Note the changes to the AD amount to be given away has been raised to 200k at the end of the stream courtesy of Zovya!
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
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apocrs1980Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, SilverstarsPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
Thank you to all that joined the stream today. And a big thank you to the authors who submitted their quests for review. I hope I was able to leave helpful suggestions and get other author's creative juices flowing! Gratz to the prize winners and we will see you all on next week's stream!
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In light of recent events, we are switching live stream channels. We have another stream host lined up but we have to work through the process of working out the quality and so forth but the show will go on!
Stay tuned folks, we will keep you all informed on the new stream channel soon(tm).
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
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ellindar1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
In light of being completely stupid and taken for idiots by wushin, we are switching live stream channels. We have another stream host lined up but we have to work through the process of working out the quality and so forth but the show will go on!
Stay tuned folks, we will keep you all informed on the new stream channel soon(tm).
I would really appreciate it if you would keep your personal issues off this thread. Send me a PM, make a new thread or whatever but please do not use this thread for this.
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
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ellindar1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I would really appreciate it if you would keep your personal issues off this thread. Send me a PM, make a new thread or whatever but please do not use this thread for this.
Since you and I were the two who made this happen in the first place I'd say this is the right place. And since its you and nyghoma being taken for fools, I will keep it here until up you wake up.
The only winner here is the person who plays the bigger man and stops the bickering. If you carry it on here you're gonna get the thread locked, you know this, so if you do carry on then it's pretty much admitting you're trying to get the thread locked.
There's only the two of you arguing, take it in game or to PM; no one else wants to read it.
The only winner here is the person who plays the bigger man and stops the bickering. If you carry it on here you're gonna get the thread locked, you know this, so if you do carry on then it's pretty much admitting you're trying to get the thread locked.
There's only the two of you arguing, take it in game or to PM; no one else wants to read it.
Unfortunately this is just as much my thread as anyone's. Since it was my stream. Second, had nyghoma and chili taken the TWO seconds this morning to talk and find out what was going on, this wouldn't be happening. But instead, nyghoma like he always does, does a knee jerk reaction. Just like he did to @weasoug. Like it or not, we were public due to the stream, and the truth is going to be out there on a thread that involves me this much. Whether you prefer to read it or not.
Every single one of you talked about wushin in vent, instead of that, I told him to stop whining and cluttering up the forums. Every one of you talked about Dzogen and his exploit maps. I put it out there that these should stop if that's what they are. I took the heat for it, even though it was the right thing.
If you don't want to read it, don't bother looking.
Elindar thinks you have a level 60 who gave him a low scored review on one of his quests (the person with the account porpoisealert who made the other thread). Screenshots were sent to Chilli of the insults and has resulted in elindar being removed from the guild as it was deemed as a bad reflection on the guild if an author is attacking people over mail and private messages when they get a bad review (though to clarify it isn't this single incident that has prompted this action).
That's why you have been brought up, elindar is claiming you are this other person and are trying to go out of your way to dupe the guild (specifically nyghoma and chilli) to get elindar removed. I wouldn't worry about it as elindar has also come out saying he thought you were an old forum poster called Thunderspank and also Karmalilicious. To clarify no one else in the guild thinks that you tried to "dupe" anyone, nor does anyone believe that elindar was set up; just that he didn't take criticism particularly well.
Hope that answers your question wuhsin, now as elindar is probably going to spend the next 10 mins trying to defend himself over my post (though none of it is an attack at him personally, just laying down the facts as they have come to light this evening), can I ask that you do the Dungeon Master' a favor, wuhsin, and not continue in this thread; it would be greatly appreciated.
Elindar thinks you have a level 60 who gave him a low scored review on one of his quests (the person with the account porpoisealert who made the other thread). Screenshots were sent to Chilli of the insults and has resulted in elindar being removed from the guild as it was deemed as a bad reflection on the guild if an author is attacking people over mail and private messages when they get a bad review (though to clarify it isn't this single incident that has prompted this action).
That's why you have been brought up, elindar is claiming you are this other person and are trying to go out of your way to dupe the guild (specifically nyghoma and chilli) to get elindar removed. I wouldn't worry about it as elindar has also come out saying he thought you were an old forum poster called Thunderspank and also Karmalilicious. To clarify no one else in the guild thinks that you tried to "dupe" anyone, nor does anyone believe that elindar was set up; just that he didn't take criticism particularly well.
Hope that answers your question wuhsin, now as elindar is probably going to spend the next 10 mins trying to defend himself over my post (though none of it is an attack at him personally, just laying down the facts as they have come to light this evening), can I ask that you do the Dungeon Master' a favor, wuhsin, and not continue in this thread; it would be greatly appreciated.
For the record, he was not removed from the guild, he left on his own.
Now, back to business and that is making more quest for the masses.
I kindly ask one last time to not turn this thread into a drama-fest, it's not the place. This thread is to help and that is not happening so far today, at all.
