No, it won't repair itself. See, here's the thing.. AD is like the american dollar. It only has VALUE because we assign it a value. That value is based on what people are willing to trade for it. i.e. you can buy a nice car for about $45,000.00. (I bought a 2012 Highlander). I worked about 3 months to be able to pay for that car (overseas war zone), so the car is worth 3 months of my labor to ME. Now, look at it this way. Say my neighbor created $10,000,000.00 dollars from nothing. He worked ZERO hours to get that money, so toyota sold him the car, and I would end up paying $90,000.00 for the same car, since toyota jacked up the price. Now, I had to work 6 months for the exact same thing. That's what EVERYONE who sold items for MILLIONS of AD just did. They sold their stuff to people who CHEATED and duped the AD. But, their money isn't REAL. The side effect, is that it effectively priced all the REAL workers out of the game, since we would have to work MUCH longer to get the same thing.
Having said that, the ONLY solution is a complete wipe. Wipe out ALL AD transactions, refund all the ZEN, starter pack AD, and start fresh. That's the ONLY way the 'economy' can recover. If only 1% of the cheaters keep their stolen 100 Million AD, then it will just come back and ruin the economy again.
Good thing you are an expert on virtual economy's.. oh wait.. you bought a highlander so you are not good at anything...
waylander007Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 17Arc User
edited May 2013
I think they should find out who actively and knowingly used the exploit.. then just reset the account to nothing, no characters, no items, no AD, no Zen, all games.. Total wipe, let them start from fresh and understand exploiting has its consequences.
You do the crime you get the time (to start all over again).
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rahkaralMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2013
Where is the pickle girl you are buying all these lovely pickles from? pickle on the stick!
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purpleorbesMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 186Bounty Hunter
edited May 2013
Can someone post a pic of a pickle with a miniture umbrella sticking out the top?
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kriemhildaMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
Remember. Be nice you will get more with honey than vinegar. They are doing all they can.
The saying is "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar"
Funny thing about that. If you make fly traps out of soda bottles & add honey in one & vinegar in another one, the honey trap will be empty and the vinegar will have a few flies in there. But if you really want to catch the most flies... you have to mix the honey AND the vinegar together. That's the trick to it. Now ponder what philosophical meaning you can extrapolate from that factual bit of folk wisdom.
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merkx71Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 11Arc User
edited May 2013
The plan is there is no plan.
or
The plan is to misdirect you from knowing the plan.
Sigh - I feel bad for us all, those of us waiting , and the developers - thats a mighty bug imo ... shoulda checked for that, but honestly how can you know - its beta
... side note I feel bad for the guy replying on Twitter - He's gettin his balls busted in and handeling it very well... keep up the good job man.
I'm off to bed, try again tomorrow... night all...
Ive only come in at the last 20pages or so, but all in all is there going to be a complete wipe at the end of the beta? some people say no, some say yes..
No, it won't repair itself. See, here's the thing.. AD is like the american dollar. It only has VALUE because we assign it a value. That value is based on what people are willing to trade for it. i.e. you can buy a nice car for about $45,000.00. (I bought a 2012 Highlander). I worked about 3 months to be able to pay for that car (overseas war zone), so the car is worth 3 months of my labor to ME. Now, look at it this way. Say my neighbor created $10,000,000.00 dollars from nothing. He worked ZERO hours to get that money, so toyota sold him the car, and I would end up paying $90,000.00 for the same car, since toyota jacked up the price. Now, I had to work 6 months for the exact same thing. That's what EVERYONE who sold items for MILLIONS of AD just did. They sold their stuff to people who CHEATED and duped the AD. But, their money isn't REAL. The side effect, is that it effectively priced all the REAL workers out of the game, since we would have to work MUCH longer to get the same thing.
Having said that, the ONLY solution is a complete wipe. Wipe out ALL AD transactions, refund all the ZEN, starter pack AD, and start fresh. That's the ONLY way the 'economy' can recover. If only 1% of the cheaters keep their stolen 100 Million AD, then it will just come back and ruin the economy again.
There is no need to wipe everything. All they need to is to revert all transaction that has it's source in abused AD.
I actually do think they should prosecute, it has actually effect the game and it's players lost money for them. pretty sure sony has successfully charged someone for such things.
Ive only come in at the last 20pages or so, but all in all is there going to be a complete wipe at the end of the beta? some people say no, some say yes..
