I said this in another thread, and another and another and this one. Recent interview with a lead designer stated that a lot of players are unhappy with how the GWF is performing and that they are looking into ways to improve it.
Yeah but his leveling speed and potion chugging numbers are perfectly fine!!!!
Yeah but his leveling speed and potion chugging numbers are perfectly fine!!!!
OMFG yes!! When I heard him say that in the interview I spit my coffee all over the place. Seriously??? You balance your classes around leveling speed and ****ing potion usage??? Where the hell is Donald Trump when someone needs fired?
Actually I'm on my way as we speak. 46lv atm. The moment I got cleric companion was the moment everything started going nice.
What you say is what I say, its not that GWF is bad, its CW that is extremely overperforming. Same thing with TR, everyone knows they are over the top.
I've personally been with ONE sentinel GWF in group on T2 and it was awesome(I'm cleric), he managed to keep most of the stuff on himself somehow.
I'll say this again, its CWs and TRs extremely overperforming, not GWFs and GFs being weak, becase I've been in groups with them and they did extremely nice. But why have it nice, when you can faceroll with CWs and TRs?
Must be nice to be a complete idiot, or maybe just a troll/liar?
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gorillacherokMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 15Arc User
edited May 2013
leveling? u can go from lvl 40-60 in 1 day of pvp, leveling is not the issue
I said this in another thread, and another and another and this one. Recent interview with a lead designer stated that a lot of players are unhappy with how the GWF is performing and that they are looking into ways to improve it.
What he also said was that the 'feel' was not good, but the numbers told him that leveling was the same speed/pot-use as other classes. So i dont think you have to expect much from the devs in the near future... If they where able to tune the Gwf 60% down since open beta then there is not much hope imo..
I dont understand why the leveling is such a pain. Give us at least a harder hitting single attack.
I rerolled into a whole other game. I'm doing it wrong? Seriously though, I'm keeping a eye on the Fighter and updates. Maybe if our roars and shouts caused enemies to suicide off cliffs from the terror!
Today, I did Epic Kurrundax 2x on a GWF and on the first group I outDPS the rogue by 4 million and the CW but it took a while to complete the dungeon. Does that mean the GWF is good? No, it only means that the other were bads. On the second group we did it wayyy faster but I was 3rd in DPS because the rogue and CW knew what they were doing and I felt i was just another "add" I was there to be the group clown, they woulda been better off with another CW or TR.
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rollmassbandMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
In PvP the weakest class. In PvE far, far behind the damage of every tr. Still fun to play, but I don't find myself very usefull.
If damage isn't buffed, defense and threat generation should be increased so I could pull trashmops away from cws and clerics.
OMFG yes!! When I heard him say that in the interview I spit my coffee all over the place. Seriously??? You balance your classes around leveling speed and ****ing potion usage??? Where the hell is Donald Trump when someone needs fired?
*emphatic eyeroll* If you don't like your at-wills, then build your gwf with an eye for not using at-wills. Between savage strike and t1 set, you can at least improve the likelihood that you don't use at-wills if you aren't in unstoppable. Of course, then you aren't using aoe like we're "supposed" to do like everybody else is telling you to do. Oh well.
Just wish my low end damage was slightly higher of course. Critting 16k is nice, but when my low end is still 8.8k; it's averaging out not well.
I'm pretty much ranking 2nd or 3rd in damage dealt, 1st or 2nd in enemies killed, 1st or 2nd in damage taken, and 1st or 2nd in damage healed. From what I've read through multiple guides; the GWF isn't designed to be top of the list, a barbarian, or a warrior from WoW. It's a "get up in there and mix it up" type of class. I keep up the debuffs on groups of enemies and do continous AOE damage as well as decent single target. Makes things go a lot quicker in groups; and hell even in solo'ing. Utilizing Unstoppable is the best thing for GWF. I like the class. Just my opinion.
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nothvMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 4Arc User
I'm pretty much ranking 2nd or 3rd in damage dealt, 1st or 2nd in enemies killed, 1st or 2nd in damage taken, and 1st or 2nd in damage healed. From what I've read through multiple guides; the GWF isn't designed to be top of the list, a barbarian, or a warrior from WoW. It's a "get up in there and mix it up" type of class. I keep up the debuffs on groups of enemies and do continous AOE damage as well as decent single target. Makes things go a lot quicker in groups; and hell even in solo'ing. Utilizing Unstoppable is the best thing for GWF. I like the class. Just my opinion.
I like the class, that doesn't mean I look passed it's flaws. Gwf are not needed or even desired in groups. The other classes offer more control and similar AoE.
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biggest issue is at-will powers imo, i feel totally useless once my encounters are on cooldown...
big sword = slow, big damage
daggers, ranged = fast, moderate damage
not really the case right now
Yeah but his leveling speed and potion chugging numbers are perfectly fine!!!!
Must be nice to be a complete idiot, or maybe just a troll/liar?
What he also said was that the 'feel' was not good, but the numbers told him that leveling was the same speed/pot-use as other classes. So i dont think you have to expect much from the devs in the near future... If they where able to tune the Gwf 60% down since open beta then there is not much hope imo..
I dont understand why the leveling is such a pain. Give us at least a harder hitting single attack.
Seze - Rogue - Necropolis -
Oh cool a cat cape.
Good for you!
Now we need to get these other people that cry when they roll a GWF expecting TR's dps to reroll as well and everyone will be happy!
If damage isn't buffed, defense and threat generation should be increased so I could pull trashmops away from cws and clerics.
HAHAHA. How much I love a good laugh.
And yes I wholeheartedly agree with the Gorilla.
HAHAHA. I love this thread.
Just wish my low end damage was slightly higher of course. Critting 16k is nice, but when my low end is still 8.8k; it's averaging out not well.
I like the class, that doesn't mean I look passed it's flaws. Gwf are not needed or even desired in groups. The other classes offer more control and similar AoE.