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bridgemongerbridgemonger Member Posts: 194 Bounty Hunter
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Briefly, I am over 30 and have been in MMO's for 10 years. OF those years, this genre is the one I prefer without a doubt more than any other game, Fantasy. Everquest 1&2, till WoW killed it. I have tired Aion, AoC, SWtOR, and Rift. Of them all, I like NWN your game the best right now. It's the game I want to play. WoW is tired. I have spent well over $2k on the games, subs, and various unlocks for a fee- server transfers -bags- etc.

I started last weekend and I have a 40TR and 30CW. I like them both. I see lots of things that I might be willing to spend money on unlocking, but I am a relative buyer. And right now, my feelings relative to this game are beyond frustrating. It is an MMO. I want to play the game with other players. Now, let me tell you about my last 2 experiences on my TR @ 40 totaling a time of about 3 hours.

I logged on today got my dailies, qued for the dungeon daily, and about 15 minutes later I got a group. About an hour later I was at the last boss in Wolf Den. Guess what happened, people stood in the fire and couldn't kill adds. A player that was very good left the group ... and now there's nothing we can do to replace them. So, I just wasted about 1.5 hours to be failed by a feature that works in the beginning of dungeons but not at the end.

1) Your QUEUE feature.

Fix it so you don't drop players on their face after an 1.5 hrs time. Keep in mind I am of the bit oldie demographic and I have a slightly longer time before I drop the controller and look for something new, or just go back to the same old MMO. I seriously doubt the younger players will be as ... hopeful?

2) Whenever I am on YOUR website, if I am not careful where I place my mouse or even if I try to click on things that appear to be log-ins ...I get bombarded with adds? Really?

Are you that guy at Best Buy who's about 20 feet away and watchers coworker approach me, and after seeing possibly even hearing me say, "I don't need any help," you walk up and ask me the same question again...
It reminds me of the people in Protectors Enclave asking for gold so they can get a mount. Except of course you want my money. Bad.

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2) This issue has been corrected and was a result of a game DL from you're 3rd party link to file planet. playtopus was bundled into the DL and I missed it.

3) The respec cost of IRL $10. Seriously?
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This is serious feedback not a troll. If you have a gripe (players) let them know just try to be coherent? I hope I was.
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  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I have a slightly longer time before I drop the controller

    Stopped reading there.

    regular casual banter. nothing to see here.

    EDIT: inb4 you start crying, proof you are a casual :
    drop players on their face after an 1.5 hrs time.

    90 minutes to do the den, and not even kill the boss? You should look for a better controller. ROFL
  • elyrielleelyrielle Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Agreed with the queue/party system, it needs some tweaks to make it work better. Haven't had the ad experience you seem to be getting though.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    1) That is an issue, possibly it will be looked at after release of the game?

    2) what? I have not seen the first ad on the site, what are you clicking on and where? Some malware will bring up random ads, are you possibly infested?
  • bridgemongerbridgemonger Member Posts: 194 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Stopped reading there.

    regular casual banter. nothing to see here.

    EDIT: inb4 you start crying, proof you are a casual :



    90 minutes to do the den, and not even kill the boss? You should look for a better controller. ROFL

    This is what a control dropper looks like before he drops the controller. Flame elswhere troll. Grown folk are talking. Les you can solo the last boss in wolf den. stfu, or gtfo.

    math little one, que time+ run time+ 3 attempts = 1.5 hours
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  • bluedarkybluedarky Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    1. If you're talking about the login queues, then your client is bugged. If you're talking about the ingame queues for Dungeons and Skirmishes then that's not all Cryptic's fault, there's a constant reminder at the top of the screen that you're queued and the queue system will try to get you into an instance ASAP. I suspect that part of the problem could be lack of players in lower level queues, but this is an issue most games suffer.
    2. It sounds like your system is infested with Malware, download something like Malwarebytes to resolve it ASAP, if it is infected with Malware then it could be infected with Keyloggers and other malicious software too. As a matter of note I don't use popup blockers or ad blockers and have never had popups or any other ads on PWE's sites other than the standard banner ads in the forums.
  • watchyourbackwatchyourback Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Stopped reading there.

