Having Critical Severity as Forte stat is really useless for DPS classes in my opinion. Since there are several sources to reach the 90% cap. Would be better and fair in terms of balance to replace it with CA, Accuracy or Crit Chance.
Take for example the Cleric Arbiter. I managed to reach 90% out of combat with 10k Critical Severity under rating, having only Dark enchantments giving Forte and boon. (No companions giving crit sev). In other toons that has not that stat in forte, i also reach 90% pretty easily. Then we have Vorpal Enchantment, that becomes useless since it cannot go over 90%, and we have not other alternatives since we do few hits. Please reconsider, at least for this paragon, to replace Critical Severity with something else usefull.
I agree it's pretty easy to cap crit severity even without it being a forte stat. There's the wildstorm elixir for 10%, the offhand modification for 10%, potent precision for 7.5%, the boon for 1%, a collar for up to 5%. And also a lot of companions with bonuses to crit severity and the guild boon and luck based stuff like the forger's box.
It is way harder to get the bonus percentages in the not rating category for most other stats. For the most part it's just Boons, companion powers, ability scores. So I would also prefer if crit severity in the forte stat was swapped for something else.
As an assassin rogue I really appreciate that crit severity was swapped for combat advantage.
Having Critical Severity as Forte stat is really useless for DPS classes in my opinion. Since there are several sources to reach the 90% cap.
Would be better and fair in terms of balance to replace it with CA, Accuracy or Crit Chance.
Take for example the Cleric Arbiter.
I managed to reach 90% out of combat with 10k Critical Severity under rating, having only Dark enchantments giving Forte and boon. (No companions giving crit sev).
In other toons that has not that stat in forte, i also reach 90% pretty easily.
Then we have Vorpal Enchantment, that becomes useless since it cannot go over 90%, and we have not other alternatives since we do few hits.
Please reconsider, at least for this paragon, to replace Critical Severity with something else usefull.
Thanks,
Aster
Vorpal's Critical Severity counts as an extra 90% of the cap and the only attribute added to the ratings would be the statuses acquired when using a Daily Power (+2% critical chance - i think).
> @admiralwarlord#3792 said: > Vorpal's Critical Severity counts as an extra 90% of the cap and the only attribute added to the ratings would be the statuses acquired when using a Daily Power (+2% critical chance - i think).
Well, i tested it, and it’s true. But no one confirmed that is intended. Anyway, the main problem is that having Critical Severity as a Forte stat is really wasted and penalizing for a DPS, especially in terms of balancing with other classes which can equally reach 90% pretty easy. For example i’ve my wizard and ranger with 90% crit severity and much higher percentages compared to the Cleric and the Barbarian. (Same equipment and pretty same IL)
Depending on how an insignia bonus works, it can reach 72% critical chance casually.
It's much easier to give us a chance to choose than to try to differentiate ourselves in a rigid way.
In my country there is a popular expression that is ''drying the ice''. I will not call it nerf, but an appreciation, since you have greatly reduced an attribute for it to be valued. This hasn't changed the fact that having Accuracy in the cap is better than having Critical Severity in the Fort. In my GWF builds it is only possible for me to achieve 90% Accuracy with Companion Enhancement Power that occurs randomly. But just criticizing is easy, I'll leave as a suggestion the creation of a companion with 7.5% Accuracy (Mythical) before these changes reach the live server, or an adaptation, Swap the 7.5% Power of Alpha Compy for Accuracy and add when in Chult + 7.5% Power.
As I quoted my previous comment so that it is notorious how having Accuracy in the Forte makes it easier to get the cap of the statuses that I believe everyone will focus on.
I can't found whu post screen shot withfull capp, power, acc and crit severity, but low CA Wats is important, so yea better get less acc and more CA or be in party with 4 hunters and turn on aspect of the pack (+25%) CA for all party, so hunters can cap, pow, acc, ca, and crit severity at max 90% with 57%crit rate, still I try got ansver or hunter class feature suppose to stack https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413698364954116109/789219186072485918/4_cap.PNG
BABY ZARIEL.... 270k base HUNTER
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darthpotaterMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,261Arc User
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Hunters were already very good, but this system is perfect for them. Accuracy in forte and awesome skills and features that have good sinergy with % values.
Wizards only can dream. We will find a way (trying tank build xD)
I would like to suggest, a "compromise" between open selection which has it's own issues, lack of trade offs, and per the post has implementation problems, and the current fixed per paragon thing, that will always make someone not happy with the choice they get, either it's not optimal, creates loser classes, doesn't fit play style, doesn't match with the gear and so on.
