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kimmurieloblodra
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Players may now report Terms of Service violations when dropping a Foundry quest.
Foundry experience has been tweaked for balancing purposes.
Hah, <removed>.
Did you actually think what you were doing was ok? Just because it is possible to do something, doesn't make it right. But Cryptic still dropped the ball: They should be reverting all foundry experience point gains to 0, in cases where the exploitation is obvious.
At least it's a step in the right direction, I suppose.
Players may now report Terms of Service violations when dropping a Foundry quest.
Foundry experience has been tweaked for balancing purposes.
Hah, <removed>.
Did you actually think what you were doing was ok? Just because it is possible to do something, doesn't make it right. But Cryptic still dropped the ball: They should be reverting all foundry experience point gains to 0, in cases where the exploitation is obvious.
At least it's a step in the right direction, I suppose.
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I'm usually playing a tank, and this going the way WoW's dungeons go, just accelerated rather highly -> nobody really does them more than once for the quest. All people do dungeon-wise are the endgame dungeons for items. Which is fine and dandy, because that's what the purpose is, but if you don't reward people with a suitable amount of experience while they level, most will just skip the dungeons. I know I did a dungeon or two, but since the tanking system is so **** weird and not at all intuitive, I can't blame anyone for not wanting to do any dungeon.
Seriously, the threat system is wonky at best. The active block and the rest though is AMAZING! I like the way it works with positioning and avoiding the big stuff, but by god the aggro system is utter garbage compared to WoW's threat system. I know everyone is sick having to compare everything to WoW, but anyone with a half a brain will understand that there's a reason WHY.
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Some people don't play WoW, by the way. And these same people are fine with the fact that this is not WoW 2.0, nor is it meant to be.
WoW didn't invent the aggro system, and didn't even revolutionize it. There's other games that do it even better
Sorry zeb. Any word on if they received any kind of account suspension at least, though?
In other games I've played, exploiters got their experience rolled back. I know this would <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> off alot of potential customers, but Cryptic should still do SOMETHING to deter this kind of behavior in the future.
I don't know this, but it's my hypothesis based on many forum posts I've read. If this is true, then KUDOS to the Devs for this. If I am mistaken, I'm hopeful they'll think of it and consider it.
Now that there is a way to report ToS violations on aborted quests all the better. This is kind of one of those "Huh, why didn't we think of this before" moments for all of us (Devs and Foundry Beta Testers) I think!
Getting to max level in a few hours in an MMORPG is not "working as intended" no matter how you try to justify it. If they want to try X class, roll that class, get through content quickly, and try the class. Don't exploit a flawed mechanic simply because you can.
You can't tell me clumping up ogres in a box where they can't fight back, and doing this endlessly 1-60 in a few hours was how the devs intended us to use the Foundry. Sorry, but you are just plain wrong. It has nothing to do with "playing the way I do", they are exploiting a flaw in the system and they got caught, plain and simple. And now they can't do it anymore because Cryptic patched it, which is the proof that they were doing something wrong in the first place.
. . . . . This is true. Many authors found to be maliciously making these exploit missions have not only been banned and are being banned but have had and are having their projects removed entirely. Those found to be abusing these missions in a manner in which there is no room for doubt that the user is knowingly exploiting, are also subject to being banned.
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Does that mean that non-grinding Foundry missions will give less xp too?
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I don't play Foundry, so I wouldn't really know exactly, but I read tons of forum posts and this is what I'm talking about
. . . . . Some authors decided to exploit game mechanics and bugs in the foundry to make some objectionable missions that provided means to exploit even further.
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Fair enough
I see. Bad players.
I always thought about this though, when I heard the term player generated content. Create a mission you know can grant a lot of XP, is pretty easy and quick that you can farm over and over again. Is this an exploit deemed by PWE/Cryptic? Or is this even possible by the foundry system? I mean, I see people trying to farm foundry, but is it any better XP/reward wise than just playing the game(questing, dungeons, foundry, skirmishes all mixed in)?
Are they decreased over the whole foundry or do you get the exp like before, but after a while its over?
I love foundries, I usually play 6-10 a day. Does this exploit-safety concern me?
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Not anymore, Not after 8 AM PST, at least
. . . . Just keep common sense. If it seems wrong, it probably is. Unfortunately, I cannot go into details until it is clear the exploit has been nixed.
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+1 taking a stance, and the right one.
In FFXIV my Conjurer got rolled back 15 some levels at launch because healing my party was giving too much SP. I was in a 5 man static, and I was level 32 conjurer while they were 15-16 of their job.
And that wasn't even in OB, that game was launched. Devs can make mistakes in the implementation of their math model, it happens. Like Zeb says, if it feels wrong, it probably is.
forum ignoring this troll.
I would like to correct or provide some info about what you talk about. When I play an mmo, I love the challenge of fast leveling on my first chars. This is something of a mind set of players.
I don't whine on the forums about content, that is just the mindless rabble who give 'rushers' a bad name.
So are Foundry quests worthwhile still? Can I do them once or twice a day, and get decent XP/reward? Im just a normal casual player that plays everyday and wnats to enjoy things. I dont want to exploit, although I am curious as to what these players did to exploit and why. People like that ruin the game.
'rushing' to max level through dev content is a different story than rushing UGC content that is exploiting a flawed system.