My Man-at-arms seems to do more damage than my panther.
At the very least, he's eager to jump in and actually fight things, which is more than I can say for the panther. This thing really needs to be looked at.
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nischanaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
please please look at it....this thing is soooo usefull...and i what to play with it cause its looks good
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csileMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 4Arc User
edited April 2013
Panther is so bad, i chanced to the free companion.. and love him...
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kotliMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 577
edited April 2013
The problem is one the AI really bad and two the time between attacks is longer than the time posted.
I came here to see if perhaps I was using the panther completely wrong. Just doesn't seem to be a good companion at all. I tried sticking with the guy, but the Man at Arms has proven to be much more useful on the battlefield.
In Beta weekend, I was using cold ray (for a split second, thus the spell not actually going off) and my companion (golem during BWs) would go and attack my target (before me). But they seem to have "fixed" this unfortunately. I tried to have my panther attack first like this, but it doesnt work. I have to attack first, and of course, all ennemies are dead before he attacks.
He's worthless, and I am thus using my Dire Wolf instead. Whimpyclaw McFail will not see the light of day unless they actually make him usefull.
I came here to see if perhaps I was using the panther completely wrong. Just doesn't seem to be a good companion at all. I tried sticking with the guy, but the Man at Arms has proven to be much more useful on the battlefield.
Case and point. A regular companion is doing more damage than a purple one!
Cryptic, any chance of an official response here?
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isakongmingMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited April 2013
So many people saying the same thing, so lets keep this up on page one until it gets an official response.
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seleen2Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
As folks have noted, the panther is worthless the way he is now. Way too slow and stupid (things will be beating on me and he sits there). I switched to the Dire Wolf and he is a bit better but still not that great.
Definitely needs work for the pets and a /pet attack command is seriously needed.
I think the panther accidently got shot by a tranq dart or something. He is so pathetic. To bad we cant sell him
Even when he do attack I find him doing god awful damage. I think I could slingshot a wet noodle and do more damage then the panther. I find the cat/cleric to work out a lot better...so maybe they will get nerfed.
keep in mind the panthers lvl, it's most likely not even hitting anything when it does atk due to being 10+ lvls under everything else... at 25 my panther is finally lvl 15 and still does nothing but soaks dmg when i let it tank for a bit... oddly it does have twice my hp tho...
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iamzelpexMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 29Arc User
keep in mind the panthers lvl, it's most likely not even hitting anything when it does atk due to being 10+ lvls under everything else... at 25 my panther is finally lvl 15 and still does nothing but soaks dmg when i let it tank for a bit... oddly it does have twice my hp tho...
Umm...no. We got our panthers right out of the tutorial, I was level 12 when he was level 8. By the time I hit level 16 and got a free cleric my panther was almost level 11. Either way, he was having attack issues from the moment I got him and our levels were close. Worse yet, I just saw that we still cant train our free companions past level 15, training books are still not available. No way in hell im shelling out the massive amounts of cash they are asking for for their cash shop companions.
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lexthegreatMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Agree....the cat is very disappointing as it is. It takes entirely too long to engage an enemy thus making it useless for almost every encounter.
I just did a test vs 10 groups. I can do it vs more, but I am sure the result will be the same. The Panther kills about three times SLOWER than the free striker (dog) we can all get as one of our companions! Sometimes the Panther will even SIT there while I get hit.
This is kind of ridiculous, seeing how the Panther is an "exclusive" $200 item.
Go ahead and try it out for yourself guys. The free striker companions kills MUCH faster than the Panther, and has no weird AI issues that just cause him to sit there.
Come on Cryptic, please give us an official "we are investigating" this response. Please?
For an epic unique companion the panther is pretty bad. Please make the panther a little stronger because as of now it is utterly useless and very weak.
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gyloirMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
The dire wolf doesn't seem to be much better? Mine at least, as a wizard I open combat and it'll sit around a bit, untilt he mobs geat in almost melee range then it might get a hit in before they are dead.
