I am now playing at Level 60 with my Great Weapons Fighter in some of the last zones in the Story Missions. I find that I now tend to attract Clerics on occasion who follow me around the zones, sometimes for quite a while. They generally don't speak, even when spoken to. They don't tend to even try to pick up any drops. They do participate in fights, healing and damaging fairly well. They seem to be trying to get the numbers on the "Kill X Number Of Critters" missions and "Collect Y Numbers Of Dodads" quests. Is this a common tactic for partyless level 60 squishies or am I running into bots looking for Nodes? Or are they just a bit shy?
'Wen considered the nature of time and understood that the universe is, instant by instant, recreated anew. Therefore, he understood, there is in truth no past, only a memory of the past. Blink your eyes, and the world you see next did not exist when you closed them. Therefore, he said, the only appropriate state of the mind is surprise. The only appropriate state of the heart is joy. The sky you see now, you have never seen before. The perfect moment is now. Be glad of it.' Terry Pratchet The Thief Of Time
shadowycanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2013
A few die roll can solve that answer for you!
0
ambisinisterrMember, Neverwinter ModeratorPosts: 10,462Community Moderator
edited July 2013
Probably shy.
As a cleric I can tell you I still haven't done the Whispering Caverns Storylines because it is basically impossible as a solo cleric. I myself have tried to follow random people there to clear the path for me not because I am trying to leach but because the zone is just monstrous for me alone.
Also if you are speaking in Zone Chat expect to be ignored by large portions of the player base. My Zone Chat has been off since day one of Open Beta. Sad but true.
As a cleric I can tell you I still haven't done the Whispering Caverns Storylines because it is basically impossible as a solo cleric. I myself have tried to follow random people there to clear the path for me not because I am trying to leach but because the zone is just monstrous for me alone.
Also if you are speaking in Zone Chat expect to be ignored by large portions of the player base. My Zone Chat has been off since day one of Open Beta. Sad but true.
. . . . . Yeah, I rarely watch Zone Chat anymore either. I usually have my chat window set on my "Social" tab or my "Guild-Local" tab. Both of which are set to see Say and Emotes (as well as tells and certain system outputs) and the latter is also set up for Guild Chat. The only time I speak in Zone is when I am replying to someone's question I happened to see. Other than that, I only notice if I am talked to in either Say (Chat Bubbles too!), Guild, or Whisper (IM).
My son plays a GWF. He goes to low level zones on his level 38 and just follows people around. He helps with quests and just has fun. He doesn't type or respond. And he knows not to roll for loot if someone invites him to a group. So it could be someone's kid.
My GF was followed by a Cleric for almost all the map. When both returned to the campsite and I was about to leave the game for the real world I received a tell from him asking me to join a party with him. So he wasn't a bot after all
As a cleric I can tell you I still haven't done the Whispering Caverns Storylines because it is basically impossible as a solo cleric. I myself have tried to follow random people there to clear the path for me not because I am trying to leach but because the zone is just monstrous for me alone.
Also if you are speaking in Zone Chat expect to be ignored by large portions of the player base. My Zone Chat has been off since day one of Open Beta. Sad but true.
)=
I will be your friend
Not hitting on you
Maybe a little
Just kidding
No I'm not
Yes I am
Hi
0
shadowycanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
As a cleric I can tell you I still haven't done the Whispering Caverns Storylines because it is basically impossible as a solo cleric. I myself have tried to follow random people there to clear the path for me not because I am trying to leach but because the zone is just monstrous for me alone.
Also if you are speaking in Zone Chat expect to be ignored by large portions of the player base. My Zone Chat has been off since day one of Open Beta. Sad but true.
:C I try to talk to people in Zone all the time, but they're all busy performing LFG spam.
Oops that sounds like me. When playing my cleric I often 'stalk' other players, just to get a quest completed. Playing a cleric is very, very hard, so please take pity on us and let us tag along.
As the others have said, I have all my chat options turned off too, so I don't see or respond to any chat. It's not because I'm trying to be rude, but I usually don't talk to my random 'friend' because I don't want to bother him. I figure if I keep quiet and don't get in his way, then he'll let me tag along with him
It's kind of sad that clerics have been reduced to the role of stalkers, but I just hope other players won't mind too much and will help us out when they can.
0
ambisinisterrMember, Neverwinter ModeratorPosts: 10,462Community Moderator
I figure if I keep quiet and don't get in his way, then he'll let me tag along with him
I haven't met a person yet who doesn't appreciate saving some potions.
I'm hoping the Whispering Caverns will be a bit more solo-cleric friendly after tomorrow's patch. I mean I don't have an overly hard time most times but it's extremely tedious at best and all the ranged attacks in Whipsering Caverns are brutal.