Seems to me that technically forte bonus works like sort of a feat that creates multipliers to other stats (very simple).
So how about this, create several Forte groups, they can be of couple of stats or more. And allow a selection of the Forte group. Each can come with some less welcomed stats, or all can be aimed towards actual specializations, that's up to the designers to chose. It leaves the option to add more of them in the future, and all the currently implemented can be used.
Ideas can be, Forte distributions for: healers, dps with more focused, dps with more spread, dps with focus on crit, more tanky dps, control oriented dps, tank with deflect, tank with awareness, "balanced" that spread little to all major stats. etc.. (just ideas)
They can even balance around more focused stats have less bonus overall, while more stats give a bit more, similar to one stats vs triple enchants. Three stat forte can be 50,25,25, totals to 100% while a 5 stat forte can be 25 20 20 20 20 totaling to 105% Or the other way, more stats you spread, less total you get (it's late and I didn't really think what's better or worse)
For example, and the names and actual stats distributions are just for the example, a player can choose any one distribution, but only one, regardless of the role or paragon. The names are only to convey the idea here.
The groups are predetermined and hardcoded, but allow selection as a spec, and players can vary per PvP / PvE, play style, and what not.
Visually it can be something like this:
Selected part of the spec, one option out of the possibilities. It will also create thematic cohesion with players can chose some specialization for their character.
Edit: In other words: Having a number of presets and picking one of those.
is it serious that nothing has been done or said regarding this idea? this new system is good for 1 reason, different build options, and the fact that Strong Termor fixed in specific statictics breaks the whole good part of the system.
This idea of the Forte groups is very good, and I would go further in terms of freedom and leave the 3 fort statuses entirely up to the player. being able to be on the screen of powers to choose, or even in a UI more simple inside the own statistics panel with buttons to activate and deactivate as in the image below.
I know that this freedom can bring more difficulty with regard to balancing, however I see that with this new system of statistics the changes made in the classes for the purpose of balancing will be very long-lasting. I believe that this brings to the game a new life in the immersive and customized part of your way of playing.
Cool Idea. It is my understanding that they purposely wanted forte to be different and tied to paragon, to force different builds and equipment... to reduce the universality of BiS equips.
Maybe a hybrid is possible, where 25% of forte is slotted to each of the 3 categories automatically, and players get to personally slot the last category to get 25% like on your graphic. It could be made permanent, once selected, but be changeable with a respec token or 50,000 AD. (the two sub-categories would not be selectable.. they would be pre-highlighted. Selecting your primary would be allowed.. bringing it up to 50% contribution.
If forte as a system has to stay, I'd really like to see it changed to selectable, even if it's choosing between presets. Forte has a very high impact on the performance of a class and it will likely come to a point where one class simply can't compete with another.
Speaking from PvP perspective, HR forte is the worst of all classes, having two completely useless stats. Unless forte becomes selectable which I'd prefer, please consider changing our deflect to any other defensive stat (defense or critical avoidance preferred, but even awareness would be an improvement) and our accuracy to any other offensive stat (ideally critical severity or critical strike).
They could make so you had two options for forte one depending on class and one depending on race. Would make the races more different and make them make a fortune in race reroll tokens.
Not really sure where this could go, so I figured I would put it in here with the Combat Changes-Forte since it is related to the Forte stat.
As a Devout Cleric our Forte stat gives
Paragon 50% Stat | 25% Stat 1 | 25% Stat 2 Divinity Regen | Critical Severity | Deflect
I would like to add a suggestion to give a place on the Stat Ratings list to show our actual Divinity Regeneration Rating or %. While I know many people would not really think this is an issue; it can go a long way to helping some players fine tune their builds and maximize their regen potential based on certain Encounters, Mechanics and Feats used. I admit I don't really know what my Divinity Regen is currently on live or on Preview server as there is no actual rating for it.
Mechanic: Righteousness - Increases effectiveness of healing spells (outgoing healing?) reduces divinity cost of healing spells and reduces threat generated by healing spells. Increased Divinity Regeneration Rate (is this percentage based or a fixed number?)
Feat: Cycle of Prayer Increases Divinity Regeneration Rate every 3 seconds (is this percentage based or a fixed number?), may stack up to 4 times. Resets stacks whenever an action consumes Divinity.
I would just like to see something in the Stat Ratings; maybe under BOOSTS that would allow a Devout Cleric to see what their actual Divinity Regeneration is. This could be fit into this category well as it will adjust in combat like the other Boosts do.