    regular casual banter. nothing to see here.

    oh your so cool to be able to ignore the rest of his thread and then post trash after.... great feed back man. this community will go places with people like you.....


    to the op i have had the same probs in dungeons and it gets really old really fast. i find that as of recently ive been spending more time on the forums looking for solutions/feedback than actually playing anymore.....already.....i love the difficulty of the dungeons but when someone leaves because they cant handle it there is noway to replace them and everybody fails after investing all that time in the first place. there are some things to do to help me get past this problem but its not the best option as a whole to the community. first dont join random que to be placed in the instance with random class/players. matchmaking is broken so joining up with people you know will help tremendously. make sure you and all members of your party are geared properly for the dungeon you intend on doing. if done at beginning then you can replace anybody that shouldnt be there yet. if you cant replace then leave early so they can replace you.


    btw queue times for lvl 60 epic runs is still very very long. i spent over an hour and a half yesterday in a que for a simple epic run only to drop que and form a party with guild and join. ive never had a quick que up yet unless i join que with atleast a 3 man party. if i join que solo i dont see getting in for a few hours atleast. atleast thats my experiance so far. que is just a nightmare.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This is what a control dropper looks like before he drops the controller. Flame elswhere troll. Grown folk are talking. Les you can solo the last boss in wolf den. stfu, or gtfo.

    math little one, que time+ run time+ 3 attempts = 1.5 hours

    I've been playing MMOs for 10 years and I use a controller! Oh and it takes me 90 minutes to do half hour instances!

    IM OLDER THAN YOU THOUGH SO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALk.

    Ever stop to think that maybe the common denominator in those parties was the problem?
  • labbblabbb Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Can't the group leader remove the gone player and request a new one ? I have done that . It seems to pick the first to accept as group leader .
  • avarigirlavarigirl Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    you say casual like that's a bad thing.
  • elyrielleelyrielle Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    labbb wrote: »
    Can't the group leader remove the gone player and request a new one ? I have done that . It seems to pick the first to accept as group leader .

    Perhaps it's buggy, as I had a similar experience to the OP in that we got to the end of a dungeon and wiped a few times on the boss and people left. I was made leader and couldn't figure out how to replace people (there was no way to get back in the queue).
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    avarigirl wrote: »
    you say casual like that's a bad thing.

    when casuals cry because they wiped, and someone left their party because it was a huge waste of time, and then said casual litters forums with their useless rants, yes its a bad thing.

    if it takes him 90 minutes to run an instance and then he wipes on the boss, I'd be leaving too. That being said, I rarely PUG becuase I get stuck with casuals who use remote controllers, sooooo yeah.

    casuals = bads
  • bridgemongerbridgemonger Member Posts: 194 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    it was playtopus ... the ads that was installed when I installed the game from a 3rd party website that PWE provides a link to. The ads only came up on this site, for other games. I took it out.

    The Queue systems works instantly in my experience at the start of a dungeon, or even in the middle. But both times I have gotten into a wolf den, people fail and leave and I could stand in there for 30 minutes and not get a party I'm the only one in there and nothing happens .... how long should I stand there before I get a party after I have been in queue for an est. 15m-30m to get in ... followed by an hour or so of running around? It doesn't even replace just one person in 15 minutes time .... at the last boss. but anywhere else in the dungeon it seems - it's instant.
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  • watchyourbackwatchyourback Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I've been playing MMOs for 10 years and I use a controller! Oh and it takes me 90 minutes to do half hour instances!

    IM OLDER THAN YOU THOUGH SO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALk.

    Ever stop to think that maybe the common denominator in those parties was the problem?

    reported for trolling with nonconstructive negetive banter.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    reported for trolling with nonconstructive negetive banter.

