ellindar1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
Thanks visceral I appreciate that. And is what I tired to do this morning. Like I said, there was a knee jerk reaction because of tensions that were already a little high. People need to learn to talk is all.
And for the record the stream was something chili and I talked about initially and I loved doing it.
Care to give my quest a go? Short code in signature
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] The entire campaign can be found here:NWS-DQS27OINC
Individual quests:
1. Heeding the Call - NW-DMJCDZ5XJ
2. Bored of the Rings - NW-DFWE3XR6W
3. Draconian Ways - NW-DUNZEJG2J
4. When All is Said and Done... - Look at the picture
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ellindar1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
For the record, he was not removed from the guild, he left on his own.
Now, back to business and that is making more quest for the masses.
I kindly ask one last time to not turn this thread into a drama-fest, it's not the place. This thread is to help and that is not happening so far today, at all.
Then be a man and not a child and and talk on vent so it can get back to being about quests.the knee jerk ban on vent was just ridiculous and in no way mature. I think everyone would appreciate we resolve it.
By doing that and nw_foundry and even ignore you have forced it to be here
I like Chili's stream very much (as well as his quests). I like to watch it sometimes, but sometimes I will just listen while I'm working in the Foundry. Unfortunately, I've just moved and don't have access to my gaming computer for another week or so. I'm hoping UPS doesn't break it, I double boxed it with lots of popcorn, a massive custom rig that I built. Finally, I'm glad that you are getting official recognition with free swag to give out, but still not happy they have not acknowledged the lack of gelatinous cubes (and dragons) in the foundry. Maybe you can use your position to rectify this gamebreaking issue. This is a true slap in the face against cube lovers everywhere.
If you guys have available spots that need filling. I would be open to a revisit of Mage Masher. It can be a before and after comparative walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why people wouldn't be throwing their quests at this stream. The input was a huge benefit to me. If my adjusted rating falls inline with my actual rating, I am bound for the best tab, thanks to all you guys. I am actually working on a second quest, and when it is ready, the first thing I am going to do is request it be reviewed in The Forge.
If you guys have available spots that need filling. I would be open to a revisit of Mage Masher. It can be a before and after comparative walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why people wouldn't be throwing their quests at this stream. The input was a huge benefit to me. If my adjusted rating falls inline with my actual rating, I am bound for the best tab, thanks to all you guys. I am actually working on a second quest, and when it is ready, the first thing I am going to do is request it be reviewed in The Forge.
I actually replayed your quest just yesterday, and all I have to say is...wow. You did take our advice to the "t", and it paid off. It really shows in your quest now. New teleporters, fully decorated rooms, and engaging encounters. You are the perfect example of why we do this stream. Cheers on your rise to fame.
NW-DT4OV7EXH
Every time they idiot-proof something...they make better idiots.
If you guys have available spots that need filling. I would be open to a revisit of Mage Masher. It can be a before and after comparative walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why people wouldn't be throwing their quests at this stream. The input was a huge benefit to me. If my adjusted rating falls inline with my actual rating, I am bound for the best tab, thanks to all you guys. I am actually working on a second quest, and when it is ready, the first thing I am going to do is request it be reviewed in The Forge.
That is awesome to hear man, grats.
We have been thinking of doing a "follow up" special stream to show off some of the quests that were adjusted after we gave some ideas and tips. This would be a perfect example of what to show on that stream.
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
Just a small change in our line up of how we will do this and our Wednesday show; We will now be giving feedback on both days and ending each show with a "Forge Spotlight Pick" quest of our choosing. This will usually be a quest which we have played and enjoyed and wanted to share with our viewers.
Stay tuned for any changes or info!
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] The entire campaign can be found here:NWS-DQS27OINC
Individual quests:
1. Heeding the Call - NW-DMJCDZ5XJ
2. Bored of the Rings - NW-DFWE3XR6W
3. Draconian Ways - NW-DUNZEJG2J
4. When All is Said and Done... - Look at the picture
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lolsorhandMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 981Bounty Hunter
edited June 2013
Sounds like fun, even though my timezone is Swedish.. I'm a night person so will probobly tune in now and then
I'm like a kid on christmas eve... Can't wait for the next stream
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] The entire campaign can be found here:NWS-DQS27OINC
Individual quests:
1. Heeding the Call - NW-DMJCDZ5XJ
2. Bored of the Rings - NW-DFWE3XR6W
3. Draconian Ways - NW-DUNZEJG2J
4. When All is Said and Done... - Look at the picture
So I checked the list and my quest has gone from being first to getting taken off entirely. Furthermore the second quest due to go is still on there, so it looks like I've actually been singled out. What gives?
Check out Adventuring College! A 20 minute male-centric comedic solo adventure.
Quest ID: NW-DPCZNUVQ7
So I checked the list and my quest has gone from being first to getting taken off entirely. Furthermore the second quest due to go is still on there, so it looks like I've actually been singled out. What gives?