It's kind of sad that clerics have been reduced to the role of stalkers, but I just hope other players won't mind too much and will help us out when they can.
Now that you have mentioned it..Can we get a Restraining Order to protect us from them clerics?
I solo as a Cleric. I've completed the Whispering Caverns storylines. Admittedly I didn't do it alone as other people asked for my help. As for stalking other players, I don't do that sort of thing. I do heal any injured players I pass by though.
*sings* "I like Gammera! He's so neat!!! He is full of turtle meat!!!"
"Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
I seem to always see clerics running around just healing folks. I know I've been saved a few times from death by these roaming healers, so for that I say thanks
My first Foundry mission, The Valley of Darkness NW-DG9DOTZLU
I seem to always see clerics running around just healing folks. I know I've been saved a few times from death by these roaming healers, so for that I say thanks
Heh, I do that on my cleric whenever I see players fighting mobs. It it looks bad I pop in a heal and astral seal or two.
People walking around with some healthloss also get a heal once in a while. This isn't as altruistic as it may seem though, I'm building divinity
I'm just thinking when the Feywild is released, how many of those wondering clerics will go the fairy-god-parental-figure route and strut around on a unicorn healing people
I haven't met a person yet who doesn't appreciate saving some potions.
I'm hoping the Whispering Caverns will be a bit more solo-cleric friendly after tomorrow's patch. I mean I don't have an overly hard time most times but it's extremely tedious at best and all the ranged attacks in Whipsering Caverns are brutal.
i found it easiest so far to solo everything with cleric. and i have GWF, CW
As a cleric I can tell you I still haven't done the Whispering Caverns Storylines because it is basically impossible as a solo cleric.
Wow, it's a good job that I didn't know that when I blazed through this zone on my first character, a very poorly-geared heal-specced cleric. It wasn't hard, and enormous fun. Very basic MMO l2p tropes applied about pulling back, not running forward, and not aggroing more than you could handle, but even then it was pretty far from challenging.
It's a really fast source of XP too, that zone. There are so many quests stacked up on the same area, if you put in a minimal amount of effort, the last few levels fly past. I died a couple of times in the Wrathforge, but that way due to exuberance, and missing some of those rogue-style Mindflayers- my own fault.
No, it's not "basically impossible as a solo cleric", at all.
I don't want to be that guy but some of you are clearly playing the class wrong if you're having trouble soloing Whispering Caverns, or any other solo content for that matter.
Don't worry, the forums are overloaded with that guy. 'L2P' seems to be the default response for many. -_-
Whispering caverns is sometimes tougher than expected in places: if you get dogswarmed by those braindoggies (ustiligators?) you can go from full to 33% health in less than a second, and that's in an astral shield. I've not died yet, but I can imagine being out of dodges and getting temp-dazed by a mindflayer at the exact same time as being dogswarmed could easily be a campfire moment. It's certainly less challenging overall than the ebon downs were at 30, where I was hard-pressed to kill one gang of dudes before the last lot respawned. Oh, the trains of zombies I dragged back to the campfire...happy days.
Mind you, I'm using the exact same generic healbot skillset (SB/AS/FF) I've used since level 50 because I'm old and bad at handling change. It might be easier if I took some more deeps, but I think I'd miss the heals. Plus...see "old" above.
Don't worry, the forums are overloaded with that guy. 'L2P' seems to be the default response for many. -_-
Whispering caverns is sometimes tougher than expected in places: if you get dogswarmed by those braindoggies (ustiligators?) you can go from full to 33% health in less than a second, and that's in an astral shield. I've not died yet, but I can imagine being out of dodges and getting temp-dazed by a mindflayer at the exact same time as being dogswarmed could easily be a campfire moment. It's certainly less challenging overall than the ebon downs were at 30, where I was hard-pressed to kill one gang of dudes before the last lot respawned. Oh, the trains of zombies I dragged back to the campfire...happy days.
Mind you, I'm using the exact same generic healbot skillset (SB/AS/FF) I've used since level 50 because I'm old and bad at handling change. It might be easier if I took some more deeps, but I think I'd miss the heals. Plus...see "old" above.
I was actually about to edit my post because despite not wanting to be that guy, I was being that guy regardless.
Now that I think about it, everyone plays differently, everyone has different reaction times, different builds and powers, so for some it may be more challenging. My personal experience, however, was that I found it easier to solo content on my Cleric than any other class I played before it, and the amount of money I saved by not buying potions and kits was almost ridiculous.
Now that I think about it, everyone plays differently, everyone has different reaction times, different builds and powers, so for some it may be more challenging. My personal experience, however, was that I found it easier to solo content on my Cleric than any other class I played before it, and the amount of money I saved by not buying potions and kits was almost ridiculous.