    *negative

    good luck with that
  • bridgemongerbridgemonger Member Posts: 194 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    when casuals cry because they wiped, and someone left their party because it was a huge waste of time, and then said casual litters forums with their useless rants, yes its a bad thing.

    if it takes him 90 minutes to run an instance and then he wipes on the boss, I'd be leaving too. That being said, I rarely PUG becuase I get stuck with casuals who use remote controllers, sooooo yeah.

    casuals = bads
    10 years is casual? a 40 and 30 since may 1st is casual? I haven't EXP farmed foundry maps. if that's what you mean by you're being pro. I explore content. I don't like not being able to replace, casuals or trolls with big mouths' talking about casuals and being baddies on the last boss of an hour's + time investment.
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  • bluedarkybluedarky Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ignoring the arguements, what's the situation with your second problem OP, if you need any help cleaning your system you can send me a PM and I'll do my best to help.
  • bridgemongerbridgemonger Member Posts: 194 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    bluedarky wrote: »
    ignoring the arguements, what's the situation with your second problem OP, if you need any help cleaning your system you can send me a PM and I'll do my best to help.
    I got it removed, was a hidden program bundled with the game install from the 3rd party link.
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  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    10 years is casual? a 40 and 30 since may 1st is casual? I haven't EXP farmed foundry maps. if that's what you mean by you're being pro. I explore content. I don't like not being able to replace, casuals or trolls with big mouths' talking about casuals and being baddies on the last boss of an hour's + time investment.

    You could be playing for 20 years and still be bad.

    All I'm saying is, if you wouldn't wipe in the first place, people wouldn't be leaving. So it's your job to give them advice/criticism, or just plain carry them through the content, and you wont be having this problem. I'm seriously not trying to troll, although I think it's pretty ridiculous that people play this with a controller, with all the keybinds and such.

    I have a 17 button Naga, and I still find I could use more keybinds. I have no idea how you do it with a remote controller.
  • bridgemongerbridgemonger Member Posts: 194 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    For the record, if you were never on a phone list for world bosses in WoW, you're casual.


    and apparently someone needs to inform the bulk of the people reading this on "figures of speech."

    I probably failed to "-", but never the less, "drop the controller" ... is a figure of speech.
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  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    For the record, if you were never on a phone list for world bosses in WoW, you're casual.

    For the record, WoW is a game for casuals. I've never played after my 60 rogue back in '04

    EDIT: Now I just know you're talking out your rear-end, because you could never compete in WoW with a remote controller.
  • bluedarkybluedarky Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I got it removed, was a hidden program bundled with the game install from the 3rd party link.

    NP, don't think I don't care about the first problem, but as an IT Tech I put system security above an ingame issue like the first one.

    As I said earlier though, the queue problem will likely fix itself at the level cap due to more people queuing up there.
  • bridgemongerbridgemonger Member Posts: 194 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    You could be playing for 20 years and still be bad.

    All I'm saying is, if you wouldn't wipe in the first place, people wouldn't be leaving. So it's your job to give them advice/criticism, or just plain carry them through the content, and you wont be having this problem. I'm seriously not trying to troll, although I think it's pretty ridiculous that people play this with a controller, with all the keybinds and such.

    I have a 17 button Naga, and I still find I could use more keybinds. I have no idea how you do it with a remote controller.

    I'm not sure how I am to single handed-ly prevent a wipe. Not that I don't have a problem with wiping really, long as there is progress, and or people listen to comments made after the wipe to help. The fact that I cannot continue once other people leave .... is a bad experience.
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  • bridgemongerbridgemonger Member Posts: 194 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    bluedarky wrote: »
    NP, don't think I don't care about the first problem, but as an IT Tech I put system security above an ingame issue like the first one.

    As I said earlier though, the queue problem will likely fix itself at the level cap due to more people queuing up there.
    is it that though? we had someone DC'd at the front end, kicked, replaced instantly. I get all the people who think they are "So hardcore" talking about pugs, but then, I say you don't have any sort of previous commitment, or are fully invested into this game. I am debating if I should pull funding for an other game to play this one. I am a comparison shopper.
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  • glaknarglaknar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 45
    edited May 2013
    Stopped reading there.

    regular casual banter. nothing to see here.

