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  • handofhensonhandofhenson Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    listed on
    04Jun21 11:02:22 GMT 5000 zen
    bought on
    20Apr22 15:33:32 GMT 610 zen
    20Apr22 16:06:07 GMT 1100 zen
    20Apr22 16:15:12 GMT 1000 zen
    20Apr22 16:27:21 GMT 1100 zen
    20Apr22 16:56:29 GMT 1190 zen
  • hotfrostwormhotfrostworm Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    @handofhenson thanks for the data. Sorry, I blew my one and only 420 joke on the PS4 forums.

    Changed the +0.8 to +0.83. Maybe I will have fewer corrections and adjustments next month.
  • hottsuace#2038 hottsuace Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    5000 zen ordered 06/05/21
    recieved 04/22/22 between 3-4:00 AM EST
  • ph33rm3ph33rm3 Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    Ordered: June 5, 2021
    Received: April 23, 2022
    Duration: 322 days
  • mentinmindmakermentinmindmaker Member Posts: 1,386 Arc User
    Posted June 6th 2021.
    Received April 24th 2022.
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 2,994 Arc User
    Well, nothing new to report for NWO, but it now takes around 2 weeks to get ZEN in STO...
    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
  • silvergryphsilvergryph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 740 Arc User
    3800 ZEN
    Posted June 8th, 2021
    Filled April 26, 2022
  • kharkov58kharkov58 Member Posts: 648 Arc User
    5000 zen
    Posted June 11 2021
    Filled May 2 2022
  • lantern22lantern22 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,111 Arc User
    Still nearly a year between placing an order and it getting filled. Means I only have to log in every 11-12 months
  • theelusiveone#4954 theelusiveone Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    4996 Zen
    Posted June 12 2021
    Filled May 4 2022
    Kevfire
    Guild Leader
    Neverwinter SOLO Alliance
  • stof#3099 stof Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    1500 zen
    Posted on June 14 2021
    Filled May 8 2022
  • drartwhodentdrartwhodent Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 263 Arc User
    Posted on 6/15/21, got overnight last night (5/10-11)
    DON'T
    PANIC!
  • madmartigan#1315 madmartigan Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    posted 6-26-21... 11 months today... not yet. maybe tomorrow :/
  • cracklepants#2252 cracklepants Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    6/24/21 and nothing yet.
  • gildriadorgildriador Member Posts: 222 Arc User
    I got my 5000 zen order from 21 june 2021.
    Yesterday, 29 may 2022.
    “He raised his staff. There was a roll of thunder. The sunlight was blotted out from the eastern windows; the whole hall became suddenly dark as night. The fire faded to sullen embers. Only Gandalf could be seen, standing white and tall before the blackened hearth.”
    ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Two Towers
  • mentinmindmakermentinmindmaker Member Posts: 1,386 Arc User

    I got my 5000 zen order from 21 june 2021.
    Yesterday, 29 may 2022.

    So waittime is still rising dramatically. Sigh.

    We need to arrange a huge party when it crosses 1 year :)
  • madmartigan#1315 madmartigan Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    this was a heavy couple of weeks last year. still reeling from the payout on those bonding stones i reckon. wow so my order on the 26th has a good week or two to go lol... ouch. gotta assume there are lot more like me waiting to post for 5k more asap :/
  • madmartigan#1315 madmartigan Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    its funny... when i posted that almost a year ago the backlog was much higher than it is now. didnt i see it as high ss like 72m? or 67 maybe idk.... it was a solid 10% h8gher than now. buyers just arent there
  • mentinmindmakermentinmindmaker Member Posts: 1,386 Arc User
    edited May 31
    Queue length is down to 60.8M now, it seems to be falling slowly. That is some positive new at least.

    However, I suspect much of the reason for that is that a lot of the owners of the posts in the queue have left the game, so they do not renew their postings when it comes through. Queue length probably is falling for the wrong reason.

    To be brutally honest(and we might end up there): For me it is not a huge crisis until queue wait time hits two years. I need two rounds of 5000 Zen a year to keep my VIP alive. Zen beyond that is just making things cheaper or earning AD.
  • tchefi#6735 tchefi Member Posts: 362 Arc User

    I got my 5000 zen order from 21 june 2021.
    Yesterday, 29 may 2022.

    So waittime is still rising dramatically. Sigh.

    We need to arrange a huge party when it crosses 1 year :)
    There is (and there has always been) a Jubilee effect on the Zax. Even when the Zax was still breathing between backlog and undercap, around may/mid-may, roughly 1 month before the event, Zen's flow into the Zax really significantly slow down. And we are pretty close to the Jubilee.

