I signed up, and later I tried to log in to see if I'd been registered, but I couldn't log in, and the password recovery wouldn't accept my email.
That means your application was rejected, either for a rules violation, or the application being too short or too sloppy. I did hear of an application that was deleted for some admitted poor behavior. If that was you, you can PM me here and we can see if you could apply again. Unless it was something truly horrible, in which case I don't want to know about it.
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First off, really have to shake my head at that choice of moniker, secondly, if I recall your application it went along the lines of "I need a guild to drag me to endgame".
Sorry, we're not a taxi service, and we're certainly not all about what we can do for you in game.
Nevermind the fact that its very clearly written in multiple places that WE DO NOT ACCEPT SINGLE SENTENCE APPLICATIONS, you might do better to apply to a guild citing what you offer, or bring to the table, not a bald demand for propulsion to endgame.
Good morning and TGIF!!!! looking forward to some game time this weekend if the new baby lets me LOL
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lordluapMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited June 2013
Hello!
I posted an application to join your guild on your website yesterday and have not heard back from ya'll yet. Please let me know if you would like any other info about me, my background, and gaming experience. I'm very impressed with your guild posts and website and would like to join you for Neverwinter adventuring.
I posted an application to join your guild on your website yesterday and have not heard back from ya'll yet. Please let me know if you would like any other info about me, my background, and gaming experience. I'm very impressed with your guild posts and website and would like to join you for Neverwinter adventuring.
Thank you!
Head on back please and check your PMs on our site.
Others were also processed. Looking forward to seeing you in game.
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kobuirisgamesMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
Check your messages on our site please if you registered. You're either rejected in which case you won't have any access, being reviewed in which case you should have a PM that explains the action required, or accepted with access to the forums.
Thanks for the interest all.
Maturity, Fair Play, Family Friendly. Sound good? Apply today at www.guildmedieval.com
Word of warning. Wall of text, but you might want to read this before applying. Ex-members experience of Guild Medieval.
I'd like to add, that while Guild Medieval mainly consists of mature gamers, certain aspects aren't always handled very maturely, or even fairly.
A week ago, I expressed concern that I wasn't sure if I would make Knight ( the first permanent rank, Squire being sort of a test perioid. ) Before I expressed said concern on the guild forums, I had:
-Helped vaurious members of the guild level
-Deposited the first epic item ever into the guild bank, while they were still highly valuable
-Gave beforementioned epic items to guildmembers
-Organized dungeon runs, and adviced other players with strategies
-Never critized a single guild member, instead gave them positive feedback on their performance
-Contributed to the forums and actively used them as required
-Made many friends in the guild
All and all, I had contributed quite and then some to the guild. I then got bored of NW, as I had cleared every dungeon, capped on gear and so on. I expressed my concern if me becoming a Knight ( permanent member ) was in danger because I would be playing Path of Exile for now ( the guild also plays Path of Exile, and Dungeons & Dragons Online ).
I was told by the guild leader, several officers and other members that I would be just fine. I could contribute by writing guides, because I was an advanced player. I was told that aslong as I use the forums and act well, I'd be fine.
An officer then private messaged me, and asked how he could help me out. He said he could see I wasn't happy with Guild Medieval, I told him this is absolutely not the case, and that no one can be blamed for me "fast to the finish line" ( having sort of done everything you can in Neverwinter. ) He then said he could even create a character to Path of Exile to play with me: I said it sounds great. I also wrote that I've been in 20-30 guilds before ( over the duration of 20 years of gaming, this I failed to write. ) I also said that out of 2 different options, leaving myself before being booted was lesser of a deal. I worded this poorly however; something along the lines of "I'd rather leave than be booted, no biggie." -however I ment what I wrote before, no biggie of the 2 possibly necessary evils.
A few days later I login. I am banned.
No email, no private message ( atleast one I can read, since I'm banned ) no nothing. I contact an officer, asking him the following questions and receive the following replies, and my thoughts:
1. Why was I banned, I was told everything is allright by officers and the guild leader himself?
There was concern that Guild Medieval wouldn't be good enough for you, and you had a tone that everyone read as you not caring if you're booted, or if you just leave.
I understand one sentence was poorly written. However, is this enough to ban someone? Also, why did no one come to me for clarification?
