really can anyone name a worse one?
it s AWFUL on every level. daliys 1 shotting, block, no dr on anything, rogue range dmg spam, dodge being semi worthless AWFUL sprite detection, bad LoS. really. its stunning. pong>nw pvp wise.
really can anyone name a worse one?
it s AWFUL on every level. daliys 1 shotting, block, no dr on anything, rogue range dmg spam, dodge being semi worthless AWFUL sprite detection, bad LoS. really. its stunning. pong>nw pvp wise.
I don't think you understand things.
Yes the dailies suck but blocking? You are complaining about blocking? Really? You know DPS classes can burn through guard meter in just a few seconds?
Also, the most popular spec for GF relies on them to NOT block because as they block damage they lose offensive capability (basically 1% block lost = 1% extra power loss)
as soon as you cry about the very weak rogue ranged attack, it marks you as very green. That is a super low damage attack, only gets 12 shots before it has to build up again (slowly) and hits for a fraction of a real attack. Its like crying about ray of frost from CW or something.
as soon as you cry about the very weak rogue ranged attack, it marks you as very green. That is a super low damage attack, only gets 12 shots before it has to build up again (slowly) and hits for a fraction of a real attack. Its like crying about ray of frost from CW or something.
Are we playing the same game? Its stronger then Clerics spear of light and its MUCH stronger then it.
as soon as you cry about the very weak rogue ranged attack, it marks you as very green. That is a super low damage attack, only gets 12 shots before it has to build up again (slowly) and hits for a fraction of a real attack. Its like crying about ray of frost from CW or something.
the ranged attack rogues have is not super weak, not sure what game you're playing...
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nukeyooBanned Users, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
as soon as you cry about the very weak rogue ranged attack, it marks you as very green. That is a super low damage attack, only gets 12 shots before it has to build up again (slowly) and hits for a fraction of a real attack. Its like crying about ray of frost from CW or something.
You should probably educate yourself before acting like you know anything.
as soon as you cry about the very weak rogue ranged attack, it marks you as very green. That is a super low damage attack, only gets 12 shots before it has to build up again (slowly) and hits for a fraction of a real attack. Its like crying about ray of frost from CW or something.
OUt of a dozen matches today about 9 of them contained rogues in stealth majority of the time throwing daggers. The damage stacks up quick with each consecutive hit and if they are in stealth its hard to know which way to doge to stop the stacks. And don't dont hate on ray of frost.....it helps with blockers and soemtimes the best way for me to slow down a GF who likes to make me fly (and while my cc's are on cooldown)
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pickygamerMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
as soon as you cry about the very weak rogue ranged attack, it marks you as very green. That is a super low damage attack, only gets 12 shots before it has to build up again (slowly) and hits for a fraction of a real attack. Its like crying about ray of frost from CW or something.
Hmmm. I disagree completely with the OP- actually the pvp in NW is great and would be one of the best in the genre with a few more maps, new gamemodes, fix the queues and afk problem .
However, I'm not sure of this weak ranged rogue attack of which you speak- at level 60 rogues have killed my CW with just the ranged attack (CW in full T1 pvp gear).
really can anyone name a worse one?
it s AWFUL on every level. daliys 1 shotting, block, no dr on anything, rogue range dmg spam, dodge being semi worthless AWFUL sprite detection, bad LoS. really. its stunning. pong>nw pvp wise.
The only saving grace about NW pvp is that there aren't any real rewards to compete for so there's no point in giving a **** about balance.
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dukemanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 8Arc User
edited May 2013
They should make a debuff on all classes (not cleric because honestly really...) that reduces damage of all abilities by like 50% or so in pvp. This way at the very least skirmishes aren't series of 2 shotting eachother.
They should make a debuff on all classes (not cleric because honestly really...) that reduces damage of all abilities by like 50% or so in pvp. This way at the very least skirmishes aren't series of 2 shotting eachother.
Yeah because 1 AS should render people completely invincible in pvp.
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dukemanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 8Arc User
edited May 2013
lol you do realize at 60 as isn't that almighty its more like the only thing that keeps you from being completely useless.
How about someone actually answer the OP's question?
Offhand, only thing i can think of is Crystal Saga. I understand they did, at some point, fix modes so you could turn off PvP. When I played it it was broken, so always full, open world PvP, with no level brackets.
Think: NW with full out, constant, open world PvP; Lvl 60 epic PK specialty guilds camped at the entrance to Blackdagger Ruins...
How about someone actually answer the OP's question?
Offhand, only thing i can think of is Crystal Saga. I understand they did, at some point, fix modes so you could turn off PvP. When I played it it was broken, so always full, open world PvP, with no level brackets.
Think: NW with full out, constant, open world PvP; Lvl 60 epic PK specialty guilds camped at the entrance to Blackdagger Ruins...
Defiance PVP is a monstrous pile of ****.
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nukeyooBanned Users, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
i stick by what i said. utter spice girl pvp design on every level. if you like it then you like ****** clamps. btw im not talking so much about 1 class. i mean as a whole. daliys 1 shottin gis just AWFUL game design. lowers the skill cap lower than a 2 dolla teen hooker in a beiber tour bus.