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
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ellindar1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Elindar thinks you have a level 60 who gave him a low scored review on one of his quests (the person with the account porpoisealert who made the other thread). Screenshots were sent to Chilli of the insults and has resulted in elindar being removed from the guild as it was deemed as a bad reflection on the guild if an author is attacking people over mail and private messages when they get a bad review (though to clarify it isn't this single incident that has prompted this action).
That's why you have been brought up, elindar is claiming you are this other person and are trying to go out of your way to dupe the guild (specifically nyghoma and chilli) to get elindar removed. I wouldn't worry about it as elindar has also come out saying he thought you were an old forum poster called Thunderspank and also Karmalilicious. To clarify no one else in the guild thinks that you tried to "dupe" anyone, nor does anyone believe that elindar was set up; just that he didn't take criticism particularly well.
Hope that answers your question wuhsin, now as elindar is probably going to spend the next 10 mins trying to defend himself over my post (though none of it is an attack at him personally, just laying down the facts as they have come to light this evening), can I ask that you do the Dungeon Master' a favor, wuhsin, and not continue in this thread; it would be greatly appreciated.
Nah I'll spend 30 seconds instead to say that he already spelled it out for you in another thread. But if folks are too dumb to see it, its not my problem.
I can say this though, Dungeon Masters (which btw you act like you're this big part of, and you were a big part of the stream, etc. and you literally have nothing to do with any of it) jumping on the Wuhsin band wagon is something I am happily NOT associated with. If that's the intelligence you plan to go through life with, good luck.
Nah I'll spend 30 seconds instead to say that he already spelled it out for you in another thread. But if folks are too dumb to see it, its not my problem.
I can say this though, Dungeon Masters (which btw you act like you're this big part of, and you were a big part of the stream, etc. and you literally have nothing to do with any of it) jumping on the Wuhsin band wagon is something I am happily NOT associated with. If that's the intelligence you plan to go through life with, good luck.
They haven't streamed my quest or given me any reviews, dude. They're not any part of my band-wagon. I was a part of this guild, one of the first to join, and they kicked me out after I became entangled in drama which you helped to start. The guild never streamed my quests, reviewed me, or took my side in any of the various arguments I've gotten myself into, even after I supported my guild-mates with reviews and answered many questions. So don't accuse them of being part of my band-wagon. If anything they've spent nearly as much time hassling me as you. I didn't cry or blame anyone when they kicked me out though like you have. I said good riddance. Who needs a guild that won't have your back when it hits the fan? If you have a legitimate problem with me, feel free to call me out on it. But don't blame me for the problems you created for yourself.
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ellindar1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I have no idea what is going on here, who is to blame for what, which person starting arguing, or who needs to be the bigger man. (It's always the other guy.) Nor do I wish to know.
What I DO know is that it's a shame to see this happen. I enjoyed the Forge stream. It was both entertaining and educational. It was worth watching to both authors and non-authors alike. It was a large part of what made me want to become a foundry author myself; knowing that despite the fact that most people click and rush through foundry missions without reading a word or stopping to look at what they're playing, there are people out there who look for and appreciate attention to detail and immersive design.
While apoc's sage advice on foundry decorating was a big draw, it was the passion for the community shown by Ellindar, Chilli and Nyghoma that made the show work. All three of you clearly wanted the stream to be a uniting focal point for the community, which outside of the stream is fairly fractured and disconnected. And all three of you put in a lot of effort to giving us a flagship that we could point at and say "yes, that, that is the foundry community, and it is awesome." Ellindar's, Nyghoma's and Chilli's opinions, while not always in line with one another (and who would want them to be? you need a back and forth, a debate, a disagreement or two, otherwise it's not an opinion show, it's just a bunch of people nodding heads and patting backs) were always insightful and relevant. It was the passion and drive of all three of you combined that made it work. Like Voltron. And the different perspectives were a vital part of that. Voltron can't be all left hands.
I implore you, all of you; don't throw this away just to prove the other guy wrong. You're all adults. No one person here needs to be the bigger man. You all do. You're all bigger and better than this. Internet arguments are not worth losing friends and destroying accomplishments over.
I sincerely hope that the stream continues in one form or another. But it will be a crying shame and a disservice to the community if it does so without any one of the people who made the show what it is, and in no small part the community what it is by extension.
You guys are a team. A team doesn't always get on well, but a team needs to know when to put their differences aside and just get on with things for the greater good.
The community needs you. All of you. Ellindar, Nyghoma and Chili. And, of course, the ever mellow Apoc. And everyone else who chipped in. Don't waste what you achieved over an some angry words that ultimately mean very little. There are bigger, more important things to do here.
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Thank you for making a great quest!
At least I can watch the saved videos
Author: @BardicKnowledge
Q1: Prologue - The Lady and the Worm NW-DPQPJSVTH
Tags: #Challenge, #Story, #Solo, #Group
Cool you get to listen to our 15 minute discussion on difficulty sliders for quests!
Its entertaining.
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My first installment in the Rise of Shadovar Campaign.
Awesome man, thank you for submitting!
Thank you! I will add it to the list. I wish we could cover more per week.
Stay tuned folks, we will keep you all informed on the new stream channel soon(tm).
fixed.
Hope that helps.