We really need some basic pet controls (IE attack, follow, stay, aggressive, passive, etc).
I gave the panther some levels and some time. It's attacks are slow (often too late as the mob is already dead unless I'm on my guard and turtle-ing for the fun of it) and sometimes it just sits there in the middle of a fight right next to me just getting hit by an enemy's AoE.
Didnt notice for the first couple levels as a CW most things never got in range. At level 18 now and it has been pretty glaring for a while now that the panthers first pounce attack is just slow to the point of useless. Picked up the dog and have beena little happier with him.
Have tried quite a few of the companions, the pather seems to be the worst, mostly based on that terrible first attack. After he actually decides to get in battle he does seem to attack, half the time its been over for a couple seconds by that point.
Any word from the Devs or Customer Support? This is pretty sad.
Not so far (that I know of). But Cryptic (usually) does a good job communicating with players. I think they are just having a bit of fun seeing as how the soft launch went so well.
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lexthegreatMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
Just giving this thread a well deserved nudge. Please, please make the Panther less useless. It's a really cool looking that I want to use in a groups, but can't due to every other companion I tried having better AI + damage output (which is sad for a striker pet).
When i saw the panther before i bought the pack i was not overly impressed and wanted the dire wolf. Later i found out you could get both hero and guardian so i could get the wolf. Neither is as good as my old honey badger. I do hope they will change the AI. Perhaps add a finishing move where the panther decapitates the target on the last pounce?
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At the very least, he's eager to jump in and actually fight things, which is more than I can say for the panther. This thing really needs to be looked at.
Except that it sits like a panda bear. wtf.
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I noticed that also, I believe the wolf has the same animations.
He's worthless, and I am thus using my Dire Wolf instead. Whimpyclaw McFail will not see the light of day unless they actually make him usefull.
Case and point. A regular companion is doing more damage than a purple one!
Cryptic, any chance of an official response here?
Definitely needs work for the pets and a /pet attack command is seriously needed.
Even when he do attack I find him doing god awful damage. I think I could slingshot a wet noodle and do more damage then the panther. I find the cat/cleric to work out a lot better...so maybe they will get nerfed.
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Umm...no. We got our panthers right out of the tutorial, I was level 12 when he was level 8. By the time I hit level 16 and got a free cleric my panther was almost level 11. Either way, he was having attack issues from the moment I got him and our levels were close. Worse yet, I just saw that we still cant train our free companions past level 15, training books are still not available. No way in hell im shelling out the massive amounts of cash they are asking for for their cash shop companions.
Actually ATM anything>Panther. Cryptic please can we get an official comment in this?
I just did a test vs 10 groups. I can do it vs more, but I am sure the result will be the same. The Panther kills about three times SLOWER than the free striker (dog) we can all get as one of our companions! Sometimes the Panther will even SIT there while I get hit.
This is kind of ridiculous, seeing how the Panther is an "exclusive" $200 item.
Go ahead and try it out for yourself guys. The free striker companions kills MUCH faster than the Panther, and has no weird AI issues that just cause him to sit there.
Come on Cryptic, please give us an official "we are investigating" this response. Please?
We really need some basic pet controls (IE attack, follow, stay, aggressive, passive, etc).
I gave the panther some levels and some time. It's attacks are slow (often too late as the mob is already dead unless I'm on my guard and turtle-ing for the fun of it) and sometimes it just sits there in the middle of a fight right next to me just getting hit by an enemy's AoE.
Have tried quite a few of the companions, the pather seems to be the worst, mostly based on that terrible first attack. After he actually decides to get in battle he does seem to attack, half the time its been over for a couple seconds by that point.
That right there is the main issue. We need either this or AI that actually works.
Any word from the Devs or Customer Support? This is pretty sad.
Not so far (that I know of). But Cryptic (usually) does a good job communicating with players. I think they are just having a bit of fun seeing as how the soft launch went so well.