The funny thing is that I found that pots dropped faster than I used them on DC, CW and GWF. With anything that wasn't my DC I took the free cleric pet, which saves a lot. With the cleric, I used a combination of self-healing and just abusing cc/AoE. Popping a healing word on your companion also heals you a bit, as memory serves. This makes life a lot easier. The game was very generous with buff potions too, and it's a wise idea just to quaff the lower-level ones as you go, as you'll soon see more powerful ones drop.
Whispering caverns is sometimes tougher than expected in places: if you get dogswarmed by those braindoggies (ustiligators?) you can go from full to 33% health in less than a second, and that's in an astral shield. I've not died yet, but I can imagine being out of dodges and getting temp-dazed by a mindflayer at the exact same time as being dogswarmed could easily be a campfire moment.
A lot of folks seem to have a hard time getting out of the mindset where they're shocked at dying. I know it took me a while- but the penalties in this game are really mild, as there is no durability damage or similar to worry about- it just costs you a single kit. I actually think suspect that the risk/reward balance favours you being a little gung-ho sometimes.
Say thanks in chat next time this happens. As a cleric I never had a need to party with anyone because I was over-leveled for every area and dinged 60 somewhere in Rothe Valley (before things really get hard maybe?). But all the time as I wandered through areas if I saw someone close to death I would drop from horse and drop down a bunch of heals for them and then go back to doing what I was doing. Very very rarely does anyone ever say thank you in chat. I'm not doing it for the recognition, but still, it never hurts to just say thanks. Recently I've been leveling my cat through Hotenow and Whispering Caverns as a highly geared 60 Cleric and I've dropped tons of heals on people close to death (they must be hard areas) and almost never gotten a "thanks!".
I've stuck blue astral shields down on people close to dying only to have them run out of them and accuse me of killstealing (and this is from level 60s!). On the other hand, I get a fair share of 'thanks' too. Takes all kinds.
Say thanks in chat next time this happens. As a cleric I never had a need to party with anyone because I was over-leveled for every area and dinged 60 somewhere in Rothe Valley (before things really get hard maybe?). But all the time as I wandered through areas if I saw someone close to death I would drop from horse and drop down a bunch of heals for them and then go back to doing what I was doing. Very very rarely does anyone ever say thank you in chat. I'm not doing it for the recognition, but still, it never hurts to just say thanks. Recently I've been leveling my cat through Hotenow and Whispering Caverns as a highly geared 60 Cleric and I've dropped tons of heals on people close to death (they must be hard areas) and almost never gotten a "thanks!".
I always say thank you when I can, but sometimes I'm in zone chat or group chat and mistype, combine that with being busy fighting and often times the cleric is gone before I have a chance to thank them. So its not always on purpose.
Mind you, I CERTAINLY wasn't complaining about my new friend. I was mostly just puzzled by their lack of response to Zone Chat. I make it my policy to always talk to someone in Zone for at least a little bit before asking them to Join a Party (saves a LOT of headaches) and got no reaction, not even to a quick "Thanks for the heals!".
'Wen considered the nature of time and understood that the universe is, instant by instant, recreated anew. Therefore, he understood, there is in truth no past, only a memory of the past. Blink your eyes, and the world you see next did not exist when you closed them. Therefore, he said, the only appropriate state of the mind is surprise. The only appropriate state of the heart is joy. The sky you see now, you have never seen before. The perfect moment is now. Be glad of it.' Terry Pratchet The Thief Of Time
My lvl 60 CW is pretty squishy but I regularly go back to Whispering Caverns just to keep in practice and in general I have no issues there...though there was that one time I got mobbed by two drow assassins, three warriors, two blade spiders and a Drider...that was...kind of unmanageable...
But yeah I tended to stalk a bit in the upper levels on my Cleric...especially when doing things like the Generals in Hotenow...I'd wait for someone else to come along and then help them out. I have zone chat open but hardly ever pay any attention to it while questing.
Just a note to the OP, you wouldn't see them go for any drops as your drops are your drops. They don't see yours and you wouldn't see them picking up theirs.
Comments
As a cleric I can tell you I still haven't done the Whispering Caverns Storylines because it is basically impossible as a solo cleric. I myself have tried to follow random people there to clear the path for me not because I am trying to leach but because the zone is just monstrous for me alone.
Also if you are speaking in Zone Chat expect to be ignored by large portions of the player base. My Zone Chat has been off since day one of Open Beta. Sad but true.
[ Support Center • Rules & Policies and Guidelines • ARC ToS • Guild Recruitment Guidelines | FR DM Since 1993 ]
You still get credit for tagging mobs & your own set of drops if they aren't partied with you.