Perfect World has given a clear statement that they will *not* do a wipe at the end of beta.
-Legal wants more time to cover their own butts. Management is trying to find an escape goat.
Thank you for this! When I read the words "escape goat", I laughed until I cried! Best thing I've read all day!
I'm seriously looking into buying my own escape goat at the moment. I think a White Shorthaired goat will suit me nicely - although the narcoleptic ones are almost as entertaining as your comment. : D
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cho83Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
Ive only come in at the last 20pages or so, but all in all is there going to be a complete wipe at the end of the beta? some people say no, some say yes..
Ive only come in at the last 20pages or so, but all in all is there going to be a complete wipe at the end of the beta? some people say no, some say yes..
Doesnt matter what some people say.. PWE/Cryptic has said no wipe from open to live
Seriously, with the amount of knowledge these kids have by going to OTHER sites and finding out all this truth on the internet I should just start asking you kids the REALLY tough questions.
So what is the meaning of life?
Can you link me the page?
*Smh*
I just go right to the questions.
You probably right(considering your statement), your life might not have any meaning.
Sure I can link you to the page. What part of your body you want to be linked?
Update 4:00PM Pacific: The Neverwinter Team is working to address this issue still including a very thorough investigation. More information will come with our next update.
from what i am hearing u plan to roll back ppl who used bug.
sorry much more needs doing ban them also roll back hole sever becase some used 2nd accounts for bug and sent it to another account.
even ones who dident use bug are effected as there items so on sold and some should not have sold some stuff was selling for 1 mill on ah instead 100k and so on them ppl did not cheat but there effect as well so please roll back hole sever 3 days . and ban all ppl who used bug more than 1 time, 1 time can be mistake more is not
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Why the hell would they wipe when they can just fix the AD problem with a simple rollback. Jeez. When you get a cold do you commit suicide?
Good thing you are an expert on virtual economy's.. oh wait.. you bought a highlander so you are not good at anything...
You do the crime you get the time (to start all over again).
....There can be only ONE!
The saying is "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar"
Funny thing about that. If you make fly traps out of soda bottles & add honey in one & vinegar in another one, the honey trap will be empty and the vinegar will have a few flies in there. But if you really want to catch the most flies... you have to mix the honey AND the vinegar together. That's the trick to it. Now ponder what philosophical meaning you can extrapolate from that factual bit of folk wisdom.
or
The plan is to misdirect you from knowing the plan.
ooh ooh ooh /e points finger its a troll! i see a troll
... side note I feel bad for the guy replying on Twitter - He's gettin his balls busted in and handeling it very well... keep up the good job man.
I'm off to bed, try again tomorrow... night all...
There is no need to wipe everything. All they need to is to revert all transaction that has it's source in abused AD.
with this post, i take it, things will be a while before they are fixed?
Perfect World has given a clear statement that they will *not* do a wipe at the end of beta.
Thank you for this! When I read the words "escape goat", I laughed until I cried! Best thing I've read all day!
I'm seriously looking into buying my own escape goat at the moment. I think a White Shorthaired goat will suit me nicely - although the narcoleptic ones are almost as entertaining as your comment. : D
Ty man I love you to
PS: Try to laugh from time to tame it's healthy u know
I have a very nice pickle.
When you have cancer you kill almost everything before rebuilding anew. This would "clear the air".
There will be wipes.
Your ZEN will be gone.
Your character will be gone.
Nothing will be saved.
Go back to playing WoW.
lol some peoples kids i tell ya. some folks should think before they speak
There is not going to be a wipe. They have said it several times on their twitter
https://twitter.com/NeverwinterGame
Doesnt matter what some people say.. PWE/Cryptic has said no wipe from open to live
I know! I'm so excited! O_O
I just go right to the questions.
You probably right(considering your statement), your life might not have any meaning.
Sure I can link you to the page. What part of your body you want to be linked?
from what i am hearing u plan to roll back ppl who used bug.
sorry much more needs doing ban them also roll back hole sever becase some used 2nd accounts for bug and sent it to another account.
even ones who dident use bug are effected as there items so on sold and some should not have sold some stuff was selling for 1 mill on ah instead 100k and so on them ppl did not cheat but there effect as well so please roll back hole sever 3 days . and ban all ppl who used bug more than 1 time, 1 time can be mistake more is not