2. When I expressed concern Path of Exile wouldn't grant me votes to be Knighted because it's more of a solo game, I was told it'll be fine aslong as I use the forums and I got nothing to worry about?
-Path of Exile is a solo game and it might not grant votes, this was one concern.
So my point was valid after all, yet on the forums I'm told by officers and the guild leader that it's no problem? Why wasnt I told it is a problem then? Everything regarding this very matter was supposed to be allright, but it wasn't, and I was banned without being informed, with no one communicating with me.
3. Would I go through the trouble of expressing concern of my membership if I didn't care and did not want to contribute? Why would I go through all this trouble to set things right if I really didn't care about being kicked?
-In the private message pasted by the officer who talked to you, you mentioned you had been in 30 guilds before, this was also one concern.
So in essence, the Officer who told me everything was good, who wanted to make a new Path of Exile character to play with me, had pasted the PRIVATE MESSAGE to the Officer forums, and more or less contributed to this whole farce? I mean really? I'd also like to note I have been playing multiplayer games for almost 20 years. I also mentioned in said private message I've never been kicked from a guild, and hence I'd rather leave if it seemed I wouldn't make permanent member despite all my attempts to do so and contribute.
4. Doesnt me not being kicked from 30 guilds ever say more good things about me than bad?
-It was read in a different manner by many officers and leaders.
Still admitting the sentence was poorly formatted, I DID HOWEVER MENTION the fact I've never been booted, from 30 guilds. That was ignored completely?
5. There are players who only join to Path of Exile. How can they be a part of the guild playing only Path of Exile if I can't?
( No response, aside from people being active on the forums and occasionally playing other games, exactly what I did. )
At this point another officer enters the chatroom, and tells me that he has been asked to remove me from the chat server. I could say goodbye to the other officer ( who is a nice fellow. ) This other officer kicks me off the server before I say goodbye to him, and says I'm allowed to reapply in one month.
tl;dr: Expressed concern if I'd make permanent member or not. Was told by vaurious officers and leaders that everything is good, encouraged to have fun! Approached by an officer privately, asking if he could help, offering to play with me to get votes to make permanent member, who then pasted the whole private message to an officer forum. A sentence is misinterpreted wrong, and a gun is jumped; I'm banned without anyone asking me for clarification, without being informed in any way. A backstabbing of someone you aren't quite sure you need to stab to beginwith, if you will.
Despite what anyone after this post will claim, what I have written is true, and describes my point of view. The guild is nice, the people were nice, I sincerely wanted to contribute and enjoyed being a part of GM, altough it was left pretty short. However, the whole thing was handled in a manner that in no way presents maturity that the guild claims to weigh on. The whole thing was handled more poorly than I've ever seen, and all behind my back, be it on purpose or not.
Expressing your concern can apparently get you banned without warning in this guild. I won't be reapplying, and I wish the good folks of GM a nice journey forth. But since you share private discussions and like to review members, I might aswell do the same by reviewing the guild and sharing to others what -might- happen in what I believe is a worst case scenario. This can only be fair, for the least.
I'm sure this will be handled maturely in their guild forums, like when another member was sarcastically bashed when he announced ( with an utmost wellmannered post ) that he is leaving the guild.
Courtesy - Experienced none.
Integrity - Definetly not 100%
Fair play - ...
This post will probably be followed by an official/leader responding in an attempt to save integrity and/or credibility of the guild.( Forum moderator: note that this post does not break any forum code of conduct. )
The only thing medieval isn't in the guilds name; you can get executed without trial.
At this point, Runicfi, after a half dozen officers have had private conversations with you regarding your behaviour, and after receiving reports from over a dozen members on your negative attitude and immature comportment, going to have to fully support your removal from the Guild.
Airing dirty laundry in public, rather than attempting reasonable communications, particularly in light of the varied attempts to "talk you down", is less than mature, and underscores your lack of suitability for the guild.
Feel free to re-app in six months.
As you can see, folks, we're quite serious about our system, and just giving gear away like its candy isn't enough to buy your way into the ranks.
Its not about how "pro" you are, its not about how frequently you're online, its not about how much gear you have, or give away; its about how you treat your guildies, and how you carry yourself in a conversation. How you play is more important than whether you play, or what you play, and will keep you playing with us for years, perhaps even the decade plus I've personally had the privilege of being a member of this Guild.