)=
I will be your friend
Not hitting on you
Maybe a little
Just kidding
No I'm not
Yes I am
Hi
As the others have said, I have all my chat options turned off too, so I don't see or respond to any chat. It's not because I'm trying to be rude, but I usually don't talk to my random 'friend' because I don't want to bother him. I figure if I keep quiet and don't get in his way, then he'll let me tag along with him
It's kind of sad that clerics have been reduced to the role of stalkers, but I just hope other players won't mind too much and will help us out when they can.
I haven't met a person yet who doesn't appreciate saving some potions.
I'm hoping the Whispering Caverns will be a bit more solo-cleric friendly after tomorrow's patch. I mean I don't have an overly hard time most times but it's extremely tedious at best and all the ranged attacks in Whipsering Caverns are brutal.
"Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
My first Foundry mission, The Valley of Darkness NW-DG9DOTZLU
Heh, I do that on my cleric whenever I see players fighting mobs. It it looks bad I pop in a heal and astral seal or two.
People walking around with some healthloss also get a heal once in a while. This isn't as altruistic as it may seem though, I'm building divinity
I'm just thinking when the Feywild is released, how many of those wondering clerics will go the fairy-god-parental-figure route and strut around on a unicorn healing people
i found it easiest so far to solo everything with cleric. and i have GWF, CW
Hogwash, there is nothing a cleric can't solo, and Caverns was as easy as the 15 zones before it. Put DPS abilities in your slots.
Wow, it's a good job that I didn't know that when I blazed through this zone on my first character, a very poorly-geared heal-specced cleric. It wasn't hard, and enormous fun. Very basic MMO l2p tropes applied about pulling back, not running forward, and not aggroing more than you could handle, but even then it was pretty far from challenging.
It's a really fast source of XP too, that zone. There are so many quests stacked up on the same area, if you put in a minimal amount of effort, the last few levels fly past. I died a couple of times in the Wrathforge, but that way due to exuberance, and missing some of those rogue-style Mindflayers- my own fault.
No, it's not "basically impossible as a solo cleric", at all.
Don't worry, the forums are overloaded with that guy. 'L2P' seems to be the default response for many. -_-
Whispering caverns is sometimes tougher than expected in places: if you get dogswarmed by those braindoggies (ustiligators?) you can go from full to 33% health in less than a second, and that's in an astral shield. I've not died yet, but I can imagine being out of dodges and getting temp-dazed by a mindflayer at the exact same time as being dogswarmed could easily be a campfire moment. It's certainly less challenging overall than the ebon downs were at 30, where I was hard-pressed to kill one gang of dudes before the last lot respawned. Oh, the trains of zombies I dragged back to the campfire...happy days.
Mind you, I'm using the exact same generic healbot skillset (SB/AS/FF) I've used since level 50 because I'm old and bad at handling change. It might be easier if I took some more deeps, but I think I'd miss the heals. Plus...see "old" above.
I was actually about to edit my post because despite not wanting to be that guy, I was being that guy regardless.
Now that I think about it, everyone plays differently, everyone has different reaction times, different builds and powers, so for some it may be more challenging. My personal experience, however, was that I found it easier to solo content on my Cleric than any other class I played before it, and the amount of money I saved by not buying potions and kits was almost ridiculous.
The funny thing is that I found that pots dropped faster than I used them on DC, CW and GWF. With anything that wasn't my DC I took the free cleric pet, which saves a lot. With the cleric, I used a combination of self-healing and just abusing cc/AoE. Popping a healing word on your companion also heals you a bit, as memory serves. This makes life a lot easier. The game was very generous with buff potions too, and it's a wise idea just to quaff the lower-level ones as you go, as you'll soon see more powerful ones drop.
A lot of folks seem to have a hard time getting out of the mindset where they're shocked at dying. I know it took me a while- but the penalties in this game are really mild, as there is no durability damage or similar to worry about- it just costs you a single kit. I actually think suspect that the risk/reward balance favours you being a little gung-ho sometimes.
I always say thank you when I can, but sometimes I'm in zone chat or group chat and mistype, combine that with being busy fighting and often times the cleric is gone before I have a chance to thank them. So its not always on purpose.
'Wen considered the nature of time and understood that the universe is, instant by instant, recreated anew. Therefore, he understood, there is in truth no past, only a memory of the past. Blink your eyes, and the world you see next did not exist when you closed them. Therefore, he said, the only appropriate state of the mind is surprise. The only appropriate state of the heart is joy. The sky you see now, you have never seen before. The perfect moment is now. Be glad of it.' Terry Pratchet The Thief Of Time
But yeah I tended to stalk a bit in the upper levels on my Cleric...especially when doing things like the Generals in Hotenow...I'd wait for someone else to come along and then help them out. I have zone chat open but hardly ever pay any attention to it while questing.
D&D Home Page - What Class Are You? - Build A Character - D&D Compendium