Check your forum PM box.
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
Love your guys' & gals' work. Honestly a great thing to be doing for the community. I just want to thank you for putting in your very own time and effort into something like this. I love watching your streams! Will continue to do so!
Thanks again,
Love your guys' & gals' work. Honestly a great thing to be doing for the community. I just want to thank you for putting in your very own time and effort into something like this. I love watching your streams! Will continue to do so!
Thanks again,
Savai,
Awesome, thank you!
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
My quest is back in the lineup if anyone is interested. There was a simple directional issue which I suspected would eventually come up. Thanks to the two latest reviewers who inadvertently provided evidence that the quest was still working properly after the big patch update, and thanks to Chili for his patience and throughness in getting this sorted out.
In any case, I can cross the name off the top of my list.
Check out Adventuring College! A 20 minute male-centric comedic solo adventure.
Quest ID: NW-DPCZNUVQ7
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apocrs1980Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, SilverstarsPosts: 0Arc User
My quest is back in the lineup if anyone is interested. There was a simple directional issue which I suspected would eventually come up. Thanks to the two latest reviewers who inadvertently provided evidence that the quest was still working properly after the big patch update, and thanks to Chili for his patience and throughness in getting this sorted out.
In any case, I can cross the name off the top of my list.
I lol'd at this
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
The Cragsteep Crypt - BETA Ravenloft Look for@Apocrs1980 or visit the main page here or Ravenloft here
My quest is back in the lineup if anyone is interested. There was a simple directional issue which I suspected would eventually come up. Thanks to the two latest reviewers who inadvertently provided evidence that the quest was still working properly after the big patch update, and thanks to Chili for his patience and throughness in getting this sorted out.
In any case, I can cross the name off the top of my list.
This is epic level hilarious!
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
Thank you for offering these streams! What a great way to bring attention to The Foundry and the amazing art that has been produced using it's tools. I have watched a couple of the streams and had two comments to make on what I've seen thus far:
To be fair, I think you ought to list in your review requirements that quests must comply with D&D lore, since you review them accordingly. That will screen out many would-be applicants.
One other piece of feedback: I've watched two of the streams so far (not knowing the authors, the quests, or the reviewers) and felt that the reviews were overwhelmingly negative. I know that this is meant to be constructive criticism (which is of great value to the individual authors) but as a viewer I felt that I was given an hour-long look at everything that was wrong or ugly about someone's art. I lost appreciation for a quest that I might otherwise have played and enjoyed. Both streams I watched actually ended with the reviewers making positive comments about the overall game play, but that didn't compensate for the negative perspective that dominated the rest of the hour.
I know it's cliche, but perhaps for the sake of balance you could try assigning one reviewer to focus on pointing out all the positive aspects they spot as you move through the quest? This sounds contrived, but think of it as a take on American Idol - nobody would have watched it if the review panel had been composed of 100% "Simons". It's intentional that there are three people, each of whom represents either a lenient, middle ground, or harsh critical viewpoint. This is a valid way to review art that has gone through some sort of screening process to have made it to your table. No one who made it to the competition stage of American Idol was ever utterly devoid of talent, just as I assume you won't waste time on your streams reviewing quests that have had 5,000 plays with an average review of 1.5 stars (i.e. the very fact that you're reviewing the quest means it has a lot of redeeming value - that value might just need to be highlighted more often to balance the criticisms and encourage viewers to play the quest themselves).
If that is too artificial and seems to limit what each reviewer is "allowed" to comment on, perhaps you could just do what good business managers do whenever they have to critically review a valued team member: Start and end criticisms with a compliment. This helps authors feel as though they aren't complete failures and encourages them to dust themselves off and try again.
So there you have it. I'm just one person and others might not feel as I do, but I thought I'd throw my opinion out there in case it helps improve the format of the streams and increases your number of regular viewers. I wish you all the success in the world on this project! Thanks for putting it together.
Thank you a lot for the feedback. We love hearing from people who have watched and want to know how we can create a better show for everyone. The things you mentioned will be discussed and effort put in for a more enjoyable viewer experience.
Thank you.
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
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lolsorhandMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 981Bounty Hunter
edited June 2013
Well feel free to put mine up on the stream if you wish, and please do shred it hard. I need to know what to improve
I just did as i wrote that post :P (But i would want to follow an advice you gave on another quest about muddrops near graves. But sadly i cannot fix this, nor another thing because It simply will not let me into the editor.)
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And for the record the stream was something chili and I talked about initially and I loved doing it.
The entire campaign can be found here: NWS-DQS27OINC
Individual quests:
1. Heeding the Call - NW-DMJCDZ5XJ
2. Bored of the Rings - NW-DFWE3XR6W
3. Draconian Ways - NW-DUNZEJG2J
4. When All is Said and Done... - Look at the picture
Then be a man and not a child and and talk on vent so it can get back to being about quests.the knee jerk ban on vent was just ridiculous and in no way mature. I think everyone would appreciate we resolve it.
