I don't PvP & couldn't care less about it. In fact, I even think that for the most part, MMO PvP is a complete waste of developer time & resources, & if you're not going to balance & code your game for PvP FIRST, you shouldn't do it at all.
It's painfully obvious that this game was coded for PvE first & foremost, & PvP tacked on as an afterthought, just like every other MMO developer does it. So, IMO, if you're taking part in PvP, it's your own fault.
ok so 1 shot never castle boss isnt gamebreaking? flooding economy with highest lvl gear in game for super cheap prices and everybody geared to the teeth after first week? seems very stable. i change my logic and agree totally with you....
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watchyourbackMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
But, it doesn't affect ME, at this point, at all. Because I'm not anywhere near Castle Never. Instead, I'm happily blasting through mobs in the storyline quests & when I'm not reading this forum & getting infuriated by PW's incompetence, the game I'm PLAYING is a lot of fun.
The notion that the ENTIRE game is totally unbroken & unplayable is noxious hyperbolic garbage. Please re-think your claims.
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But, it doesn't affect ME, at this point, at all. Because I'm not anywhere near Castle Never. Instead, I'm happily blasting through mobs in the storyline quests & when I'm not reading this forum & getting infuriated by PW's incompetence, the game I'm PLAYING is a lot of fun.
The notion that the ENTIRE game is totally unbroken & unplayable is noxious hyperbolic garbage. Please re-think your claims.
game-breaking= totally broke sry
all thats left is just a sandbox. nothing more. dont have to do anything to get best gear in game at all. i can literally have end game gear donated to me from total strangers....
i can uderstand your point completely also. if you dont partake in anything social in game at all you can play all day every day and never really be affected. you can still enjoy the story/quest forsure but if you plan on taking part in any dungeons after you hit lvl 60 then it effects you directly. no point grinding out gear you can get almost free atm when it should take months to get. i quite enjoyed lvling up to 60 myself with no real issues but now that im 60 i dont even have to run 1 epic dungeon and be 10k+ gs never stepping foot into an epic dungeon....
Yea, Castle Never is broken. No kidding. But I'm about 99.9% certain that Castle Never is not the entire game, so "totally broke" is nonsense.
I think there's some sort of virus on these forums causing people to not be able to discern distinctions, or something.
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nemesis788450Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
i dunno, all are crying and have all those problems...i played through the whole game, did some pvp, am now trying to do some elite dungeons - always had fun, always had super groups, never had huge problems except the ****ed up queue system and am having just a great time...which makes me think youre all just whining and trolling
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watchyourbackMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
Yea, Castle Never is broken. No kidding. But I'm about 99.9% certain that Castle Never is not the entire game, so "totally broke" is nonsense.
I think there's some sort of virus on these forums causing people to not be able to discern distinctions, or something.
i only said CN because it is hardest boss and can be killed in 1 hit. sooooooooooooooooooo that must mean that ALLLLLLLLLLLL other dungeon bosses can fall in the EXACT same manner.
please people open your eyes and read for a sec before responding like that is the only dungeon it can be done at.
to make it clear to all of you with absolutly ZERO common sense this bug effects ALL dungeons/pvp. not just CN/pvp.
and these exploits exist because people like you blow them off and dont give a $hit.
i only said CN because it is hardest boss and can be killed in 1 hit. sooooooooooooooooooo that must mean that ALLLLLLLLLLLL other dungeon bosses can fall in the EXACT same manner.
please people open your eyes and read for a sec before responding like that is the only dungeon it can be done at.
to make it clear to all of you with absolutly ZERO common sense this bug effects ALL dungeons/pvp. not just CN/pvp.
And that only applies if you're level 60, if you are a GF or is grouped with one, and if you or the GF you're grouped with actually use the exploit (EDIT: or if you PvP, with other lv 60 people). Incidentally, because of how skirmishes are set up, it also means it doesn't apply to most of the existing skirmishes.
to make it clear to all of you with absolutly ZERO common sense this bug effects ALL dungeons/pvp. not just CN/pvp.
/sigh
I give up. You're either not competent to discern a difference between MASSIVE PARTS OF GAME ARE BROKEN, & "game is totally unplayable" or else you're trolling me.
It's absolutely true that massive parts of this game are broken. It's absolutely NOT true that the game is totally unplayable. If you can't, or won't, figure out the difference, then please just ignore me, & I'll happily return the favor. MTIA.