At this point, Runicfi, after a half dozen officers have had private conversations with you regarding your behaviour, and after receiving reports from over a dozen members on your negative attitude and immature comportment, going to have to fully support your removal from the Guild.
Airing dirty laundry in public, rather than attempting reasonable communications, particularly in light of the varied attempts to "talk you down", is less than mature, and underscores your lack of suitability for the guild.
Feel free to re-app in six months.
As you can see, folks, we're quite serious about our system, and just giving gear away like its candy isn't enough to buy your way into the ranks.
Its not about how "pro" you are, its not about how frequently you're online, its not about how much gear you have, or give away; its about how you treat your guildies, and how you carry yourself in a conversation. How you play is more important than whether you play, or what you play, and will keep you playing with us for years, perhaps even the decade plus I've personally had the privilege of being a member of this Guild.
Seeing how I never even played with half a dozen members yet, more like dungeon runs with around 5 people, and casually chatting with a few others, of which a public thread was made and the feedback was positive, this is obviously a lie. Neither did I privately chat with more than a few officers. Why exaggarate? Seems going on the defensive to me.
I find it a bit funny that you're talking about attempting communication. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Expressing concern and talking about issues that someone would like to discuss is perfectly mature, factually, actually.
Whereas conspiring behind a persons back and just kicking someone without even telling them I consider highly immature and "unprofessional" -if that term can be used.
Quite serious about your system indeed, except for the courtesy and fair play part I'd say.
Not sure if you're mislabeling here, but I atleast was fully aware that being in the guild isn't about ingame performance. The main issue is how you handled things; you won't ofcourse ever admit to mistakes or doing this whole thing really poorly as a leader for credibilitys sake. Another fact is that I never treated any guildmate poorly. Most likely your old traditions and longetivity of the playerbase is part of the problem. Something that resembles your generic fantasy kingdom, with the conspiring nobles included really isn't my cup of tea. I would place that kind of behavior to a boarding school rather than a mature guild. I won't be reapplying, but thanks, and have a good one.
I have nothing but good things to say so far with the guild. Sorry you had a bad experience.
Thanks, and have fun. I was in the belief I was having a good experience too, despite being concerned ( which still just shows that I actually cared. )
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kobuirisgamesMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
Well, since you posted all that here, I might as well make my reply to you public.
"Hello, I agree you did not break any rules. You were removed based on member votes. It was felt you were not a good fit for the community. Words used were "abrasive" and "elitist", and members said you spent time in guild chat complaining. No one was reporting positive experiences in dealing with you. In short, it was an attitude problem. You will be allowed to reapply in six months time, if you like, but it must be proven by you that you will be making every effort to be a positive force within the guild, and not just a good player.
Regards,
Kobu"
It seem to me that a signature saying your cat our-gears me is symptomatic of the base problem. We're a friendly and kind bunch who bend over backwards to help our less skilled members, and that signature screams "wrong attitude" to me. Our gear scores are only important in that it tells us what dungeons we can do and maybe who could use an upgrade rather than putting it on the auction house. I feel that a guild that is more concerned with what you can deliver to them (and there are plenty out there, just not us) would be more suited for you.
We rarely vote out a member, but it shows our system works. Members will not be made to play with someone who does follow the letter of the law but is upsetting people regardless.
Maturity, Fair Play, Family Friendly. Sound good? Apply today at www.guildmedieval.com
Well, since you posted all that here, I might as well make my reply to you public.
"Hello, I agree you did not break any rules. You were removed based on member votes. It was felt you were not a good fit for the community. Words used were "abrasive" and "elitist", and members said you spent time in guild chat complaining. No one was reporting positive experiences in dealing with you. In short, it was an attitude problem. You will be allowed to reapply in six months time, if you like, but it must be proven by you that you will be making every effort to be a positive force within the guild, and not just a good player.
Regards,
Kobu"
It seem to me that a signature saying your cat our-gears me is symptomatic of the base problem. We're a friendly and kind bunch who bend over backwards to help our less skilled members, and that signature screams "wrong attitude" to me. Our gear scores are only important in that it tells us what dungeons we can do and maybe who could use an upgrade rather than putting it on the auction house. I feel that a guild that is more concerned with what you can deliver to them (and there are plenty out there, just not us) would be more suited for you.