Well totally ****ty dodge system. have Devs tried playing GWF and GF vs CW and Rouges. *Dodge. Choke..Blink Blink..Hide & Smoke.*Dashing to your death. WTF was this Dash for?...and GWF <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> ANIMATION IS SO SLOW totally dodgable even kindergartens can evade those attacks.
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cerebral79Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Well totally ****ty dodge system. have Devs tried playing GWF and GF vs CW and Rouges. *Dodge. Choke..Blink Blink..Hide & Smoke.*Dashing to your death. WTF was this Dash for?...and GWF <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> ANIMATION IS SO SLOW totally dodgable even kindergartens can evade those attacks.
if ur a gf use frontline surge, bull charge, and lunging strike for your encounters, and threatening rush as your right at will and you will be jumping and lunging around so fast its hard for anyone to hit you.
oh and my main is a CW and 12-14k ray of frost crits are pretty weak also right? :rolleyes:
Watching that video made me wanna make a vodka and tonic and put my cool shades on (music was pretty **** chill.).
Getting back to Rogues and this PvP, Rangers and Scourge Warlock's damage will be worse than this if they do not put in a base line damage modifier for every class in PvP (or on gear). Currently right now, raw stats determine damage and people know this (Hence, t2 PvE gear ruling PvP currently.).
I mean if they put in other strikers and actually give GWF a solid role (Tank or dps.).
I may not be considered by most the BEST PVP Warlock on the server but, I am the most HATED amongst them.
-Kymos
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ranncoreMember, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 2,508
edited May 2013
I don't know about you guys but I haven't been able to play a single actual PvP match once tonight. Two or more bots on every team, AFKers, people glitched out and not teleporting in...
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I don't think you understand things.
Yes the dailies suck but blocking? You are complaining about blocking? Really? You know DPS classes can burn through guard meter in just a few seconds?
Also, the most popular spec for GF relies on them to NOT block because as they block damage they lose offensive capability (basically 1% block lost = 1% extra power loss)
Are we playing the same game? Its stronger then Clerics spear of light and its MUCH stronger then it.
the ranged attack rogues have is not super weak, not sure what game you're playing...
You should probably educate yourself before acting like you know anything.
here's a vid I happened upon of some of those weak rogue ranged attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y48A7iA3q6w&lc=BN_uAf3O7kn8lfMX-YTsYFDXD2P5sMeTCGVGJYiDIoU
oh and my main is a CW and 12-14k ray of frost crits are pretty weak also right? :rolleyes:
OUt of a dozen matches today about 9 of them contained rogues in stealth majority of the time throwing daggers. The damage stacks up quick with each consecutive hit and if they are in stealth its hard to know which way to doge to stop the stacks. And don't dont hate on ray of frost.....it helps with blockers and soemtimes the best way for me to slow down a GF who likes to make me fly (and while my cc's are on cooldown)
Lol I think I fought you today......god I hate those throwing daggers....I hate them sooo much. Making me guess a direction and dodge lol
Hmmm. I disagree completely with the OP- actually the pvp in NW is great and would be one of the best in the genre with a few more maps, new gamemodes, fix the queues and afk problem .
However, I'm not sure of this weak ranged rogue attack of which you speak- at level 60 rogues have killed my CW with just the ranged attack (CW in full T1 pvp gear).
The only saving grace about NW pvp is that there aren't any real rewards to compete for so there's no point in giving a **** about balance.
Yeah because 1 AS should render people completely invincible in pvp.
If dps hit for half as much and the DC doesn't sit somewhere they can be knocked out of their AS easily? The ability would be monsterous.
12k rof. Doesn't happen. Calm down w Ur imaginary banter.
Offhand, only thing i can think of is Crystal Saga. I understand they did, at some point, fix modes so you could turn off PvP. When I played it it was broken, so always full, open world PvP, with no level brackets.
Think: NW with full out, constant, open world PvP; Lvl 60 epic PK specialty guilds camped at the entrance to Blackdagger Ruins...
Defiance PVP is a monstrous pile of ****.
lol my mistake.. was refering to icy rays not ray of frost.
Love the show though
Ah I was gonna say lol. Can't comment on that however as my cw doesn't use ir. Better encounters available imho.
Imagine NW pvp if literally every match had 9 rogues in it.
if ur a gf use frontline surge, bull charge, and lunging strike for your encounters, and threatening rush as your right at will and you will be jumping and lunging around so fast its hard for anyone to hit you.
No big heals but huge spike damage
Dailies on some classes nearly one-shotting people
Crowd control that is out of control
Watching that video made me wanna make a vodka and tonic and put my cool shades on (music was pretty **** chill.).
Getting back to Rogues and this PvP, Rangers and Scourge Warlock's damage will be worse than this if they do not put in a base line damage modifier for every class in PvP (or on gear). Currently right now, raw stats determine damage and people know this (Hence, t2 PvE gear ruling PvP currently.).
I mean if they put in other strikers and actually give GWF a solid role (Tank or dps.).
-Kymos
yeah, PvP sucks right now. Really bad.