By doing that and nw_foundry and even ignore you have forced it to be here
Sure, submit it in the OP and we'll add it to the list.
The show will continue as per normal, any changes to the times or days will be updated accordingly but right now it is going to be on schedule.
I'd hardly say "per normal"
Quit whining. :rolleyes:
Bill's Tavern | The 27th Level | Secret Agent 34
Ravenloft
Look for@Apocrs1980 or visit the main page here or Ravenloft here
A short solo hack-n-slash: The Dirty Dwarf
I actually replayed your quest just yesterday, and all I have to say is...wow. You did take our advice to the "t", and it paid off. It really shows in your quest now. New teleporters, fully decorated rooms, and engaging encounters. You are the perfect example of why we do this stream. Cheers on your rise to fame.
Every time they idiot-proof something...they make better idiots.
That is awesome to hear man, grats.
We have been thinking of doing a "follow up" special stream to show off some of the quests that were adjusted after we gave some ideas and tips. This would be a perfect example of what to show on that stream.
Stay tuned for any changes or info!
The entire campaign can be found here: NWS-DQS27OINC
Individual quests:
1. Heeding the Call - NW-DMJCDZ5XJ
2. Bored of the Rings - NW-DFWE3XR6W
3. Draconian Ways - NW-DUNZEJG2J
4. When All is Said and Done... - Look at the picture
Brethren of the Five, Campaign. - Story focused
The Dwarven Tale - Hack 'N Slash
The entire campaign can be found here: NWS-DQS27OINC
Individual quests:
1. Heeding the Call - NW-DMJCDZ5XJ
2. Bored of the Rings - NW-DFWE3XR6W
3. Draconian Ways - NW-DUNZEJG2J
4. When All is Said and Done... - Look at the picture
Quest ID: NW-DPCZNUVQ7
Check your forum PM box.
Thanks again,
Savai,
Awesome, thank you!
In any case, I can cross the name off the top of my list.
Quest ID: NW-DPCZNUVQ7
I lol'd at this
Ravenloft
Look for@Apocrs1980 or visit the main page here or Ravenloft here
This is epic level hilarious!
To be fair, I think you ought to list in your review requirements that quests must comply with D&D lore, since you review them accordingly. That will screen out many would-be applicants.
One other piece of feedback: I've watched two of the streams so far (not knowing the authors, the quests, or the reviewers) and felt that the reviews were overwhelmingly negative. I know that this is meant to be constructive criticism (which is of great value to the individual authors) but as a viewer I felt that I was given an hour-long look at everything that was wrong or ugly about someone's art. I lost appreciation for a quest that I might otherwise have played and enjoyed. Both streams I watched actually ended with the reviewers making positive comments about the overall game play, but that didn't compensate for the negative perspective that dominated the rest of the hour.
I know it's cliche, but perhaps for the sake of balance you could try assigning one reviewer to focus on pointing out all the positive aspects they spot as you move through the quest? This sounds contrived, but think of it as a take on American Idol - nobody would have watched it if the review panel had been composed of 100% "Simons". It's intentional that there are three people, each of whom represents either a lenient, middle ground, or harsh critical viewpoint. This is a valid way to review art that has gone through some sort of screening process to have made it to your table. No one who made it to the competition stage of American Idol was ever utterly devoid of talent, just as I assume you won't waste time on your streams reviewing quests that have had 5,000 plays with an average review of 1.5 stars (i.e. the very fact that you're reviewing the quest means it has a lot of redeeming value - that value might just need to be highlighted more often to balance the criticisms and encourage viewers to play the quest themselves).
If that is too artificial and seems to limit what each reviewer is "allowed" to comment on, perhaps you could just do what good business managers do whenever they have to critically review a valued team member: Start and end criticisms with a compliment. This helps authors feel as though they aren't complete failures and encourages them to dust themselves off and try again.
So there you have it. I'm just one person and others might not feel as I do, but I thought I'd throw my opinion out there in case it helps improve the format of the streams and increases your number of regular viewers. I wish you all the success in the world on this project! Thanks for putting it together.
Thank you a lot for the feedback. We love hearing from people who have watched and want to know how we can create a better show for everyone. The things you mentioned will be discussed and effort put in for a more enjoyable viewer experience.
Thank you.
Brethren of the Five, Campaign. - Story focused
The Dwarven Tale - Hack 'N Slash
Would love to, just need to submit it using this submission form.
I just did as i wrote that post :P (But i would want to follow an advice you gave on another quest about muddrops near graves. But sadly i cannot fix this, nor another thing because It simply will not let me into the editor.)
Brethren of the Five, Campaign. - Story focused
The Dwarven Tale - Hack 'N Slash