Thanks for reading
Khelgall Deepstone Outcasts of Neverwinter 80 Devout Cleric
So when other classes can get my secondary offensive forte critical severity to 90% without any dps stats loss how is this fair ? And my accuracy fully stacked up at 66% with companion enchantment power in comparison to them how is this fair?
Crit severity forte should be changed or extremly diminish items that gives critical severity so that all classes are on common ground period
So when other classes can get my secondary offensive forte critical severity to 90% without any dps stats loss how is this fair ? And my accuracy fully stacked up at 66% with companion enchantment power in comparison to them how is this fair?
Crit severity forte should be changed or extremly diminish items that gives critical severity so that all classes are on common ground period
I suspect Superior Flask of Potency and Wild Storm Elixir will be reworked (along with the other elixir/flask potions). They currently do not fit with the new system, as critical severity is a primary stat and no longer a utility stat, which makes the 17.5% critical severity from the two combined very excessive. I imagine these potions will only add stats to contribution (instead of rating), and also suspect the values will be decreased. My suggestion would be 2.5% to power/accuracy/crit/crit sev for flask, storm elixir 2.5% crit/crit sev or something like this. That way having crit sev forte won't be a burden.
So when other classes can get my secondary offensive forte critical severity to 90% without any dps stats loss how is this fair ? And my accuracy fully stacked up at 66% with companion enchantment power in comparison to them how is this fair?
Crit severity forte should be changed or extremly diminish items that gives critical severity so that all classes are on common ground period
I suspect Superior Flask of Potency and Wild Storm Elixir will be reworked (along with the other elixir/flask potions). They currently do not fit with the new system, as critical severity is a primary stat and no longer a utility stat, which makes the 17.5% critical severity from the two combined very excessive. I imagine these potions will only add stats to contribution (instead of rating), and also suspect the values will be decreased. My suggestion would be 2.5% to power/accuracy/crit/crit sev for flask, storm elixir 2.5% crit/crit sev or something like this. That way having crit sev forte won't be a burden.
It can adjust or nerf everything, which will do no good. Critical Severity is a damage modifier that depends on how much critical chance you have. With 90% accuracy you do not depend on another status, it is simple and easy to understand. If you find a PVP player pre-mod 16, ask him to explain to you why his builds only focused on Power and Armor Penetration. If i don't find any, i believe it still exists on Youtube or mmominds.
Well, since no one has shown me the new damage formula, and from what I've read, I believe it now works as Power works on the live server, with decreasing gains. In doing so we return to square one, since there is now the problem of Combat Advantage being much stronger, than the other statuses. Why wasn't the same Accuracy formula used for CA? It's a huge disadvantage to have Critical Severity in the Forte and I believe you know that. Before such changes reach the live server do you intend to make any adjustments to the GWF class?
I question that, because it will almost certainly be the worst class in the game. Just observe the powers of the class: Barbed Strikes, in live: Increases the severity of your critical strikes by 25%; on the preview server: +2.5%. Raging Strikes (Increases your critical severity by 10% when under the effect of Battlerage or Unstoppable) is currently the same as it is in the preview, only now Critical Severity has a roof. This, added to the changes in magnitude that were made in this module made the class viable, I speak feasible because it is not the strongest. In my rank I believe it occupies the 4th position among the 7 DPS classes.
To be demo, I'll be putting images of a construction of a TR with almost the same equipment as one of the build's I did for my GWF, all trying to achieve maximum status.
Finally, I would remind you that I was here in the preview of Mod 16 and remember very well when came out the first patch and the GWF class came super strong, but after many nerf's in the following pacht's it became rubbish for a long time, even with many warning you that you were killing the class. Now I'm here again warning and I hope this time it happens differently.
SW damage is just Nuts TR damage can break Chult Training Dummy HR damage is over the roof with Bugs not fixed till now and this was reported by Players in Bug Section
Barbarian Blademaster DPS on ACT Chart Bilethorn DOT's Damage Percentage is 20% So When Bilethorn is adjusted Probably to 40% to be inline with Other Enchants that will significantly lower the Barbarian's DPS
Assume my Forte is 60% that means my critical Severity from Forte is 15% Please Re-adjust Consumables because as of Right Now Wildstorm Elixir grants 10% Critical Severity and the Potion from Alchemy Grants 7.3% Critical Severity
That means through consumables any class can get a Barbarian BladeMaster's Secondary Forte using Consumables Without Losing on any other Offensive Stats to Get to My Class Caps (Which is unfair)
If you don't want to adjust Consumables then please Change the Barbarian's Secondary Forte because as of now it is at very very bad spot
1) Forte on UTILITY SLOTS is super bad. It will be literally the only option you can run now. Remove Forte from all utility enchantments!!!!
