fathomfulMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 207Bounty Hunter
edited August 2013
Bad is completely subjective.
Comparing a game that has been out for a month to a well established game that has been out for a year is pretty silly in my opinion no matter which side of things you are coming from.
More people like this game than dislike it.
I have said it tons of times the typical MMO fans that jump from game to game, zoom to max level, grab their BIS gear then flame out will not like this game.
This game is exceptional in regards to foundry, a 3d forgotten realm game, casual MMO.
Is there places to improve. Hell yeah there are plenty of places they can get better. I am not going to compare a game in its extreme infancy to games that have had multiple, multiple content releases.
No matter what the hardcore zoom through mad mad at the world MMO player is going to not like this game. They typically dont appreciate the content, the story, the journey... just the end game.
Ill let you in on a secret as well, they call complain about every single games end game. At the end of the day since they cant learn to apprciate the journey they never see the forest for the trees and are doomed to wander from game to game hating on each one.
Take it for what it is. If it doesnt suite you... well tell them why or leave. If it does....super! However dont just be derogatory angry little kids about it.
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fathomfulMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 207Bounty Hunter
What if people that fled Germany before and during world war 2 didn't complain against Hitler and nazism? Less people would know about what was going on, how bad it was, and what could be done to fix the problem.
For the other analogy, If I bought a Camaro, and it turned out that I didn't like it, I wouldn't go on the forums flaming unless the car was junk. If I had reason to call Chevrolet out about their bad product, I would go on the Camaro forums and tell everyone. Then, the company might start making better cars.
Now, not all of the people that quit are looking at these forums to be informative. Some just dislike the game, and would like everyone to know. They also have a good reason. This company (PW) is ruining a great ip. D&D isn't this. If I wanted this, I would go play Diablo or Dynasty warriors.
And don't call others illogical for no reason. That's just you trying to use a "big word". Silly? Really? Because you don't agree, and are satisfied with a single player game with an mmo tag?
Blind complaining is illogical. It serves absolutely no purpose. There is never a reason period in a gaming forum to not be constructive with your feedback wether its positive or negative.
It is just a silly emotional and yes... illogical response.
There have been plenty of people in this thread that do not like the game and have stated very eloquent and valid reason on why not. That is not illogical, its exactly the right thing to do.
My point in my statement was that i dont understand why gamers will go out of their way to try and "destroy" a game they dont like. It is like they feel betrayed or abandoned or marginalized.
That same behavior doesnt happen with other products it seems. My analogy works. If I was able to drive a free camaro and i didnt like the seats or the horsepower i would not hound the people that do like it. I would not blast the forums with tons of negativity.
I can validate a little bit of that with a game you paid for, but a free game it is even sillier.
I fall into this category. I log in for prayers and crafting only really. It isn't because the game is "bad", but I was more interested in the companion system (which admittedly is disappointing) and pvp. The pvp just isn't doing much for me at the moment, and the dungeons do get pretty old fast.
This is a good game...just doesn't have the longevity someone like me is looking for. And while it's a dead horse, the cashshop greed vs reward is incredibly unappealing. Spent 40$ so far, but won't be spending anymore because of the poor quality of customer satisfaction I felt.
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jihancritiasMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Ha! love the hey you're closeminded because you dont agree with me argument.
It is delicious irony.
Face it. More people like this game than dislike it. You may be a majority on a forum where only a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the playerbase is a part of, but in the real world playing the game you are vastly outnumbered.
If you are going to use the whole there are more of us than there are of you against people you really need to work your math a little better lol.
Of course more people like this game than dislike it. It's a free game, meaning they get many new people daily. There are also tons of people quitting because they realize how boring the game really is.
You're talking about a tiny fraction of the playerbase on the forums. Are you not reading this thread? That tiny fraction isn't logging in to play the game. They are logging in to pray, set pointless tradeskills, and leave. If every player posted in this thread, every player with at least a level 45 toon, do you really think it would swing in favor of how great the game is? I seriously doubt it. More than likely the thread would shutdown due to so many people complaining about this game. And how about those that quit the game and don't bother posting anymore? Blind.
TL : DR? Then don't waste my time responding.
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fathomfulMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 207Bounty Hunter
Of course more people like this game than dislike it. It's a free game, meaning they get many new people daily. There are also tons of people quitting because they realize how boring the game really is.