    Is the "Jubilee near" effect the most impactful thing on the waiting time tendancy shifting ? Quite unlikely for 2022 Jubilee. The shift in behaviour happened roughly at the end of february 2022, which seems to soon for that (but would be congruent with an aftermath of mod22 big changes on enchantements).
    But the shift happened around purchase order made in may 2021, so is there also an after effect of Jubilee 2021 ?

    its funny... when i posted that almost a year ago the backlog was much higher than it is now. didnt i see it as high ss like 72m? or 67 maybe idk.... it was a solid 10% h8gher than now. buyers just arent there

    Highest I have recorded was 70.5M backlog on June 15th 2021 (but I only took data of that once every 15 days since july 2020 ^^).
    We are now dealing with purchase orders made after the backlog's highest point.


    However, I suspect much of the reason for that is that a lot of the owners of the posts in the queue have left the game, so they do not renew their postings when it comes through. Queue length probably is falling for the wrong reason.

    Completely agree with that.




    Maybe it's time for a new graph :pensive:
  • madmartigan#1315 madmartigan Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    making a new spreadsheet would be fun... ive been keeping some notes for a while anyhow. tracking the backlog is important too. tracking the backlog alongside important events.... like the bonding stone buyback. does anyone have any data on that? i havent looked again but i feel like the old sheet didnt cover it :/

    i totally agree, the backlog is going down for the wrong reasons. people are leaving the game. Also only some are gonna use zax in the first place for the reasons. unless theyre in a hurry for their ad. ... i digress

    itd be fun to see what the backlog is doing now in response to the things that were happening at the time of the current payout, back when they were posted.
  • cracklepants#2252 cracklepants Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    ordered 6/24/2021
    filled 6/5/2022
    2K
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 2,994 Arc User
    edited June 9
    Well, the one from 6/25/2021 was filled 6/7/2022.

    6/7/2022 Purchased 1810 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 1000 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 3 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 500 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 100 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 100 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 100 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 100 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 100 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 1100 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 75 for 750 each
    6/7/2022 Purchased 12 for 750 each

    347 days.

    Anyway, next listings 8/11/2021, 8/31/2021, 9/24/2021 and 11/5/2021.
    Post edited by regenerde on
    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
  • tchefi#6735 tchefi Member Posts: 362 Arc User

    making a new spreadsheet would be fun... ive been keeping some notes for a while anyhow. tracking the backlog is important too. tracking the backlog alongside important events.... like the bonding stone buyback. does anyone have any data on that? i havent looked again but i feel like the old sheet didnt cover it :/

    i totally agree, the backlog is going down for the wrong reasons. people are leaving the game. Also only some are gonna use zax in the first place for the reasons. unless theyre in a hurry for their ad. ... i digress

    itd be fun to see what the backlog is doing now in response to the things that were happening at the time of the current payout, back when they were posted.

    Dates are in dd/mm/yy format on the graph ('cauz i'm french)
    Bonding stones is very visible on both lines (after 22/01/21).
    Zax

  • justtester#3228 justtester Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited June 8
    5k zen 6/25/2021 -> 6/8/2022

    Almost one year huh.
    This forum is an echo chamber
  • madmartigan#1315 madmartigan Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    nice tchefi.
    yup nearly a year now.
    my 6-26-21 paid sometime this morning on 6-9-22

    there are clearly a lot of people still using zax to get quick ad. i watched it drop over 150k yesterday...

    if we make it over this hump the waits could drop again.... im being optimistic i know
  • hotfrostwormhotfrostworm Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    Spreadsheet updated. Looks like July will be a whole year wait time.

    My best wishes for you.
  • stark760stark760 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 581 Arc User

    nice tchefi.
    yup nearly a year now.
    my 6-26-21 paid sometime this morning on 6-9-22

    there are clearly a lot of people still using zax to get quick ad. i watched it drop over 150k yesterday...

    if we make it over this hump the waits could drop again.... im being optimistic i know

    Max line was in July last year before eclipse lion was on bazaar and bard launched and hit just over 72 mil for 1-2 days, but was at 71 mil for at least a week as i remember. It's now at 60.1 mil, and looks on avg 6 mil per month is being exchanged, or has been this last year. Once it gets over the hump, it should drop back to 10 months, which is still not that great, but at least it didnt keep going past 72 mil.
  • soronngsoronng Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 8 Arc User
    Finally I get my Zen.

    15K Zen

    dd/mm/yyyy

    Posted 01.07.2021
    Received 13.06.2022
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