2) Divinity Regeneration tied to Forte. Do you not see a gigantic problem with this? A low level healer will have much greater problems with divinity management than a fully geared healer. Absolutely astounding bad game design, whomever thought this up should be terminated at once
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It would be nice if the system could work without forte, it causes more problems that it fixes, but I think is too late for that.
1) Forte on UTILITY SLOTS is super bad. It will be literally the only option you can run now. Remove Forte from all utility enchantments!!!!
2) Divinity Regeneration tied to Forte. Do you not see a gigantic problem with this? A low level healer will have much greater problems with divinity management than a fully geared healer. Absolutely astounding bad game design, whomever thought this up should be terminated at once
1. I think this is more an issue that the other options should be buffed. If you remove Forte, that makes Incoming healing as the only option for endgame utility slots, should that be removed too? 2. Isn't point of gearing up to make things easier and be able to do more content? Should people who come up with the idea that the better gear you get the less time you need to kill enemy be terminated at once too? Your logic just doesn't make sense.
Divinity regen is not really any different from adding charisma to have shorter cooldowns, that being said the amount really needs to be increased, too much forte has to be stacked to match divinity regen on live and the changes are suppose to make healers more needed, so they'll need to spend more divinity.
Arazith: The point of UTILITY slots is to provide UTILITY. If your utility slots are simply providing valuable slats....either change all other utility options so they can compete or remove the problem (much easier to remove the problem).
Your healing already gets stronger as you gain item level....why make your resource management harder at lower levels? If you dont understand this....dont know what to tell ya
You have boons and insignias that also give forte, utility slots can be utility. As for resource management tanks have the same situation, wasted your taunt during second phase in zariel? Fail tank swap for lack of hard taunt. Wasted Daily and encounter for damage reduction? Get slaughtered by halaster's tank buster. Wasted stamina on at wills? Tank buster takes you down. Low-end tanks have less hp, stamina regen, Ap gain and possibly longer cooldowns, that's resource management. You don't need darks in your utility slots, in fact insignias can give more to your forte than darks overall. As mentioned, I said base amount of divinity regen should be increased, because you shouldn't have to stack a lot to match live. But if a healer feels they're managing well they can substitute regen for something else, like fortitude insignias...
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Arazith: The point of UTILITY slots is to provide UTILITY. If your utility slots are simply providing valuable slats....either change all other utility options so they can compete or remove the problem (much easier to remove the problem).
Your healing already gets stronger as you gain item level....why make your resource management harder at lower levels? If you dont understand this....dont know what to tell ya
Did you have a problem with the companion influence that Forte is replacing? What would you suggest in it's place?
Having more resource regen with Forte does not make the regen worse at lower levels. It adds to it at higher levels. The base Forte amount is enough to bring new players to what they have on live, and as one adds more forte, they gain more regen. In all honestly though , we are talking about a handful of resource per tick, an amount that is hardly worth anything. What does need to happen is for forte to have an actual effect on it instead of the minuscule amount that is on Preview atm.
> @horus#3657 said: > @noworries#8859 > Barbarian BladeMaster is performing so Bad > > SW damage is just Nuts > TR damage can break Chult Training Dummy > HR damage is over the roof with Bugs not fixed till now and this was reported by Players in Bug Section > > Barbarian Blademaster DPS on ACT Chart Bilethorn DOT's Damage Percentage is 20% > So When Bilethorn is adjusted Probably to 40% to be inline with Other Enchants that will significantly lower the Barbarian's DPS > > Assume my Forte is 60% that means my critical Severity from Forte is 15% > Please Re-adjust Consumables because as of Right Now Wildstorm Elixir grants 10% Critical Severity and the Potion from Alchemy Grants 7.3% Critical Severity > > That means through consumables any class can get a Barbarian BladeMaster's Secondary Forte using Consumables Without Losing on any other Offensive Stats to Get to My Class Caps (Which is unfair) > > If you don't want to adjust Consumables then please Change the Barbarian's Secondary Forte because as of now it is at very very bad spot
One of the top barbarians currently has the highest encdps on preview server at the moment. "Worst class in the game." Kek xD wizard would like a word with you. There are ways to min max properly to perfectly cap crit sev on crit sev forte classes (i play an arbiter and have done this). None of the crit sev is wasted.
