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the1truehunter
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So for my understanding there is a pack in Zen Store that gives you 3 legendary mounts of you choice, not to mention BEST IN SLOT ONES!, to be ACCOUNT WIDE (reclaimable on all characters) for 15k zen worth 11.25m AD you get equiped all of your characters with 3 of the bis Legendary Mounts. HOW ON EARTH IS THIS FAIR FOR ME AS A PLAYER WHO SPENT 30M AD FOR 3 LEGENDARY MOUNTS JUST FEW WEEKS AGO THAT ARE NOW BOUND TO CHARACTER? How do I find my way to play further this game being scamed in this way? After 6 years of playing this game I never been more 
than now. I want my mounts to be account wide too, or this kind of merchadise is not fear at all!!! How I am gonna trust you now and play your game if you keep putting us to the ground every time we spent a fortune of time and resources equiping our characters just to arrive in this kind of situation?!
Do not mention the fact that if you are not going to unlock all the mounts account wide in the future, you will just give people that bought this pack via ZAX, the chance to get over 4 times the amount of Zen/AD they spent to buy and sell this pack. This will make a huge gap in the game economy. I hope that your team took in cosideration this kind of movement when you decided this is the right moment to do such a big thing.
@nitocris83 @cwhitesidedev#9752
than now. I want my mounts to be account wide too, or this kind of merchadise is not fear at all!!! How I am gonna trust you now and play your game if you keep putting us to the ground every time we spent a fortune of time and resources equiping our characters just to arrive in this kind of situation?!Do not mention the fact that if you are not going to unlock all the mounts account wide in the future, you will just give people that bought this pack via ZAX, the chance to get over 4 times the amount of Zen/AD they spent to buy and sell this pack. This will make a huge gap in the game economy. I hope that your team took in cosideration this kind of movement when you decided this is the right moment to do such a big thing.
@nitocris83 @cwhitesidedev#9752
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They put Legendary mount in Zen store for a short period of time.
Then, people complained that should be account wide (in that short period of time).
Now, they put account wide Legendary mount pack in Zen store for a short period of time. People complained again.
They cannot please everyone.
When everyone have Legendary mount, I bet there will be Mystic mount.
But this sale they put out, it seems, is only for a time limited, and will not always be there in the ZEN Store.
Mentioning how long you've been playing, and how much AD it cost you to purchase them before SHOULD have no impact on this sale that they put out, even if you DID buy a LEGENDARY MOUNT from the AH for 10kk AD a minute ago before the PACK became available in the ZEN Store.
I was pretty sure I will never have a legendary mount as I would have to bind it to one of my chars - and Cryptic has a tendency to nerf any char I fancy into oblivion with the next mod. I do not enjoy making substantial investments just for one mod.
So, account wide legendary mounts? This sounds at least somehow worth consideration.
http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/54/bd/54bd2ca6d414b2dd47b3a34298ba6e811581629520.jpg
or they won't be selling any more lockbox keys bundles in the near future.
Anyway, what would be the best 3 account-wide mounts from that pack?
I'll probably go with the Swarm, Disc and Griffon or Bulette, but i'm not sure... suggestions?
> @regenerde said:
> Well, mythic mounts wrapped up in a new lockbox are probably going to be the next "big surprise" from the 2020 roadmap
> http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/54/bd/54bd2ca6d414b2dd47b3a34298ba6e811581629520.jpg
> or they won't be selling any more lockbox keys bundles in the near future.
>
> Anyway, what would be the best 3 account-wide mounts from that pack?
> I'll probably go with the Swarm, Disc and Griffon or Bulette, but i'm not sure... suggestions?
the way we will be screwed is if this is a precursor to introducing mythic mounts. lol (or the game folding of course)
It doesn't take a lawyer to come on here and prove that the game has a "buyer beware" status, that nothing is guaranteed, etc.. bla bla bla.
The over-arching truth is that a great many players spent a thousand dollars over the last year to buy a set of Legendary Mounts for several of their charcters. Not only did they pay 5x as much... it gave them an inferior version that can't be swapped to a new character.
