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Will you please get rid of these companions out of Dungeons
shadow71
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 50
Okay I can understand the reason to have companions in game however what makes no sense to me is the fact they are in dungeons with groups. I roll tanks toons and have been doing it back since the late 90s I play no other characters at all. One of the most annoying things I have experiences in this game is running while three other people choice was to have their tank companion out.
Why is it that you think we roll tanks Cryptic/PW? Because we like to tank mobs. It is not because we like to dps or even heal. We like to tank which means we want all the aggro directed at US! It is enough that we have to fight for aggro from groups yet to have us fighting aggro from the groups plus the tank companions is down right silly. I don't understand who decision it was to have companions enter dungeons with us but you really need to rethink that ideal better yet get rid of it before you loose tons of tanks within your game.
I for one don't have a problem with tanking in this game but it makes it so hard trying to go up against a AI when it doesn't have to manually move his mouse/trackball and target.
So would you please get rid of these companions from dungeons they can only hinder people from rolling tank characters if we find that we are useless because of some AI input.
Why is it that you think we roll tanks Cryptic/PW? Because we like to tank mobs. It is not because we like to dps or even heal. We like to tank which means we want all the aggro directed at US! It is enough that we have to fight for aggro from groups yet to have us fighting aggro from the groups plus the tank companions is down right silly. I don't understand who decision it was to have companions enter dungeons with us but you really need to rethink that ideal better yet get rid of it before you loose tons of tanks within your game.
I for one don't have a problem with tanking in this game but it makes it so hard trying to go up against a AI when it doesn't have to manually move his mouse/trackball and target.
So would you please get rid of these companions from dungeons they can only hinder people from rolling tank characters if we find that we are useless because of some AI input.
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Yeah, they'll get right on that. Not like the companion system is a core game system or anything, nope…
Edit: not to mention the money they make off of them in the Zen store, LOL. Keep dreaming.
This....as a cleric, I need my tank companion when I solo, but when I group fro dungeons, I always pull out my CW buddy to help with the crowds of mobs coming at me.
Basically, dont restrict EVERYONE just so you can be the tank. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite our face.
The fact that they are up in dungeons is very silly.
Thank you for presenting this excellent reasoning! I'm sure we can all agree that the arguments you put forth to support your point are very well thought out and hard to refute. Your continued feedback makes this game better every day.
Companions are pretty much a core design point of this game. They are like your squires as you are a Knight. Your second as you are a Samurai. Your assistant as you are a Director. They are always there to help, and rarely get in the way, but not everyone likes them. If you have in issue with companions, there is an option to dismiss yours, and you can politely ask for others to do the same. Though with how absurdly difficult some of the boss fights are with the amount of adds they send at you, most will say no and keep their minions out anyway. But PLEASE dont force your view on me and MAKE me put mine away. I dont like your idea, and I dont want it shoved down my throat. I dont shove it down your throat that you need to buy inventory slots, or use certain skill builds. Why force your opinion of optional game mechanics on me?
If you don't want them to have their tank companion out just tell them so, if they do have it out it's probably because it's the only one they have.
Heck, the top groups that are trying Castle Never all have either cats or Ioun stones. Those are the ones that solve all the problems he seems to be complaining about. Basically make you better, aggro the same as if they weren't there. If you take them out, you are a lower quality than if you had them.
The biggest problem i have is seeing those white level companions in epics, healers and tanks, and they are next to useless, and the players with them never ever seem to use potions.
This is why we have three slots to begin with, by 60 and running epics you should have more than what everyone takes (healer) first, (even if it's just another type of white one bought with gold) and be good enough to know which to pull out when. Even if you don't buy a better with zen or AD or whatever, you should know which one is best for dungeons.
Personally, i love companions in dungeons. it's part of what sets this game apart from most others.
Still, here's my solution for you if you have a huge problem with them. Let them tank and fall and then you pick up. You only need to pull the mobs off party members. Works wonders for me.
Now, if only we could get rid of other players and just have a group of companions...