We rarely vote out a member, but it shows our system works. Members will not be made to play with someone who does follow the letter of the law but is upsetting people regardless.
Thanks for posting your reply, since I never got to read it. Might keep in mind for the future that if someone is suspended they cannot access their private messages in the forums ( if this is were you put it. )
The only thing I complained about in guildchat ever was when I occasionally critized Neverwinter as a game, because it does have flaws. That can't be banworthy, or if it is, it's pretty ridicilous. I also had many nice discussions with a lot of people, guess that was just ignored? I never critized a guildmember or ever gave negative feedback. I don't understand you saying no one reported positive experiences from playing with me;
See your guild forums which contained threads about dungeon runs and the thread created by Blyssfulchaos ( about Pirate King or Mad Dragon, don't remember which it was, but we cleared both next to other dungeons with guildies and I only gave, and received positive feedback. )
And that's the only time I got a guild group together. So in total: Played with 5 people, got positive feedback. Got negative feedback from people who never even played with me. Changed to PoE, can't have gotten any negative feedback since I hadn't grouped there yet doe to leveling up.
Next to that I also helped other members many times, be it leveling or with difficult quests. How is that not doing positive things? If someone doesn't report the positive things, they never happened, and one can be culled by just saying something negative? Sounds like a horrible system.
You have elitists in your guild besides me too ( altough for some this doesn't translate to their ingame performance, I'm afraid, just to the forums. )
There are so many points that just don't hold true that it's just starting to sound like excuses, and seems only the negative was ever considered, the positive just ignored ( on purpose? ) No one can claim I never got positive feedback, because I did. Or that I didn't have a positive attitude, because helping your guildmates can't be considered negative by anyone. I complained about the game in guild chat.
See your guild forums Neverwinter General portion, I recall a thread called "Do Nightmare Lockboxes offend you?" -inside you find a lot of people critizing a lot of things in the game. Have those people been reported from complaining, negative attitude, and removed? Must've been, for the sake of integrity.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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kobuirisgamesMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
We allow any opinions about games to be expressed. That you think that was the problem points to a lack of self-awareness. I can't be clearer than what I already replied with. What you perceived as positive feedback did not translate into positive comments and votes in your poll. Quite the opposite. Thus, your removal. The more I read from you, the more I believe the right choice was made.
Maturity, Fair Play, Family Friendly. Sound good? Apply today at www.guildmedieval.com
The more I read from you, the more I believe the right choice was made.
That's a nice way to try and turn this around, by labeling me because I'm not happy how things were handled. You can't seriously expect I'd give you positive feedback after such an abyssmal failure regarding communication, excuses, one misinterpreted sentence and some higher up who probably had something stuck in this tooth.
So folks, the system of this guild does not factually work, despite the leaders claiming so ( ofcourse they do this, otherwise they would show weakness and their credibility as leaders would suffer. ) You shouldn't claim courtesy and fair play as your values if this is how you treat people.
You will never admit you handled the whole thing poorly, you will never admit you didn't communicate at all, but it happened regardless.
I think you have made your point, the more you keep posting about it the worse it looks for you.
To all that are thinking of playing with us the guild has been great, I am not in the loop on what happen above but I have been here for a week and the game is 10x more fun now.
Feel free to contact me in game if you have doubts
That's the problem with dignifying petulant manchildren.
Just say no.
Evening folks.
If one guy has a problem with you, its that guy. If two guys have a problem with you, maybe its still them. If everyone says you're the problem, congrats, you're the problem.
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That means your application was rejected, either for a rules violation, or the application being too short or too sloppy. I did hear of an application that was deleted for some admitted poor behavior. If that was you, you can PM me here and we can see if you could apply again. Unless it was something truly horrible, in which case I don't want to know about it.
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First off, really have to shake my head at that choice of moniker, secondly, if I recall your application it went along the lines of "I need a guild to drag me to endgame".
Sorry, we're not a taxi service, and we're certainly not all about what we can do for you in game.
Nevermind the fact that its very clearly written in multiple places that WE DO NOT ACCEPT SINGLE SENTENCE APPLICATIONS, you might do better to apply to a guild citing what you offer, or bring to the table, not a bald demand for propulsion to endgame.