You're talking about a tiny fraction of the playerbase on the forums. Are you not reading this thread? That tiny fraction isn't logging in to play the game. They are logging in to pray, set pointless tradeskills, and leave. If every player posted in this thread, every player with at least a level 45 toon, do you really think it would swing in favor of how great the game is? I seriously doubt it. More than likely the thread would shutdown due to so many people complaining about this game. And how about those that quit the game and don't bother posting anymore? Blind.
Right a tiny fraction.
So far this thread has proven that .0005% of the playerbase represented in this thread is bored and not playing much anymore and that .0003% of the playerbase represented in this thread does enjoy the game and continues to play.
Listen lets just agree to disagree. You think the game is failing thats fair. I think its not failing. Thats fair as well.
Now if you excuse me i have to go meet my new guildies. Our guild has expanded past the 180 mark and is growing each day. No alts either only mains.
I apologize i cannot empathize with your sentiments. I enjoy the game and see it expanding in both content and playerbase on a daily basis.
Cheers! Hope you posters find the game you are looking for, or that you come back in the future! Great talking with you guys!
So far this thread has proven that .0005% of the playerbase represented in this thread is bored and not playing much anymore and that .0003% of the playerbase represented in this thread does enjoy the game and continues to play.
'Proven' ??? Were does your figure '0.0005% of the playerbase represented in this thread' come from ?? Are you seriously basing this on the so called claimed '2 million unique players' figure, seriously ???
Thanks i have never laughed so much in all my life..
In all honesty Jihancritias's previous post is more the reality and it is shown in a high amount of the posts in this thread, apart from the odd few 'blind' trolls in this thread all say the same thing and give the exact same reasons, that is fact, not a fictitious number...
Bear in mind also this thread is only 2 days old and already at 10 pages... kind of speaks for itself
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brendan03usMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
It's good to have feedback threads.
But in every single MMO there are threads with complaints -- that is normal. You can't judge the health of a game by them, because they are present in every game. When WoW was released in Nov 2004, the first threads like this popped up in mid-December. I vividly remember one guy who was saying that the game was World of Failcraft, had a terrible endgame, and no-one would be playing in three months because there isn't much to do at endgame and it's boring and easy. Of course that was wrong, but it was said, and not just by one person.
The reality of MMOs, outside of the singular success of WoW, and the near-monopoly status that EQ had at the beginning, is that in pretty much every other game, people come, play, level, get bored, and leave. What remains are the fans of the game and newcomers, which are facilitated more when the game is, or converts to (as pretty much every sub mmo has done other than Big Momma), F2P of some sort. Pretty much no MMO retains a huge number of people for the long term other than the one exception. It's just how it is. We know it. And the devs know it. So while there is always a good interest at launch, there is also always a big drop off a month or two after. GW2 was no different -- I was there a year ago. Neither was TSW, TOR, WAR, etc. All of them. Big buildup, rush at launch/open beta, people play it through, mess around a bit with endgame which is always sparse in a new game, get bored, and leave, writing posts like this one. It happens in. every. single. MMO.
So, it's all good. Not every game is everyone's cup of tea. But the pattern here is no different from any other MMO I have played since 2004, when the MMO playerbase and market changed forever.
Great Post Brendan03us, and i agree totaly, a drop in number is the 'norm' But i wont go into that ongoing debate which is on another thread at presant.
What alot of people and more the obvious trolls are missing is the original OP's question and the whole point of this thread:
"Does anyone else only login to pray and refresh tradeskill actions?"
Great argument there. You're wrong dude. Get over it.
Original, mainstream mmo's offered more dungeons, raids, housing, SANDBOX, subscriptions, and on and on. This game is completely linear, like a single player game, no exploration to be done, no sub-they weren't money grubbing games, more classes, more races, etc. From what I hear, GW2 at least has more exploration, classes, races, upcoming player housing, pvp that doesn't suck, should I go on?
It seems you are the one with the ignorant statement, without even trying to back up what you say. I haven't read further posts, but I don't need to, to know you are blind with loyalty to a bad game.
Even ToR that was a kinda linear game had tons more of exploration options, mostly in the way of puzzles to get to all the data/holocrons. It was a game within the game. Also even though they had a limited BG system, the BGs looked interesting and they had more than 1 game mode. They had rush, domination, ctf and later on a domination/rush hybrid some time before I quit. Huttball must have been the best and most hilarious BG ever made. Even if you lost you could have a good laugh due to HAMSTER up in fires or getting pushed into acid pools. BGs were also balanced, no room for PvE heroes really due to a very smart PvP gear/stat setup that benefitted the PvP geared player more for having the correct gear.