> HR damage is over the roof with Bugs not fixed till now and this was reported by Players in Bug Section
>
> Barbarian Blademaster DPS on ACT Chart Bilethorn DOT's Damage Percentage is 20%
> So When Bilethorn is adjusted Probably to 40% to be inline with Other Enchants that will significantly lower the Barbarian's DPS
>
> Assume my Forte is 60% that means my critical Severity from Forte is 15%
> Please Re-adjust Consumables because as of Right Now Wildstorm Elixir grants 10% Critical Severity and the Potion from Alchemy Grants 7.3% Critical Severity
>
> That means through consumables any class can get a Barbarian BladeMaster's Secondary Forte using Consumables Without Losing on any other Offensive Stats to Get to My Class Caps (Which is unfair)
>
> If you don't want to adjust Consumables then please Change the Barbarian's Secondary Forte because as of now it is at very very bad spot
One of the top barbarians currently has the highest encdps on preview server at the moment. "Worst class in the game." Kek xD wizard would like a word with you. There are ways to min max properly to perfectly cap crit sev on crit sev forte classes (i play an arbiter and have done this). None of the crit sev is wasted.
I have seen no difficulty in getting the Critical Severity cap on the ranger, and this using Quick Action on the mount bonus, while in my barbarian I have been trying anyway to use it and to no avail.
I have seen no difficulty in getting the Critical Severity cap on the ranger, and this using Quick Action on the mount bonus, while in my barbarian I have been trying anyway to use it and to no avail.
I am not the only Barbarian Blademaster who is telling you this is wrong and bad for Barbarian Blademaster Adjust the bilethorn DoT with ICD on the enchant itself, (This enchant is causing wack on all classes and the DoT is just making Damage Loop)
If you do that surprisingly you will see some classes how they stand at, and if you are building Real System build it on real ground that does not use broken items
SW know what i am talking about when half their damage was built upon broken companion during Barovia Campaign
I would really like to know how it was that old Bilethorn DoT was lacking behind other enchants, who was the genius who calculated the enchant DoT damage?
I am computer science graduate and i am telling you it is over performing by a lot, beyond Enchants with -4% Damage
Bilethorn DoT should be 40% Magnitude or keep it at 60% with ICD to proc it, don't make it proc on every power
Minor Question that will help you fix the bilethorn: how do you keep tracking of the DoT or you just let it add DoT tick on every attack (because i know it does the later not what the tooltip says it does and if used with some items oh boy watch how many times it procs over and over)
if that is what the devs wants to do and use broken item by all means i will do that gladly and not report any more to the Bro who personally does report to you on broken stuff
You guys said the enchant adjustment is meant to make it not to make it that 1 enchant is the best of them all well that genius adjustment did the opposite of what you said
But If you are claiming this system is meant to be building fault proof system do that without broken items Period
BTW i have Bilethorn already rank 12 with 2 coal wards waiting till everything is adjusted for real so people don't comment smirking because you don't have it
Now Looking at the Barbarian
SW and Ranger can cap the Critical Severity without losing single offensive stat % , there are many sources in this game for critical severity (Wild Elixir Storm alone is 10% Critical Severity , alchemy Potion has 7.3% Critical severity) here you go barbarian forte using Potions that persists with dying as well
So other classes can Get Barbarian's Class Secondary Forte without any compensation how is this Fair ?
why was Barbarian class Feat Overpenetration got nerfed from 10% Damage to 5%? For me as Barbarian to have this feat enabled I have to cap 2 stats just to have that damage %
In this system this is just freaking hard to achieve because you have to calculate each piece of gear and what you need to adjust to have that now from 10% to 5% which is expensive to achieve
are you guys for real!!
if you are gonna push a system that says this is my Secondary Forte make it that other classes that don't have this Forte have to make a choice like my class has to have that choice for Accuracy, Critical Strike, Combat Advantage when building my character, right now it is not on fair grounds by any means
As salty that is but it is the truth when on ACT my Total Damage is half of another Class and both of us are DPS
Some will tell you just spec to Tank and play this mod as Sentinal Tank Devs said it before Sentinal Tank is the most underperforming Tank of all 3 and needs rework and I like playing Blademaster
So both Barbarian Paragon are just Meh right now
Either you do some adjusting or go with the player's idea of having Forte Set by Players Period
My Final Message for real ================== I know you guys like everyone is having break
But If this is pushed as it stands right now for the Forte alone
I will shelf playing this Game till this is figured out and come by May to check again, and i will tell you this right now my Gaming Money going somewhere else period
From my testing forte' may be over rated. A 300 point increase in forte' increases your forte' total% by .3%, which increases your 3 forte' ratings stats by .1% to total%. What I would like to know is, does a 3000 point increase add 1% to each of the forte' ratings stat?