Best of luck, and thanks for your interest.
www.guildmedieval.com
Courtesy, Integrity, Fair Play.
I posted an application to join your guild on your website yesterday and have not heard back from ya'll yet. Please let me know if you would like any other info about me, my background, and gaming experience. I'm very impressed with your guild posts and website and would like to join you for Neverwinter adventuring.
Thank you!
Head on back please and check your PMs on our site.
Others were also processed. Looking forward to seeing you in game.
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Thanks for the interest all.
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I'd like to add, that while Guild Medieval mainly consists of mature gamers, certain aspects aren't always handled very maturely, or even fairly.
A week ago, I expressed concern that I wasn't sure if I would make Knight ( the first permanent rank, Squire being sort of a test perioid. ) Before I expressed said concern on the guild forums, I had:
-Helped vaurious members of the guild level
-Deposited the first epic item ever into the guild bank, while they were still highly valuable
-Gave beforementioned epic items to guildmembers
-Organized dungeon runs, and adviced other players with strategies
-Never critized a single guild member, instead gave them positive feedback on their performance
-Contributed to the forums and actively used them as required
-Made many friends in the guild
All and all, I had contributed quite and then some to the guild. I then got bored of NW, as I had cleared every dungeon, capped on gear and so on. I expressed my concern if me becoming a Knight ( permanent member ) was in danger because I would be playing Path of Exile for now ( the guild also plays Path of Exile, and Dungeons & Dragons Online ).
I was told by the guild leader, several officers and other members that I would be just fine. I could contribute by writing guides, because I was an advanced player. I was told that aslong as I use the forums and act well, I'd be fine.
An officer then private messaged me, and asked how he could help me out. He said he could see I wasn't happy with Guild Medieval, I told him this is absolutely not the case, and that no one can be blamed for me "fast to the finish line" ( having sort of done everything you can in Neverwinter. ) He then said he could even create a character to Path of Exile to play with me: I said it sounds great. I also wrote that I've been in 20-30 guilds before ( over the duration of 20 years of gaming, this I failed to write. ) I also said that out of 2 different options, leaving myself before being booted was lesser of a deal. I worded this poorly however; something along the lines of "I'd rather leave than be booted, no biggie." -however I ment what I wrote before, no biggie of the 2 possibly necessary evils.
A few days later I login. I am banned.
No email, no private message ( atleast one I can read, since I'm banned ) no nothing. I contact an officer, asking him the following questions and receive the following replies, and my thoughts:
1. Why was I banned, I was told everything is allright by officers and the guild leader himself?
There was concern that Guild Medieval wouldn't be good enough for you, and you had a tone that everyone read as you not caring if you're booted, or if you just leave.
I understand one sentence was poorly written. However, is this enough to ban someone? Also, why did no one come to me for clarification?
2. When I expressed concern Path of Exile wouldn't grant me votes to be Knighted because it's more of a solo game, I was told it'll be fine aslong as I use the forums and I got nothing to worry about?
-Path of Exile is a solo game and it might not grant votes, this was one concern.
So my point was valid after all, yet on the forums I'm told by officers and the guild leader that it's no problem? Why wasnt I told it is a problem then? Everything regarding this very matter was supposed to be allright, but it wasn't, and I was banned without being informed, with no one communicating with me.
3. Would I go through the trouble of expressing concern of my membership if I didn't care and did not want to contribute? Why would I go through all this trouble to set things right if I really didn't care about being kicked?
-In the private message pasted by the officer who talked to you, you mentioned you had been in 30 guilds before, this was also one concern.
So in essence, the Officer who told me everything was good, who wanted to make a new Path of Exile character to play with me, had pasted the PRIVATE MESSAGE to the Officer forums, and more or less contributed to this whole farce? I mean really? I'd also like to note I have been playing multiplayer games for almost 20 years. I also mentioned in said private message I've never been kicked from a guild, and hence I'd rather leave if it seemed I wouldn't make permanent member despite all my attempts to do so and contribute.
4. Doesnt me not being kicked from 30 guilds ever say more good things about me than bad?
-It was read in a different manner by many officers and leaders.
Still admitting the sentence was poorly formatted, I DID HOWEVER MENTION the fact I've never been booted, from 30 guilds. That was ignored completely?