GW2 took it a step further, no gear dependance or tier difference in BG gear. It is all up to the player to get the right stat combo for their spec to work, it all comes down to player skill. Balance in NW is non exsistant in BGs.
Atleast PWE/Cryptic realized the current TR nerf was too much and changed the nerfs into proper balanced nerfs (for once), it actually felt like they listened to the sensible part of the TR community that gave them ideas on what to change, like nerfing CoS charges to 8 and nerfing LA from 60 to 25% instead of making it a crit sev buff. They also skipped the idea with at-wills eating stealth. Since really, CoS was the issue, not attacking from stealth within melee range.
I want to see this game live on and succeed, but they have alot of work to do to reach that goal.
PvP
-More BGs
-Bigger teams in BGs 8, 12, 15, 20, 30, 40
-More game modes, ctf, rush, AV style, SotA style, IoC style and more.
-PvP gear and PvP chants, soulbound of course, anything to make obts less attractive.
-Foundry designed PvP maps and gamemodes
PvE
-Less add swamping boss fights, a rework of all old dungeon bosses maybe, give them real mechanics.
-More Paragon paths
-Bigger zones, make them atleast the size of 5 or 6 of the current zones. More open zones, no more strict paths to get from A to B. This is much needed once you get the mount.
-Better foundry system that can be used to make anything from solo missions up to 5 man elite missions, would be nice to see solo elite missions too.
Thats some of the things I'd like to see in game.
Oh and yeah, stop nerfing, buff the classes that needs it instead and tweak PvE if needed to match the new preformance of buffed classes, no one likes to see their class nerfed.
More pvp maps.
More dungeons and skirmish (that should be useful for end game too)
More builds (paragon paths)
More classes.
PVP area free (maybe were you can gather resources and kill people who are doing the same).
Make professions a bit more useful.
Don't make mounts cost all this money because GG and dominion are no ptw. At least put a only pvp mount that you can buy with glory.
It seems I have become that troll that leaves the game but does not leave the forums. I always wondered why people do that and atleast in my case is because I still have hope. I think once hope is gone they stop posting unless they are out for a fight. I don't see the purpose of that. I still post and read posts because logging on and running around in game makes me sad about the state of the game. I come on the forums to hope maybe get some news (on a new class... ranger I hope) or read the patch notes to see what they improved/fixed.
All this talk about this game sucks and this game is awesome... I suppose it can't be avoided. People don't try to argue another person's opinion. You can discuss and present how you "feel" but to say you are wrong and I am right in a purely subjective topic is truly ridiculous. State your opinion and don't get mad if people disagree. Discussion not argumentation.
Foundry: People who love the foundry (I think those people are myth) and say it is the "core" of the game and what sets this game apart from other games and how it is the "essence" of DnD. First, it is harder for me to find people in game to do foundry than it is for me as a GWF to find a group willing to let me go into CN with them. And if you played the game, you know what an insane proposition that is. Second, it is and never will be a core of the game. A person posted it already. The loot is so bad (although if you are short on gold there is not better way to go then to spam Arena) and the lack of a true boss really limits it to just seeing scenery. In any MMO the "core" is loot or "rewards". We live in USA where from age 1 you are taught the world is a meritocracy. For better or for worse we have all been brainwashed. No one wants to dig a ditch and fill it, but give us a cookie and hell I will do that for 40 hours a week for 40 years and then retire and miss digging that ditch. The foundry offer no real "rewards" for the vast majority. Therefore it fails. Finally; to compare the foundry to creating your own module and running it like in DnD is so wrong that only way anyone could compare the two is if you have never played DnD. Pen and Paper is about interaction and socializing among friends and as a effect we level up our characters. The characters are really just a mechanism, much like watching a good movie together or going to a sports game or a party. Foundry has none of that.
Again, I do think the game has potential. The boss fights have to be better. Right now they are a complete joke. People who think NW is hard really makes me sad. I blame WoW. I don't know why I just do. What kind of a boss fight do I imagine?
How about this:
1. Have traps that spawn that would be devastating so that a TR can do something other than dps the boss.
2. Have a boss that is immune to melee at times and other time immune to magic so different classes have to rotate dps.
3. Or spawn mini-bosses that can only be killed via a certain damage type and you must kill those before the boss.
4. Have a puzzle running tandem with the fight where a player has to do the puzzle to progress the fight. (That way a GWF can go)
5. Have specific dailies required to progress the fight. Something like announcing, "The boss has been hit in the head and his hearing seems to be sensitive" and someone shouting stuns him.