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Obviously not. But if proper care was taken to test game with large userbase instead of "just" releasing it - we would have been in much better state. Right now its completely unplayable.
That's weird that it's completely unplayable. I know a bunch of people that play daily and enjoy the game. Your statement speaks to the heart of the reasoning embodied in this thread.
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watchyourbackMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
I give up. You're either not competent to discern a difference between MASSIVE PARTS OF GAME ARE BROKEN, & "game is totally unplayable" or else you're trolling me.
It's absolutely true that massive parts of this game are broken. It's absolutely NOT true that the game is totally unplayable. If you can't, or won't, figure out the difference, then please just ignore me, & I'll happily return the favor. MTIA.
you and people like you are the reason these exploits are not being fixed right away. you couldnt care less.
you made your point. now get out of the way of people who do care
you and people like you are the reason these exploits are not being fixed right away. you couldnt care less.
/superduperdoubletriplefacepalmheaddesk
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watchyourbackMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
I can't respond any further, because I don't feel like being banned. But if I had an iggy list on these forums, you'd be the first name on it. Please, do the same for me, & have a nice day.
No. Exploits exist because the developers didn't test enough before they decided to start charging money for what should still be in Alpha.
We'll just disagree Chewby. I have Beta tested a few different games both TT an Video games now. I have seen folks exploit the rules that I and others thought were rock solid. It's the ingenuity of the gamer that finds a kink in the rule's armor and exploits it for everything it is worth. It sad to cause even if this is open beta we are supposed to report flaws we find, not profit off those flaws.
eploit nothing new mmorpg if you want a perfect mmorpg GO TO COLLEGE LEARN HOW TO PROGRAM and APPLY FOR CRYPTIC STUDIO. if you think you can do better. People who complain dont understand how programming works
That's weird that it's completely unplayable. I know a bunch of people that play daily and enjoy the game. Your statement speaks to the heart of the reasoning embodied in this thread.
Its not unplayable due to some technical issue. The sheer number of sploits just makes it have the replay value of contra after I learned what the Konami cheat code was and steamrolled it a few times in the same day.
Theres a technical difference there, but the end result is the same.
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watchyourbackMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
We'll just disagree Chewby. I have Beta tested a few different games both TT an Video games now. I have seen folks exploit the rules that I and others thought were rock solid. It's the ingenuity of the gamer that finds a kink in the rule's armor and exploits it for everything it is worth. It sad to cause even if this is open beta we are supposed to report flaws we find, not profit off those flaws.
yes and when found these problems need to be address immediately. not put off till next content patch is released then worked on.
It sad to cause even if this is open beta we are supposed to report flaws we find, not profit off those flaws.
This is where we agree completely.
Look at zone chat! It's full of people looking for GF's and CW's for "epic fast loot farms". Come on Cryptic DO SOMETHING useful instead of releasing a patch that only puts money back into your pockets.
lol obviously another uniformed person responding ignorantly
the exploits live on....
Then why not illuminate me and remove my ignorance? Please explain how the economy is being broken.
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zaxyllMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 4Arc User
edited May 2013
There will always be exploits of some type ... the more sophisticated the game the more complex the code.
Test servers or open beta with character wipes still won't prevent exploits. This is because dishonest "testers"seek out and make notes of the exploits they find for their own use and never report them.
Sometimes it isn't possible to fix exploits quickly.
Does this mean hope is lost? No.
Anyone who exploits should be banned. First offenders can get a temporary ban if want some leniency. All gains from exploiting should ALWAYS be removed.
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watchyourbackMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
yes and when found these problems need to be address immediately. not put off till next content patch is released then worked on.
The fix could require more than just a simple patch. I read a bunch of crying over nerfs the Foundry took so I can see the DEVs are trying. But what do you do after you find out a large chunk of your player base has cheated the system?
eploit nothing new mmorpg if you want a perfect mmorpg GO TO COLLEGE LEARN HOW TO PROGRAM and APPLY FOR CRYPTIC STUDIO. if you think you can do better. People who complain dont understand how programming works
Be a PnP Beta tester some day! Exploiting predates MMOs
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ok so 1 shot never castle boss isnt gamebreaking? flooding economy with highest lvl gear in game for super cheap prices and everybody geared to the teeth after first week? seems very stable. i change my logic and agree totally with you....
close minded....ignored
Of course it's game-breaking.