Does this amount of bonus from forte' really make that much difference in the big picture?
@horus#3657 The barbarian is one of the top performing classes on preview right now, this is a problem of user error (meaning, you’re the one that’s not playing the class efficiently)
From my testing forte' may be over rated. A 300 point increase in forte' increases your forte' total% by .3%, which increases your 3 forte' ratings stats by .1% to total%. What I would like to know is, does a 3000 point increase add 1% to each of the forte' ratings stat?
Does this amount of bonus from forte' really make that much difference in the big picture?
1% = 1000 of any status > 300 Forte = 0,3% (insignia of dominance) > 3000 = 3% = 1500 Power + 750 secondary offensive status + 750 defensive status if u is a DPS.
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Would be better and fair in terms of balance to replace it with CA, Accuracy or Crit Chance.
Take for example the Cleric Arbiter.
I managed to reach 90% out of combat with 10k Critical Severity under rating, having only Dark enchantments giving Forte and boon. (No companions giving crit sev).
In other toons that has not that stat in forte, i also reach 90% pretty easily.
Then we have Vorpal Enchantment, that becomes useless since it cannot go over 90%, and we have not other alternatives since we do few hits.
Please reconsider, at least for this paragon, to replace Critical Severity with something else usefull.
Thanks,
Aster
It is way harder to get the bonus percentages in the not rating category for most other stats. For the most part it's just Boons, companion powers, ability scores. So I would also prefer if crit severity in the forte stat was swapped for something else.
As an assassin rogue I really appreciate that crit severity was swapped for combat advantage.
> Vorpal's Critical Severity counts as an extra 90% of the cap and the only attribute added to the ratings would be the statuses acquired when using a Daily Power (+2% critical chance - i think).
Well, i tested it, and it’s true. But no one confirmed that is intended.
Anyway, the main problem is that having Critical Severity as a Forte stat is really wasted and penalizing for a DPS, especially in terms of balancing with other classes which can equally reach 90% pretty easy.
For example i’ve my wizard and ranger with 90% crit severity and much higher percentages compared to the Cleric and the Barbarian. (Same equipment and pretty same IL)
Thanks,
Aster
As I quoted my previous comment so that it is notorious how having Accuracy in the Forte makes it easier to get the cap of the statuses that I believe everyone will focus on.
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This idea of the Forte groups is very good, and I would go further in terms of freedom and leave the 3 fort statuses entirely up to the player. being able to be on the screen of powers to choose, or even in a UI more simple inside the own statistics panel with buttons to activate and deactivate as in the image below.
I know that this freedom can bring more difficulty with regard to balancing, however I see that with this new system of statistics the changes made in the classes for the purpose of balancing will be very long-lasting. I believe that this brings to the game a new life in the immersive and customized part of your way of playing.
Cool Idea. It is my understanding that they purposely wanted forte to be different and tied to paragon, to force different builds and equipment... to reduce the universality of BiS equips.
Maybe a hybrid is possible, where 25% of forte is slotted to each of the 3 categories automatically, and players get to personally slot the last category to get 25% like on your graphic. It could be made permanent, once selected, but be changeable with a respec token or 50,000 AD. (the two sub-categories would not be selectable.. they would be pre-highlighted. Selecting your primary would be allowed.. bringing it up to 50% contribution.
Speaking from PvP perspective, HR forte is the worst of all classes, having two completely useless stats. Unless forte becomes selectable which I'd prefer, please consider changing our deflect to any other defensive stat (defense or critical avoidance preferred, but even awareness would be an improvement) and our accuracy to any other offensive stat (ideally critical severity or critical strike).
Would make the races more different and make them make a fortune in race reroll tokens.
Not really sure where this could go, so I figured I would put it in here with the Combat Changes-Forte since it is related to the Forte stat.
As a Devout Cleric our Forte stat gives
Paragon 50% Stat | 25% Stat 1 | 25% Stat 2
Divinity Regen | Critical Severity | Deflect
I would like to add a suggestion to give a place on the Stat Ratings list to show our actual Divinity Regeneration Rating or %. While I know many people would not really think this is an issue; it can go a long way to helping some players fine tune their builds and maximize their regen potential based on certain Encounters, Mechanics and Feats used. I admit I don't really know what my Divinity Regen is currently on live or on Preview server as there is no actual rating for it.