    EDIT: inb4 you start crying, proof you are a casual :



    90 minutes to do the den, and not even kill the boss? You should look for a better controller. ROFL

    Glad to see rude till lives on the forums...
  • watchyourbackwatchyourback Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    For the record, if you were never on a phone list for world bosses in WoW, you're casual.


    and apparently someone needs to inform the bulk of the people reading this on "figures of speech."

    I probably failed to "-", but never the less, "drop the controller" ... is a figure of speech.
    its old school term. i guess only people who played pitfall know what you meant....
  • bridgemongerbridgemonger Member Posts: 194 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ghostlands/Bridgemonger/simple horde toon.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/winterhoof/Whitebow/simple alliance.

    you stopped playing in o4, you admitted it. you're a control dropper. I am 8 years invested into WoW. I haven't dropped the controller yet. Maybe if you think really hard, you'll get it.
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  • mmcsky1mmcsky1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ghostlands/Bridgemonger/simple horde toon.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/winterhoof/Whitebow/simple alliance.

    you stopped playing in o4, you admitted it. you're a control dropper. I am 8 years invested into WoW. I haven't dropped the controller yet. Maybe if you think really hard, you'll get it.

    At this point we can agree, the wow reject/CoD kid is just trying to troll, he has been called out by this point he is just making a fool of himself.

    Btw ( to the troll) using "casual" as an argument is old, and frankly makes you look bad, your "elitist" attitude only shows that you have been spending your life playing a game too much, grow up,adapt and understand.

    Going to the topic at hand, I have tanked several times,Dps either drops before boss or just disconnects and never comes back, so we are stuck with a group of 4 and get the boss to 50 percent or so before we wipe to the humongous amounts of adds.
    Worse yet, the LFG makes such horrible group combos ( 4 rogues what? no healer, or all melee and no CW), the LFG needs a big adjustment,people in my server have gone as far as making groups rather than wait for LFG.

    I guess there is something positive in this, we all learn to make groups rather than risk it with LFG.Though it would be nice if the tool worked, since it is there to be used.
  • watchyourbackwatchyourback Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    says
    I'm seriously not trying to troll

    after saying...
    Stopped reading there.

    regular casual banter. nothing to see here.

    EDIT: inb4 you start crying, proof you are a casual :

    i think someone is confused here...
  • morinoxmorinox Member Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ghostlands/Bridgemonger/simple horde toon.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/winterhoof/Whitebow/simple alliance.

    you stopped playing in o4, you admitted it. you're a control dropper. I am 8 years invested into WoW. I haven't dropped the controller yet. Maybe if you think really hard, you'll get it.

    You're linking to toons that have, well, LFR gear... That's kinda pointless though, seeing as LFR in WOW requires little to no tactics or communication between players, and the fact that the gear is practically welfare gear for the players not being able/not capable enough to do proper raids.

    What were you trying to accomplish by linking to those two toons anyway? Respect? On these forums? For doing LFR in WOW??

    Protip: Don't link anything wow-related on any F2P game forum if you're not prepared to be flamed.

    On-topic: You can't expect random players to behave exactly the way you want them to behave. This is an online game and if you've played WOW for, as you say, 8 years, then you should already know that.

    You can replace party members that are listed as offline or the players who left the party, though as this IS still in BETA (Drop the whole it's a full release bullcrap already, it's open beta even though they enabled the cash shop), you have to expect bugs. Even more so cause it's a F2P game, kids playing the betas believe they're playing a "demo" and never report any major issues, thus the devs have a hard time fixing them.
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  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    morinox wrote: »
    You're linking to toons that have, well, LFR gear... That's kinda pointless though, seeing as LFR in WOW requires little to no tactics or communication between players, and the fact that the gear is practically welfare gear for the players not being able/not capable enough to do proper raids.

    What were you trying to accomplish by linking to those two toons anyway? Respect? On these forums? For doing LFR in WOW??

    Protip: Don't link anything wow-related on any F2P game forum if you're not prepared to be flamed.

    On-topic: You can't expect random players to behave exactly the way you want them to behave. This is an online game and if you've played WOW for, as you say, 8 years, then you should already know that.

    I don't know wtf you are talking about, but +1. I knew he was a casual at heart.
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