So many things they can do. The boss fights and the PVP map just lacks "effort" on their part. They worked hard on the fight mechanic and the scenery that I think they thought that would carry them through, but for me it just doesn't.
I hope it changes but with FFXIV arr coming out... and then EoS and then Destiny and then EverquestNext... like people have said, competition. Maybe I am expecting too much to think they would compare with those upcoming games, but this is DnD for freaks sake! Nothing is bigger than DnD in the fantasy genre. NOTHING!
Blind complaining is illogical. It serves absolutely no purpose. There is never a reason period in a gaming forum to not be constructive with your feedback wether its positive or negative.
It is just a silly emotional and yes... illogical response.
There have been plenty of people in this thread that do not like the game and have stated very eloquent and valid reason on why not. That is not illogical, its exactly the right thing to do.
My point in my statement was that i dont understand why gamers will go out of their way to try and "destroy" a game they dont like. It is like they feel betrayed or abandoned or marginalized.
That same behavior doesnt happen with other products it seems. My analogy works. If I was able to drive a free camaro and i didnt like the seats or the horsepower i would not hound the people that do like it. I would not blast the forums with tons of negativity.
I can validate a little bit of that with a game you paid for, but a free game it is even sillier.
Ok but maybe you have touched on a nerve here, Yes game is Free to play, if you wish to play like that, but as most actually state in there comments they have PAID for items in game, mounts, packs etc etc, ( and some who have paid and never recieved anything as yet too) , this now changes the whole scenario, they have a perfect right now to voice there opinions and complaints to either the service they recieved or the items they recieved.
i think the majority and i personaly did not mind investing in the game at the start as it did have so much potential, and statements were made as to how the game would improve, including subtle hints of new classes, etc etc, which never materialised and alas as we all know the game as gone off in a slightly different direction, and alot of things even from beta have still not even been addressed let alone fixed.
I would wager that over 50% of the players have at some point in time spent some 'real' cash on this game, wether it be 1 dollar or 200 dollars, some i know for a fact have spent a whole lot more. This is more than likley to show there support for the game and hope their purchases go towards keeping the game alive and moving forward at a decent rate.
If this game had no Zen shop, THEN and only THEN would it realy be free to play, no game is ever and will ever be completly free to play, one way or another some of the players do pay for the games
I do the same as OP.
I don't like the "here, have some more adds" mechanic of most boss fights in Neverwinter and because the Zen store is so expensive, I found Rift to give me more bang for my buck.
I want to like this game more than all of the other games I play because of the D&D logo, but I'm having a hard time liking it as it is.
Meanwhile, I just look at the forums everyday and log in only when its convenient to see if any guildies need my 60 GF for a dungeon run.
Thinking of dwlding Rift again... hows the F2P going? I am a (whatever name they use for one who was a sub over a yr) and hope my toons are still there...
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Sir, were now surrounded"!
Thats great news son, now we can attack from ALL sides"!
Thinking of dwlding Rift again... hows the F2P going? I am a (whatever name they use for one who was a sub over a yr) and hope my toons are still there...
I have heard from many friends and guidies and even in zone chat alot of peopel have actually gone back. or have moved onto Rift latley.
I do also admit i have seriously thought about it, i have registered and downloaded the game to hopefully rejoin alot of my old guild friends and members from here, but as yet have never logged in as i do have a glimmer of hope for this game still left in me , although that is fading very fast.. but i do still have hope
Originally Posted by fathomful View Post
Do you really think that you may be the only person that does this?
Are you wanting to start a "Hey i dont really play a lot" club?
Are you looking for some sort of emotional support for your actions?
Whats the point of your thread? I am genuinely curious.
seems your the only one taking offense to this post as there are a lot of people who agree and do the same. My question is why are you against this post?
I stopped even the log in to pray. Without a dramatic change this game will be doomed (in my humble opinion, but i decide how to put my money and time).
So i decided to join gw2. And believe me, the amount of complain you see in this forum by customers is much more than the amount you can see even in LOL forum.
By the way, even if this game is "ftp" i think that at least founders should be respected. They paid even before this game was out of beta. I think it's crazy, but they deserve more respect from criptyc. I think that they bought something without real value.
