skip Steely Defense unless you are also using Deep Gash and/or Defiance.
Grim Promise is an interesting choice as well. I can see how that could work but I've always found I use Crescendo to finish a target that hasn't died to Flourish > Takedown > Restoring strike (so the damage resist is pointless). That said, if you switch Restoring Strike to Indomitable Battle Strike (for the AP gain) and do something like Flourish > Crescendo > Takedown > IBS that could be effective. Personally I'd switch Grim Promise for Grudge Style especially if you are taking Great Weapon Focus (@Dante).
Also Dante, I think you should definitely look into taking the Weapon Mastery feat. 3% crit that isn't subject to diminishing returns is too good to pass.
As for powers ggyu, I'd put points in Steel Grace and Steel Blitz. Take points out of Savage Advance, Battle Fury, Punishing Charge and, possibly Come and Get It (no feat synergy in your build and it's not a great power to begin with). Steel Grace is amazing in PvP (if opposition is CC heavy). You may not using it very often, as Bravery and Weapon Master work very well for Sentinel, but it's nice to have the option. Steel Blitz will up your damage when you PvE.
PvP is ultimately about burst damage and counter-burst damage. If you build around maximizing your damage per cooldown and are able to limit your opponents' damage per cooldown, you'll be in a good spot.
Will first i think about unstoppable used when it full bared to give 16% more hp and 50% damage res
Second Fast runner is way better than Armor Specialization ,try to remove Armor Specialization and you will see it won't change much in your defens stats ,i think it kinda bugged ,i already tired it and without it in test server and it like no big different
Will I use Savage Advance it nice to hunt down running people ,trust me with nice damage
Pushing charge is way better in run stuff and batte of furry is nice skill in refill Shift for run in care race build with migity lap
Come and get it with Daring marked nice to take tank from other people in dung
And i believe while i remove Weapon master and Bravey make nice mix in pvp crit,deflect and run speed
Steel grace dec 30% only ?? mean it weak and why use it while you got unstoppable ??
Destoyer and Weapon master make nice build for pve ,atleast destoyer is more usefull in dung number
Regarding Armor Spec - it does exactly as advertised for me. Makes a noticeable improvement to survivability in PvE and PvP.
Even with feats in Powerful Challenge and Intimidation I find I can't do enough threat to hold agro when running with an equivalently geared group. CaGI was the last ability I suggest you chop points anyway.
Steel Blitz is far superior to Destroyer. It procs a lot and works even if you are hitting one target.
Regarding your use of Unstoppable. NEVER let the a full bar determine when you use it. A full determination bar isn't much use if you are dead.
I don't run a human Sentinel GWF but if I did, this is how I'd set it up for PvP. I'd also experiment with putting points in Grit (Unstoppable Action) and Grim Promise (Grudge Style) as variations.
http://nwcalc.com/gwf?b=ixr:4zgu7:9whr,1fil33i:b5000:60000:bu551&h=1
Will you should check again Armor Spec- in Test server You will see that it not that make big different
Will Believe it or not with IBS and daring shoot Make me drag alot of mobs from players in dung
Steel bltitz is nice skill ,But i like Destoyer more
Will if you make high damage with Restroing strick It can keep you up with Ustoppable
If you way were better, then why did you start complaining in the first place? No need to answer, but you might want to think about it.
Will did i say "my way is better" ??nope
I already change alot of things in my build ,But still there stuff i think it right ,like Decrease 10% mitin from traget against my Enounter or Heath by 5% on Unstoppable i choose Mition really
Clearly he is a lost cause and would rather cry and argue. Thanks to everyone trying to help him have a viable GWF. Sigh, I honestly fear for the future of this game because so many of the criers who want nerfs are like him. It is possible to have a viable GWF that would be good at PVE and PVP. The suggestions here are how players make GWFs a viable class. The PVP gear is not the best gear in the game and is basically the first level of epic gear for level 60.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)