I would really appreciate it if you would keep your personal issues off this thread. Send me a PM, make a new thread or whatever but please do not use this thread for this.
Since you and I were the two who made this happen in the first place I'd say this is the right place. And since its you and nyghoma being taken for fools, I will keep it here until up you wake up.
Keep proving me right. And thanks.
Answer the question.
Already have in other threads. (Ty again)
There's only the two of you arguing, take it in game or to PM; no one else wants to read it.
Unfortunately this is just as much my thread as anyone's. Since it was my stream. Second, had nyghoma and chili taken the TWO seconds this morning to talk and find out what was going on, this wouldn't be happening. But instead, nyghoma like he always does, does a knee jerk reaction. Just like he did to @weasoug. Like it or not, we were public due to the stream, and the truth is going to be out there on a thread that involves me this much. Whether you prefer to read it or not.
Every single one of you talked about wushin in vent, instead of that, I told him to stop whining and cluttering up the forums. Every one of you talked about Dzogen and his exploit maps. I put it out there that these should stop if that's what they are. I took the heat for it, even though it was the right thing.
If you don't want to read it, don't bother looking.
That's why you have been brought up, elindar is claiming you are this other person and are trying to go out of your way to dupe the guild (specifically nyghoma and chilli) to get elindar removed. I wouldn't worry about it as elindar has also come out saying he thought you were an old forum poster called Thunderspank and also Karmalilicious. To clarify no one else in the guild thinks that you tried to "dupe" anyone, nor does anyone believe that elindar was set up; just that he didn't take criticism particularly well.
Hope that answers your question wuhsin, now as elindar is probably going to spend the next 10 mins trying to defend himself over my post (though none of it is an attack at him personally, just laying down the facts as they have come to light this evening), can I ask that you do the Dungeon Master' a favor, wuhsin, and not continue in this thread; it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much yospeck for clearing this up.
Now, back to business and that is making more quest for the masses.
I kindly ask one last time to not turn this thread into a drama-fest, it's not the place. This thread is to help and that is not happening so far today, at all.
Nah I'll spend 30 seconds instead to say that he already spelled it out for you in another thread. But if folks are too dumb to see it, its not my problem.
I can say this though, Dungeon Masters (which btw you act like you're this big part of, and you were a big part of the stream, etc. and you literally have nothing to do with any of it) jumping on the Wuhsin band wagon is something I am happily NOT associated with. If that's the intelligence you plan to go through life with, good luck.
They haven't streamed my quest or given me any reviews, dude. They're not any part of my band-wagon. I was a part of this guild, one of the first to join, and they kicked me out after I became entangled in drama which you helped to start. The guild never streamed my quests, reviewed me, or took my side in any of the various arguments I've gotten myself into, even after I supported my guild-mates with reviews and answered many questions. So don't accuse them of being part of my band-wagon. If anything they've spent nearly as much time hassling me as you. I didn't cry or blame anyone when they kicked me out though like you have. I said good riddance. Who needs a guild that won't have your back when it hits the fan? If you have a legitimate problem with me, feel free to call me out on it. But don't blame me for the problems you created for yourself.
What I DO know is that it's a shame to see this happen. I enjoyed the Forge stream. It was both entertaining and educational. It was worth watching to both authors and non-authors alike. It was a large part of what made me want to become a foundry author myself; knowing that despite the fact that most people click and rush through foundry missions without reading a word or stopping to look at what they're playing, there are people out there who look for and appreciate attention to detail and immersive design.
While apoc's sage advice on foundry decorating was a big draw, it was the passion for the community shown by Ellindar, Chilli and Nyghoma that made the show work. All three of you clearly wanted the stream to be a uniting focal point for the community, which outside of the stream is fairly fractured and disconnected. And all three of you put in a lot of effort to giving us a flagship that we could point at and say "yes, that, that is the foundry community, and it is awesome." Ellindar's, Nyghoma's and Chilli's opinions, while not always in line with one another (and who would want them to be? you need a back and forth, a debate, a disagreement or two, otherwise it's not an opinion show, it's just a bunch of people nodding heads and patting backs) were always insightful and relevant. It was the passion and drive of all three of you combined that made it work. Like Voltron. And the different perspectives were a vital part of that. Voltron can't be all left hands.
I implore you, all of you; don't throw this away just to prove the other guy wrong. You're all adults. No one person here needs to be the bigger man. You all do. You're all bigger and better than this. Internet arguments are not worth losing friends and destroying accomplishments over.
I sincerely hope that the stream continues in one form or another. But it will be a crying shame and a disservice to the community if it does so without any one of the people who made the show what it is, and in no small part the community what it is by extension.
You guys are a team. A team doesn't always get on well, but a team needs to know when to put their differences aside and just get on with things for the greater good.
The community needs you. All of you. Ellindar, Nyghoma and Chili. And, of course, the ever mellow Apoc. And everyone else who chipped in. Don't waste what you achieved over an some angry words that ultimately mean very little. There are bigger, more important things to do here.
Preview/Freedback thread: http://tinyurl.com/NW-DTNZTFYDS - Now eligible for Daily Quest!
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