5. There are players who only join to Path of Exile. How can they be a part of the guild playing only Path of Exile if I can't?
( No response, aside from people being active on the forums and occasionally playing other games, exactly what I did. )
At this point another officer enters the chatroom, and tells me that he has been asked to remove me from the chat server. I could say goodbye to the other officer ( who is a nice fellow. ) This other officer kicks me off the server before I say goodbye to him, and says I'm allowed to reapply in one month.
tl;dr: Expressed concern if I'd make permanent member or not. Was told by vaurious officers and leaders that everything is good, encouraged to have fun! Approached by an officer privately, asking if he could help, offering to play with me to get votes to make permanent member, who then pasted the whole private message to an officer forum. A sentence is misinterpreted wrong, and a gun is jumped; I'm banned without anyone asking me for clarification, without being informed in any way. A backstabbing of someone you aren't quite sure you need to stab to beginwith, if you will.
Despite what anyone after this post will claim, what I have written is true, and describes my point of view. The guild is nice, the people were nice, I sincerely wanted to contribute and enjoyed being a part of GM, altough it was left pretty short. However, the whole thing was handled in a manner that in no way presents maturity that the guild claims to weigh on. The whole thing was handled more poorly than I've ever seen, and all behind my back, be it on purpose or not.
Expressing your concern can apparently get you banned without warning in this guild. I won't be reapplying, and I wish the good folks of GM a nice journey forth. But since you share private discussions and like to review members, I might aswell do the same by reviewing the guild and sharing to others what -might- happen in what I believe is a worst case scenario. This can only be fair, for the least.
I'm sure this will be handled maturely in their guild forums, like when another member was sarcastically bashed when he announced ( with an utmost wellmannered post ) that he is leaving the guild.
Courtesy - Experienced none.
Integrity - Definetly not 100%
Fair play - ...
This post will probably be followed by an official/leader responding in an attempt to save integrity and/or credibility of the guild.( Forum moderator: note that this post does not break any forum code of conduct. )
The only thing medieval isn't in the guilds name; you can get executed without trial.
I have nothing but good things to say so far with the guild. Sorry you had a bad experience.
At this point, Runicfi, after a half dozen officers have had private conversations with you regarding your behaviour, and after receiving reports from over a dozen members on your negative attitude and immature comportment, going to have to fully support your removal from the Guild.
Airing dirty laundry in public, rather than attempting reasonable communications, particularly in light of the varied attempts to "talk you down", is less than mature, and underscores your lack of suitability for the guild.
Feel free to re-app in six months.
As you can see, folks, we're quite serious about our system, and just giving gear away like its candy isn't enough to buy your way into the ranks.
Its not about how "pro" you are, its not about how frequently you're online, its not about how much gear you have, or give away; its about how you treat your guildies, and how you carry yourself in a conversation. How you play is more important than whether you play, or what you play, and will keep you playing with us for years, perhaps even the decade plus I've personally had the privilege of being a member of this Guild.
www.guildmedieval.com
Courtesy, Integrity, Fair Play.
Seeing how I never even played with half a dozen members yet, more like dungeon runs with around 5 people, and casually chatting with a few others, of which a public thread was made and the feedback was positive, this is obviously a lie. Neither did I privately chat with more than a few officers. Why exaggarate? Seems going on the defensive to me.
I find it a bit funny that you're talking about attempting communication. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Expressing concern and talking about issues that someone would like to discuss is perfectly mature, factually, actually.
Whereas conspiring behind a persons back and just kicking someone without even telling them I consider highly immature and "unprofessional" -if that term can be used.
Quite serious about your system indeed, except for the courtesy and fair play part I'd say.
Not sure if you're mislabeling here, but I atleast was fully aware that being in the guild isn't about ingame performance. The main issue is how you handled things; you won't ofcourse ever admit to mistakes or doing this whole thing really poorly as a leader for credibilitys sake. Another fact is that I never treated any guildmate poorly. Most likely your old traditions and longetivity of the playerbase is part of the problem. Something that resembles your generic fantasy kingdom, with the conspiring nobles included really isn't my cup of tea. I would place that kind of behavior to a boarding school rather than a mature guild. I won't be reapplying, but thanks, and have a good one.