I've been logging in to just pray and refresh tradeskills since I was level 58. I'm now 60 from just doing these 2 things. I too am giving Rift a try and so far I'm finding it funner. The items in Rift seem more attainable to me. It seems that I get more bang for my buck but then again, this is just my perception.
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Comparing a game that has been out for a month to a well established game that has been out for a year is pretty silly in my opinion no matter which side of things you are coming from.
More people like this game than dislike it.
I have said it tons of times the typical MMO fans that jump from game to game, zoom to max level, grab their BIS gear then flame out will not like this game.
This game is exceptional in regards to foundry, a 3d forgotten realm game, casual MMO.
Is there places to improve. Hell yeah there are plenty of places they can get better. I am not going to compare a game in its extreme infancy to games that have had multiple, multiple content releases.
No matter what the hardcore zoom through mad mad at the world MMO player is going to not like this game. They typically dont appreciate the content, the story, the journey... just the end game.
Ill let you in on a secret as well, they call complain about every single games end game. At the end of the day since they cant learn to apprciate the journey they never see the forest for the trees and are doomed to wander from game to game hating on each one.
Take it for what it is. If it doesnt suite you... well tell them why or leave. If it does....super! However dont just be derogatory angry little kids about it.
Blind complaining is illogical. It serves absolutely no purpose. There is never a reason period in a gaming forum to not be constructive with your feedback wether its positive or negative.
It is just a silly emotional and yes... illogical response.
There have been plenty of people in this thread that do not like the game and have stated very eloquent and valid reason on why not. That is not illogical, its exactly the right thing to do.
My point in my statement was that i dont understand why gamers will go out of their way to try and "destroy" a game they dont like. It is like they feel betrayed or abandoned or marginalized.
That same behavior doesnt happen with other products it seems. My analogy works. If I was able to drive a free camaro and i didnt like the seats or the horsepower i would not hound the people that do like it. I would not blast the forums with tons of negativity.
I can validate a little bit of that with a game you paid for, but a free game it is even sillier.
This is a good game...just doesn't have the longevity someone like me is looking for. And while it's a dead horse, the cashshop greed vs reward is incredibly unappealing. Spent 40$ so far, but won't be spending anymore because of the poor quality of customer satisfaction I felt.
Of course more people like this game than dislike it. It's a free game, meaning they get many new people daily. There are also tons of people quitting because they realize how boring the game really is.
You're talking about a tiny fraction of the playerbase on the forums. Are you not reading this thread? That tiny fraction isn't logging in to play the game. They are logging in to pray, set pointless tradeskills, and leave. If every player posted in this thread, every player with at least a level 45 toon, do you really think it would swing in favor of how great the game is? I seriously doubt it. More than likely the thread would shutdown due to so many people complaining about this game. And how about those that quit the game and don't bother posting anymore? Blind.
Right a tiny fraction.
So far this thread has proven that .0005% of the playerbase represented in this thread is bored and not playing much anymore and that .0003% of the playerbase represented in this thread does enjoy the game and continues to play.
Listen lets just agree to disagree. You think the game is failing thats fair. I think its not failing. Thats fair as well.
Now if you excuse me i have to go meet my new guildies. Our guild has expanded past the 180 mark and is growing each day. No alts either only mains.
I apologize i cannot empathize with your sentiments. I enjoy the game and see it expanding in both content and playerbase on a daily basis.
Cheers! Hope you posters find the game you are looking for, or that you come back in the future! Great talking with you guys!
'Proven' ??? Were does your figure '0.0005% of the playerbase represented in this thread' come from ?? Are you seriously basing this on the so called claimed '2 million unique players' figure, seriously ???
Thanks i have never laughed so much in all my life..
In all honesty Jihancritias's previous post is more the reality and it is shown in a high amount of the posts in this thread, apart from the odd few 'blind' trolls in this thread all say the same thing and give the exact same reasons, that is fact, not a fictitious number...
Bear in mind also this thread is only 2 days old and already at 10 pages... kind of speaks for itself
But in every single MMO there are threads with complaints -- that is normal. You can't judge the health of a game by them, because they are present in every game. When WoW was released in Nov 2004, the first threads like this popped up in mid-December. I vividly remember one guy who was saying that the game was World of Failcraft, had a terrible endgame, and no-one would be playing in three months because there isn't much to do at endgame and it's boring and easy. Of course that was wrong, but it was said, and not just by one person.