Encounter:
Divine Glow - threat reduction, added effect Divinity Regeneration 12s.
Mechanic:
Righteousness - Increases effectiveness of healing spells (outgoing healing?) reduces divinity cost of healing spells and reduces threat generated by healing spells. Increased Divinity Regeneration Rate (is this percentage based or a fixed number?)
Feat:
Cycle of Prayer Increases Divinity Regeneration Rate every 3 seconds (is this percentage based or a fixed number?), may stack up to 4 times. Resets stacks whenever an action consumes Divinity.
I would just like to see something in the Stat Ratings; maybe under BOOSTS that would allow a Devout Cleric to see what their actual Divinity Regeneration is. This could be fit into this category well as it will adjust in combat like the other Boosts do.
Thanks for reading
Outcasts of Neverwinter
80 Devout Cleric
Crit severity forte should be changed or extremly diminish items that gives critical severity so that all classes are on common ground period
Well, since no one has shown me the new damage formula, and from what I've read, I believe it now works as Power works on the live server, with decreasing gains. In doing so we return to square one, since there is now the problem of Combat Advantage being much stronger, than the other statuses. Why wasn't the same Accuracy formula used for CA? It's a huge disadvantage to have Critical Severity in the Forte and I believe you know that. Before such changes reach the live server do you intend to make any adjustments to the GWF class?
I question that, because it will almost certainly be the worst class in the game. Just observe the powers of the class: Barbed Strikes, in live: Increases the severity of your critical strikes by 25%; on the preview server: +2.5%. Raging Strikes (Increases your critical severity by 10% when under the effect of Battlerage or Unstoppable) is currently the same as it is in the preview, only now Critical Severity has a roof. This, added to the changes in magnitude that were made in this module made the class viable, I speak feasible because it is not the strongest. In my rank I believe it occupies the 4th position among the 7 DPS classes.
To be demo, I'll be putting images of a construction of a TR with almost the same equipment as one of the build's I did for my GWF, all trying to achieve maximum status.
TR preview: https://ibb.co/PGR10W4
GWF preview: https://ibb.co/BGJZwkL
Finally, I would remind you that I was here in the preview of Mod 16 and remember very well when came out the first patch and the GWF class came super strong, but after many nerf's in the following pacht's it became rubbish for a long time, even with many warning you that you were killing the class. Now I'm here again warning and I hope this time it happens differently.
Barbarian BladeMaster is performing so Bad
SW damage is just Nuts
TR damage can break Chult Training Dummy
HR damage is over the roof with Bugs not fixed till now and this was reported by Players in Bug Section
Barbarian Blademaster DPS on ACT Chart Bilethorn DOT's Damage Percentage is 20%
So When Bilethorn is adjusted Probably to 40% to be inline with Other Enchants that will significantly lower the Barbarian's DPS
Assume my Forte is 60% that means my critical Severity from Forte is 15%
Please Re-adjust Consumables because as of Right Now Wildstorm Elixir grants 10% Critical Severity and the Potion from Alchemy Grants 7.3% Critical Severity
That means through consumables any class can get a Barbarian BladeMaster's Secondary Forte using Consumables Without Losing on any other Offensive Stats to Get to My Class Caps (Which is unfair)
If you don't want to adjust Consumables then please Change the Barbarian's Secondary Forte because as of now it is at very very bad spot
1) Forte on UTILITY SLOTS is super bad. It will be literally the only option you can run now. Remove Forte from all utility enchantments!!!!
2) Divinity Regeneration tied to Forte. Do you not see a gigantic problem with this? A low level healer will have much greater problems with divinity management than a fully geared healer. Absolutely astounding bad game design, whomever thought this up should be terminated at once
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2. Isn't point of gearing up to make things easier and be able to do more content? Should people who come up with the idea that the better gear you get the less time you need to kill enemy be terminated at once too? Your logic just doesn't make sense.
Your healing already gets stronger as you gain item level....why make your resource management harder at lower levels? If you dont understand this....dont know what to tell ya
Having more resource regen with Forte does not make the regen worse at lower levels. It adds to it at higher levels. The base Forte amount is enough to bring new players to what they have on live, and as one adds more forte, they gain more regen. In all honestly though , we are talking about a handful of resource per tick, an amount that is hardly worth anything. What does need to happen is for forte to have an actual effect on it instead of the minuscule amount that is on Preview atm.