Thanks, and have fun. I was in the belief I was having a good experience too, despite being concerned ( which still just shows that I actually cared. )
"Hello, I agree you did not break any rules. You were removed based on member votes. It was felt you were not a good fit for the community. Words used were "abrasive" and "elitist", and members said you spent time in guild chat complaining. No one was reporting positive experiences in dealing with you. In short, it was an attitude problem. You will be allowed to reapply in six months time, if you like, but it must be proven by you that you will be making every effort to be a positive force within the guild, and not just a good player.
Regards,
Kobu"
It seem to me that a signature saying your cat our-gears me is symptomatic of the base problem. We're a friendly and kind bunch who bend over backwards to help our less skilled members, and that signature screams "wrong attitude" to me. Our gear scores are only important in that it tells us what dungeons we can do and maybe who could use an upgrade rather than putting it on the auction house. I feel that a guild that is more concerned with what you can deliver to them (and there are plenty out there, just not us) would be more suited for you.
We rarely vote out a member, but it shows our system works. Members will not be made to play with someone who does follow the letter of the law but is upsetting people regardless.
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Courtesy, Integrity, Fair Play.
Thanks for posting your reply, since I never got to read it. Might keep in mind for the future that if someone is suspended they cannot access their private messages in the forums ( if this is were you put it. )
The only thing I complained about in guildchat ever was when I occasionally critized Neverwinter as a game, because it does have flaws. That can't be banworthy, or if it is, it's pretty ridicilous. I also had many nice discussions with a lot of people, guess that was just ignored? I never critized a guildmember or ever gave negative feedback. I don't understand you saying no one reported positive experiences from playing with me;
See your guild forums which contained threads about dungeon runs and the thread created by Blyssfulchaos ( about Pirate King or Mad Dragon, don't remember which it was, but we cleared both next to other dungeons with guildies and I only gave, and received positive feedback. )
And that's the only time I got a guild group together. So in total: Played with 5 people, got positive feedback. Got negative feedback from people who never even played with me. Changed to PoE, can't have gotten any negative feedback since I hadn't grouped there yet doe to leveling up.
Next to that I also helped other members many times, be it leveling or with difficult quests. How is that not doing positive things? If someone doesn't report the positive things, they never happened, and one can be culled by just saying something negative? Sounds like a horrible system.
You have elitists in your guild besides me too ( altough for some this doesn't translate to their ingame performance, I'm afraid, just to the forums. )
There are so many points that just don't hold true that it's just starting to sound like excuses, and seems only the negative was ever considered, the positive just ignored ( on purpose? ) No one can claim I never got positive feedback, because I did. Or that I didn't have a positive attitude, because helping your guildmates can't be considered negative by anyone. I complained about the game in guild chat.
See your guild forums Neverwinter General portion, I recall a thread called "Do Nightmare Lockboxes offend you?" -inside you find a lot of people critizing a lot of things in the game. Have those people been reported from complaining, negative attitude, and removed? Must've been, for the sake of integrity.
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The system works.
www.guildmedieval.com
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That's a nice way to try and turn this around, by labeling me because I'm not happy how things were handled. You can't seriously expect I'd give you positive feedback after such an abyssmal failure regarding communication, excuses, one misinterpreted sentence and some higher up who probably had something stuck in this tooth.
So folks, the system of this guild does not factually work, despite the leaders claiming so ( ofcourse they do this, otherwise they would show weakness and their credibility as leaders would suffer. ) You shouldn't claim courtesy and fair play as your values if this is how you treat people.
You will never admit you handled the whole thing poorly, you will never admit you didn't communicate at all, but it happened regardless.
To all that are thinking of playing with us the guild has been great, I am not in the loop on what happen above but I have been here for a week and the game is 10x more fun now.
Feel free to contact me in game if you have doubts
Steeler TR
Icepick CW
Just say no.
Evening folks.
If one guy has a problem with you, its that guy. If two guys have a problem with you, maybe its still them. If everyone says you're the problem, congrats, you're the problem.
Handle it. Its the mature thing to do.
www.guildmedieval.com
Courtesy, Integrity, Fair Play.
had fun this morning doing the portals, seems some bigger monsters are spawning now! hehe
I still only have like 15 bones but I willl get to 40...somehow.
See you in game!
Steeler TR
Icepick CW
www.guildmedieval.com
Courtesy, Integrity, Fair Play.