The reality of MMOs, outside of the singular success of WoW, and the near-monopoly status that EQ had at the beginning, is that in pretty much every other game, people come, play, level, get bored, and leave. What remains are the fans of the game and newcomers, which are facilitated more when the game is, or converts to (as pretty much every sub mmo has done other than Big Momma), F2P of some sort. Pretty much no MMO retains a huge number of people for the long term other than the one exception. It's just how it is. We know it. And the devs know it. So while there is always a good interest at launch, there is also always a big drop off a month or two after. GW2 was no different -- I was there a year ago. Neither was TSW, TOR, WAR, etc. All of them. Big buildup, rush at launch/open beta, people play it through, mess around a bit with endgame which is always sparse in a new game, get bored, and leave, writing posts like this one. It happens in. every. single. MMO.
So, it's all good. Not every game is everyone's cup of tea. But the pattern here is no different from any other MMO I have played since 2004, when the MMO playerbase and market changed forever.
What alot of people and more the obvious trolls are missing is the original OP's question and the whole point of this thread:
"Does anyone else only login to pray and refresh tradeskill actions?"
the longest I have played this game since I reached 60 in a week...was farm the gift boxes last weekend in the farmy foundry missions.
now its just back to just doing tradeskills then log off again.
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Even ToR that was a kinda linear game had tons more of exploration options, mostly in the way of puzzles to get to all the data/holocrons. It was a game within the game. Also even though they had a limited BG system, the BGs looked interesting and they had more than 1 game mode. They had rush, domination, ctf and later on a domination/rush hybrid some time before I quit. Huttball must have been the best and most hilarious BG ever made. Even if you lost you could have a good laugh due to HAMSTER up in fires or getting pushed into acid pools. BGs were also balanced, no room for PvE heroes really due to a very smart PvP gear/stat setup that benefitted the PvP geared player more for having the correct gear.
GW2 took it a step further, no gear dependance or tier difference in BG gear. It is all up to the player to get the right stat combo for their spec to work, it all comes down to player skill. Balance in NW is non exsistant in BGs.
Atleast PWE/Cryptic realized the current TR nerf was too much and changed the nerfs into proper balanced nerfs (for once), it actually felt like they listened to the sensible part of the TR community that gave them ideas on what to change, like nerfing CoS charges to 8 and nerfing LA from 60 to 25% instead of making it a crit sev buff. They also skipped the idea with at-wills eating stealth. Since really, CoS was the issue, not attacking from stealth within melee range.
I want to see this game live on and succeed, but they have alot of work to do to reach that goal.
PvP
-More BGs
-Bigger teams in BGs 8, 12, 15, 20, 30, 40
-More game modes, ctf, rush, AV style, SotA style, IoC style and more.
-PvP gear and PvP chants, soulbound of course, anything to make obts less attractive.
-Foundry designed PvP maps and gamemodes
PvE
-Less add swamping boss fights, a rework of all old dungeon bosses maybe, give them real mechanics.
-More Paragon paths
-Bigger zones, make them atleast the size of 5 or 6 of the current zones. More open zones, no more strict paths to get from A to B. This is much needed once you get the mount.
-Better foundry system that can be used to make anything from solo missions up to 5 man elite missions, would be nice to see solo elite missions too.
Thats some of the things I'd like to see in game.
Oh and yeah, stop nerfing, buff the classes that needs it instead and tweak PvE if needed to match the new preformance of buffed classes, no one likes to see their class nerfed.
More dungeons and skirmish (that should be useful for end game too)
More builds (paragon paths)
More classes.
PVP area free (maybe were you can gather resources and kill people who are doing the same).
Make professions a bit more useful.
Don't make mounts cost all this money because GG and dominion are no ptw. At least put a only pvp mount that you can buy with glory.
It seems I have become that troll that leaves the game but does not leave the forums. I always wondered why people do that and atleast in my case is because I still have hope. I think once hope is gone they stop posting unless they are out for a fight. I don't see the purpose of that. I still post and read posts because logging on and running around in game makes me sad about the state of the game. I come on the forums to hope maybe get some news (on a new class... ranger I hope) or read the patch notes to see what they improved/fixed.
All this talk about this game sucks and this game is awesome... I suppose it can't be avoided. People don't try to argue another person's opinion. You can discuss and present how you "feel" but to say you are wrong and I am right in a purely subjective topic is truly ridiculous. State your opinion and don't get mad if people disagree. Discussion not argumentation.