> @noworries#8859
> Barbarian BladeMaster is performing so Bad
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> SW damage is just Nuts
> TR damage can break Chult Training Dummy
> HR damage is over the roof with Bugs not fixed till now and this was reported by Players in Bug Section
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> Barbarian Blademaster DPS on ACT Chart Bilethorn DOT's Damage Percentage is 20%
> So When Bilethorn is adjusted Probably to 40% to be inline with Other Enchants that will significantly lower the Barbarian's DPS
>
> Assume my Forte is 60% that means my critical Severity from Forte is 15%
> Please Re-adjust Consumables because as of Right Now Wildstorm Elixir grants 10% Critical Severity and the Potion from Alchemy Grants 7.3% Critical Severity
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> That means through consumables any class can get a Barbarian BladeMaster's Secondary Forte using Consumables Without Losing on any other Offensive Stats to Get to My Class Caps (Which is unfair)
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> If you don't want to adjust Consumables then please Change the Barbarian's Secondary Forte because as of now it is at very very bad spot
One of the top barbarians currently has the highest encdps on preview server at the moment. "Worst class in the game." Kek xD wizard would like a word with you. There are ways to min max properly to perfectly cap crit sev on crit sev forte classes (i play an arbiter and have done this). None of the crit sev is wasted.
https://ibb.co/vqhdgYK
Adjust the bilethorn DoT with ICD on the enchant itself, (This enchant is causing wack on all classes and the DoT is just making Damage Loop)
If you do that surprisingly you will see some classes how they stand at, and if you are building Real System build it on real ground that does not use broken items
SW know what i am talking about when half their damage was built upon broken companion during Barovia Campaign
I would really like to know how it was that old Bilethorn DoT was lacking behind other enchants, who was the genius who calculated the enchant DoT damage?
I am computer science graduate and i am telling you it is over performing by a lot, beyond Enchants with -4% Damage
Bilethorn DoT should be 40% Magnitude or keep it at 60% with ICD to proc it, don't make it proc on every power
Minor Question that will help you fix the bilethorn:
how do you keep tracking of the DoT or you just let it add DoT tick on every attack (because i know it does the later not what the tooltip says it does and if used with some items oh boy watch how many times it procs over and over)
if that is what the devs wants to do and use broken item by all means i will do that gladly and not report any more to the Bro who personally does report to you on broken stuff
You guys said the enchant adjustment is meant to make it not to make it that 1 enchant is the best of them all
well that genius adjustment did the opposite of what you said
But If you are claiming this system is meant to be building fault proof system do that without broken items Period
BTW i have Bilethorn already rank 12 with 2 coal wards waiting till everything is adjusted for real
so people don't comment smirking because you don't have it
Now Looking at the Barbarian
SW and Ranger can cap the Critical Severity without losing single offensive stat % , there are many sources in this game for critical severity (Wild Elixir Storm alone is 10% Critical Severity , alchemy Potion has 7.3% Critical severity) here you go barbarian forte using Potions that persists with dying as well
So other classes can Get Barbarian's Class Secondary Forte without any compensation how is this Fair ?
why was Barbarian class Feat Overpenetration got nerfed from 10% Damage to 5%?
For me as Barbarian to have this feat enabled I have to cap 2 stats just to have that damage %
In this system this is just freaking hard to achieve because you have to calculate each piece of gear and what you need to adjust to have that now from 10% to 5% which is expensive to achieve
are you guys for real!!
if you are gonna push a system that says this is my Secondary Forte make it that other classes that don't have this Forte have to make a choice like my class has to have that choice for Accuracy, Critical Strike, Combat Advantage when building my character, right now it is not on fair grounds by any means
As salty that is but it is the truth when on ACT my Total Damage is half of another Class and both of us are DPS
Some will tell you just spec to Tank and play this mod as Sentinal Tank
Devs said it before Sentinal Tank is the most underperforming Tank of all 3 and needs rework and I like playing Blademaster
So both Barbarian Paragon are just Meh right now
Either you do some adjusting or go with the player's idea of having Forte Set by Players Period
My Final Message for real
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I know you guys like everyone is having break
But If this is pushed as it stands right now for the Forte alone
I will shelf playing this Game till this is figured out and come by May to check again, and i will tell you this right now my Gaming Money going somewhere else period
What I would like to know is, does a 3000 point increase add 1% to each of the forte' ratings stat?
Does this amount of bonus from forte' really make that much difference in the big picture?