(side note: yes I know that STO does that, and that's why I love it.)
so lets see here a HAMSTER lvl 15 going into a lvl 60+ dungeon....yea that makes sense.
TBH, I have a pheora(firebird) with decent equips and it still is not that great.
In short.....yes please get rid of the comp. in dungeons, all they do is take up space and frustrate your tank.
Be respectful, remember, you PLAY the game at your convenience, they WORK at no ones."
Againa, as I said earlier, dont force your ideas on the rest of us that enjoy companions in dungeons. For lower level dungeons, most people use healers and tanks, thoguh some might even use CW pals. Later game people start reverting to buff pets, like Cats and Ion Stones for buffs so they are more effective heroes. If you go into a late game dungeons and someone is still using a rank 15 pet, then your probably in a bad team and wont do well anyway. This is all hearsay on my part, my best is a 41 cleric and I use tank pet solo, and CW pet grouped.
lol
As a tank if you can demand that tank pets are dismissed. If they say no leave group. If your group leader kick the scrubs who wont switch pets.
Furthermore, yes the buffs are nice, but when it comes down to it...companions go down fast most of the time, and I have even seen a few cases where we had to stow them to get the glitched agro off us.
I am fine with this dilemma either way, but I would "vote" against them.
Be respectful, remember, you PLAY the game at your convenience, they WORK at no ones."
He isn't getting the top damage taken? I'm not actually certain why he would object to not taking as much damage.
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Irrelevant that they only go to 15. Particularly the healing and other support companions.
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ok, so take away your most valued skill, then take one piece of your armor off.
now tell me, do you feel Irrelevant?
Be respectful, remember, you PLAY the game at your convenience, they WORK at no ones."
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I dont think minions can be in the little goofy leaderboards at the end of a run. And I agree with the previous statement... why the hell is this guy complaining that a bot is taking his aggro. Him not having aggro means he is able to survive better and get healed more efficiently by the cleric. Thats bad?
As far as I can tell no.
Companion diverts damage from me to it.
I take less damage which lets me survive longer and do my job better.
WIN!!!!
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Dude how long have you been playing MMOs? I been doing it since the late 90s... have you ever tried to tell anyone anything in an MMO and they listen to it? And like I said before and I guess you didn't even bother to listen. IAM A TANK fighting for aggro from a group is a thing I like to do. Fighting from aggro from an AI tank is just plain stupid. If I taunt a mob off you that is what I suppose to do but when I have to use that taunt to take it off a freaking AI which I can't tell it is on one or not due to the fact they have no indicator of such then that is a wasted taunt that could be taken from a player to save his/her life. Learn to read please.
nope, I do ok on a consistent basis, but I am no star.
and if you think there is no problem, then you sir are senile.
Be respectful, remember, you PLAY the game at your convenience, they WORK at no ones."
OMG SERIOUSLY? Are you reading? Iam a TANK which means I want the aggro on me. Is it that hard to figure out what a tank is? We like the aggro we want the aggro we rolled a tank for the aggro.
Well what is the problem? So their taking some of the aggro from you to them?
AND?
I just don't see the problem here. You don't get experience or other rewards based on how well you personally tanked so if someones companion also tanked this is bad why? How does it harm the situation. It actually looks to me like it would make things better if their companion tanked along side of you.
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Point! /endgame
Be respectful, remember, you PLAY the game at your convenience, they WORK at no ones."
you sound like you want to cause more problems than you solve as a tank. I understand, but if you take less damage, then you survive longer and the cleric wont have to nonstop heal you, they get minor breaks in between so the can regain their healing abilities and they can time their heals better and more effeciently. You sir, are more of a problem than you like to think companions are.
Not quite. Why bother taunting a pet ai aggro away. You can either
A. Let it tank and die
B. Let it tank while you deal dmg/look for other things to tank(usually NO shortage of things to steal aggro from in dungeons)
C. Pull aggro and waste your taunt like an imbecile.
Seems pretty obvious A and B are much better than what you do (C)