Foundry: People who love the foundry (I think those people are myth) and say it is the "core" of the game and what sets this game apart from other games and how it is the "essence" of DnD. First, it is harder for me to find people in game to do foundry than it is for me as a GWF to find a group willing to let me go into CN with them. And if you played the game, you know what an insane proposition that is. Second, it is and never will be a core of the game. A person posted it already. The loot is so bad (although if you are short on gold there is not better way to go then to spam Arena) and the lack of a true boss really limits it to just seeing scenery. In any MMO the "core" is loot or "rewards". We live in USA where from age 1 you are taught the world is a meritocracy. For better or for worse we have all been brainwashed. No one wants to dig a ditch and fill it, but give us a cookie and hell I will do that for 40 hours a week for 40 years and then retire and miss digging that ditch. The foundry offer no real "rewards" for the vast majority. Therefore it fails. Finally; to compare the foundry to creating your own module and running it like in DnD is so wrong that only way anyone could compare the two is if you have never played DnD. Pen and Paper is about interaction and socializing among friends and as a effect we level up our characters. The characters are really just a mechanism, much like watching a good movie together or going to a sports game or a party. Foundry has none of that.
Again, I do think the game has potential. The boss fights have to be better. Right now they are a complete joke. People who think NW is hard really makes me sad. I blame WoW. I don't know why I just do. What kind of a boss fight do I imagine?
How about this:
1. Have traps that spawn that would be devastating so that a TR can do something other than dps the boss.
2. Have a boss that is immune to melee at times and other time immune to magic so different classes have to rotate dps.
3. Or spawn mini-bosses that can only be killed via a certain damage type and you must kill those before the boss.
4. Have a puzzle running tandem with the fight where a player has to do the puzzle to progress the fight. (That way a GWF can go)
5. Have specific dailies required to progress the fight. Something like announcing, "The boss has been hit in the head and his hearing seems to be sensitive" and someone shouting stuns him.
So many things they can do. The boss fights and the PVP map just lacks "effort" on their part. They worked hard on the fight mechanic and the scenery that I think they thought that would carry them through, but for me it just doesn't.
I hope it changes but with FFXIV arr coming out... and then EoS and then Destiny and then EverquestNext... like people have said, competition. Maybe I am expecting too much to think they would compare with those upcoming games, but this is DnD for freaks sake! Nothing is bigger than DnD in the fantasy genre. NOTHING!
Ok but maybe you have touched on a nerve here, Yes game is Free to play, if you wish to play like that, but as most actually state in there comments they have PAID for items in game, mounts, packs etc etc, ( and some who have paid and never recieved anything as yet too) , this now changes the whole scenario, they have a perfect right now to voice there opinions and complaints to either the service they recieved or the items they recieved.
i think the majority and i personaly did not mind investing in the game at the start as it did have so much potential, and statements were made as to how the game would improve, including subtle hints of new classes, etc etc, which never materialised and alas as we all know the game as gone off in a slightly different direction, and alot of things even from beta have still not even been addressed let alone fixed.
I would wager that over 50% of the players have at some point in time spent some 'real' cash on this game, wether it be 1 dollar or 200 dollars, some i know for a fact have spent a whole lot more. This is more than likley to show there support for the game and hope their purchases go towards keeping the game alive and moving forward at a decent rate.
If this game had no Zen shop, THEN and only THEN would it realy be free to play, no game is ever and will ever be completly free to play, one way or another some of the players do pay for the games
Thinking of dwlding Rift again... hows the F2P going? I am a (whatever name they use for one who was a sub over a yr) and hope my toons are still there...
"Sir, were now surrounded"!
Thats great news son, now we can attack from ALL sides"!
I have heard from many friends and guidies and even in zone chat alot of peopel have actually gone back. or have moved onto Rift latley.
I do also admit i have seriously thought about it, i have registered and downloaded the game to hopefully rejoin alot of my old guild friends and members from here, but as yet have never logged in as i do have a glimmer of hope for this game still left in me , although that is fading very fast.. but i do still have hope
seems your the only one taking offense to this post as there are a lot of people who agree and do the same. My question is why are you against this post?
So i decided to join gw2. And believe me, the amount of complain you see in this forum by customers is much more than the amount you can see even in LOL forum.
By the way, even if this game is "ftp" i think that at least founders should be respected. They paid even before this game was out of beta. I think it's crazy, but they deserve more respect from criptyc. I think that they bought something without real value.