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  • judicasjudicas Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 156 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Ok, getting tired of the people stating l2p... yes i can pull out 15-17 million in dungeons, i can pull a lot more and CC with my CW, yes i can sort of tank but a GF does it 10 times better. I am not arguing that the patch didn't help us at all, I am saying it did not go far enough. We are the only class that is not absolutely needed for dungeons. try and run without a DC or CW, hell even a GF is **** near needed now, and TR are needed if you want to run it quickly because they pump out the single target dps. I do not want us to be overpowered gods, I'm trying to find out what we offer that another class does not do better. I believe it was spacejew that posted on giving our abilities added stuff while unstopable, that would do wonders for helping us. At the moment though what do we offer?
  • kyuubiilkyuubiil Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 59
    edited June 2013
    judicas wrote: »
    Ok, getting tired of the people stating l2p... yes i can pull out 15-17 million in dungeons, i can pull a lot more and CC with my CW, yes i can sort of tank but a GF does it 10 times better. I am not arguing that the patch didn't help us at all, I am saying it did not go far enough. We are the only class that is not absolutely needed for dungeons. try and run without a DC or CW, hell even a GF is **** near needed now, and TR are needed if you want to run it quickly because they pump out the single target dps. I do not want us to be overpowered gods, I'm trying to find out what we offer that another class does not do better. I believe it was spacejew that posted on giving our abilities added stuff while unstopable, that would do wonders for helping us. At the moment though what do we offer?

    This is what i've been saying. Not that we're weak, we do a viable role in a group, just that we bring nothing to the party (Besides SOTS) that a GF or CW couldn't bring and then some. (Hell, conqueror spec Gf's can tank better AND dps better than us.)

    Makes us expendable, unlike other classes.
  • serpentttserpenttt Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 77
    edited June 2013
    Give slam a stun effect, the duration of say steal time sounds reasonable. Doesn't work in pvp, of course.
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    serpenttt wrote: »
    Give slam a stun effect, the duration of say steal time sounds reasonable. Doesn't work in pvp, of course.
    That would be too much... Though I would certainly welcome it! ;)
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  • chudovishyechudovishye Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    kr0owe wrote: »
    Are you guys kidding me? Your are stronger then before, I don't play a GWF (my bro do though) but I can notice in PvP that I mostly play and you are actually a threat now and you sure wasnt before, I play as a GF btw.

    Thank you. I've noticed many, and I mean many, CWs and TRs running now. It's clear, changes were made. I'd agree a slight, overall dmg buff is still needed to make it the logical DPS class, but I like it fine.
  • chudovishyechudovishye Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    evo404 wrote: »
    So you don't go for either capstone... interesting. Thanks for sharing.

    No prob. I don't touch Sentinel tree, though, at all. Still totes dumb.
  • belladanbelladan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Getting Non-Capstone is actually almost perfectly viable. Building from encounters, you can actually almost pull it off nicely. If the defense buff at the 15-20pt. in sentinel was lower down the tree, I'd be opting to not capstone as well. (15destroyer/10sent. X other stuff is the most viable non-capstone currently. Most likely grab the reduction speed from destroyer.)
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