But, it doesn't affect ME, at this point, at all. Because I'm not anywhere near Castle Never. Instead, I'm happily blasting through mobs in the storyline quests & when I'm not reading this forum & getting infuriated by PW's incompetence, the game I'm PLAYING is a lot of fun.
The notion that the ENTIRE game is totally unbroken & unplayable is noxious hyperbolic garbage. Please re-think your claims.
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
game-breaking= totally broke sry
all thats left is just a sandbox. nothing more. dont have to do anything to get best gear in game at all. i can literally have end game gear donated to me from total strangers....
i can uderstand your point completely also. if you dont partake in anything social in game at all you can play all day every day and never really be affected. you can still enjoy the story/quest forsure but if you plan on taking part in any dungeons after you hit lvl 60 then it effects you directly. no point grinding out gear you can get almost free atm when it should take months to get. i quite enjoyed lvling up to 60 myself with no real issues but now that im 60 i dont even have to run 1 epic dungeon and be 10k+ gs never stepping foot into an epic dungeon....
Yea, Castle Never is broken. No kidding. But I'm about 99.9% certain that Castle Never is not the entire game, so "totally broke" is nonsense.
I think there's some sort of virus on these forums causing people to not be able to discern distinctions, or something.
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
i only said CN because it is hardest boss and can be killed in 1 hit. sooooooooooooooooooo that must mean that ALLLLLLLLLLLL other dungeon bosses can fall in the EXACT same manner.
please people open your eyes and read for a sec before responding like that is the only dungeon it can be done at.
to make it clear to all of you with absolutly ZERO common sense this bug effects ALL dungeons/pvp. not just CN/pvp.
and these exploits exist because people like you blow them off and dont give a $hit.
And that only applies if you're level 60, if you are a GF or is grouped with one, and if you or the GF you're grouped with actually use the exploit (EDIT: or if you PvP, with other lv 60 people). Incidentally, because of how skirmishes are set up, it also means it doesn't apply to most of the existing skirmishes.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
/sigh
I give up. You're either not competent to discern a difference between MASSIVE PARTS OF GAME ARE BROKEN, & "game is totally unplayable" or else you're trolling me.
It's absolutely true that massive parts of this game are broken. It's absolutely NOT true that the game is totally unplayable. If you can't, or won't, figure out the difference, then please just ignore me, & I'll happily return the favor. MTIA.
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
That's weird that it's completely unplayable. I know a bunch of people that play daily and enjoy the game. Your statement speaks to the heart of the reasoning embodied in this thread.
you and people like you are the reason these exploits are not being fixed right away. you couldnt care less.
you made your point. now get out of the way of people who do care
No. Exploits exist because the developers didn't test enough before they decided to start charging money for what should still be in Alpha.
/superduperdoubletriplefacepalmheaddesk
I can't respond any further, because I don't feel like being banned. But if I had an iggy list on these forums, you'd be the first name on it. Please, do the same for me, & have a nice day.
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
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not a problem mr troll
That is where you are dead wrong. A game can be tested for years and still end up with an exploit.
Its not unplayable due to some technical issue. The sheer number of sploits just makes it have the replay value of contra after I learned what the Konami cheat code was and steamrolled it a few times in the same day.
Theres a technical difference there, but the end result is the same.
yes and when found these problems need to be address immediately. not put off till next content patch is released then worked on.
Easy as that. Thats how open beta should work.
But yeah given how people cry 30 seconds after server gets shut down due to number of users and need to reboot I can see why they dont do it.
"We're looking into missing dailies. Hang tight and you'll be questing in no time!"
Thats cute.
This is where we agree completely.
Look at zone chat! It's full of people looking for GF's and CW's for "epic fast loot farms". Come on Cryptic DO SOMETHING useful instead of releasing a patch that only puts money back into your pockets.
When making that claim you need to explain why you think there is an economy breaking exploit in existence.
I wonder if you seen screenshot of dude 200mil made from castle never t2 drops he sold.
lol obviously another uniformed person responding ignorantly
the exploits live on....
Then why not illuminate me and remove my ignorance? Please explain how the economy is being broken.
Test servers or open beta with character wipes still won't prevent exploits. This is because dishonest "testers"seek out and make notes of the exploits they find for their own use and never report them.
Sometimes it isn't possible to fix exploits quickly.
Does this mean hope is lost? No.
Anyone who exploits should be banned. First offenders can get a temporary ban if want some leniency. All gains from exploiting should ALWAYS be removed.
read it for yourself. not doing your job to stay informed for u troll