We all know there is NO legal basis for retribution, and that anything we pay for is at our OWN risk, but to me that is not enough. Cryptic knows what they are doing and how badly it will hurt some of their most loyal paying players. Sometimes I think other players like it when they see another player get 'screwed' by Cryptic. I think it makes them feel good to see another get hurt, maybe cause they got hurt once, or because it put them ahead of the other player.
I, for one, think Cryptic should think about these things before making a significant release like this. Our decline in players is in part, due to failure to consider the effect on players. Now, I love the pack and might buy one even though I've spent $1000.00 over the years on Zen for Legendary Mounts. I don't like seeing other players get hurt, and I certainly don't like throwing my money away either.
1. Prices of legendary mounts are really high, nearly ruined economy. If you want buy one with AD keep in mind someone need to buy it with real cash via Keys or now on Sale. If you want get Prices down, aswell costs in AD, you need increase offer.
2. I was - not amused - about Stardock buggate. But now you should be happy so many players are willing to pay these amounts for the game you like to play that much. It will help to make it better if they plan to invest.
Congrats all new owners of legendary mounts.
@nitocris83 Good Job! Now only keep in mind you will see much more demand of war triceratops. You cannot get them via sell but many will sell parts of their 3 Mounts and with that AD boost they will demand war triceratops. We will maybe see prices of 40 Millions AD++. And all is short in endgame are tanks. Now we get much more ready DPS/Healer without boost in playerbase of tanks for same content. -> More waiting times.
I've been converting AD to Zen since December2019 for June2020 sale but now this pack depleted most of my zen.
Personally I am ecstatic they release this pack.
*Anyone trading an account wide mount for another please be careful of trade scams, make sure the mount you are trading for also have "....- Account" in the name, ie [Swarm - Account] and that the mount is BoE when the person linked it to you in chat.
@nitocris83 @cwhitesidedev#9752
The current Legendary Mount of Choice Pack will make previous Legendary Mounts owner felt cheated,
I understand that its player choice to buy during that time period and agrees on what they purchase.
Do remember its also player choice who continue supporting Neverwinter or play some other MMO as well, i don't want to lose anymore friends because of things like these.
All Legendary comes from Zen store (lock box key or purchase), i know this might sound ridiculous i would suggest to make all Legendary Mount Account Wide. Its a game its not reality it wont hurt the company to make all existing legendary mount account wide.
But i doubt that's going to happen, i guess all we're going get is a sugar-coated "HAMSTER happens, deal with it." response, if we get any official word at all, they might just consider sitting this one out quietly, and there's nothing anyone of us could do about it either.
Still thinking about which mounts to pick, one of my first thoughts was to go for a +Power mount, but with a new module not that too far away, and the changes they might throw at us with it, i'm starting to wonder if that's going to be a good "investment"...
Thats the way it is - and has been. Am I salty about all the stuff I got/farmed for/Zax'd for before M16? Sometimes. But I spent it willingly, nobody ordered me to do it.
I will never buy anything from that company!!
Everything devaluates with time. Someones learn with 1 million things, others never learn. Soon this pack will be devaluated too. And then everyone who bought it will come here to complain.
Ce la vie.
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Many participants in the CDP advocated to have more account bound stuff (instead of char bound). They now got it.
Chris indicated, that he is also in favor of moving from char-bound to account-bound stuff, so this pack is also in line with future game direction indicated by the EP.
And I agree. It will help the game in the long run, if we have more account-bound stuff (instead of char-bound).
And yet it hurts me, personally: I have three swarm mounts in inventory, that I would have liked to have sold on AH.
Before this pack came out, I could have sold them for ~10 million AD each.
Now I do not even want to look at the current (very likely still plummeting) price in AH.
So I lost quite a bit of AD because of this decision.
Do I throw a tantrum? NO!
I think it is rather obvious:
- some things need to change, so that the game becomes more attractive on the long run
- in the transition period, where these changes have to take effect, many old (and usually very wealthy) players will have some of their stuff devalued
- that's life. Things change. The alternative would be: nothing changes and the game dies
Lets hope, that there is a strategy behind this (and future) sales of a similar kind.
What worries me a bit, is the following:
If account-bound legendary mounts become available regularly at the ZEN shop, this could hurt the "play for free" business model, on which the game is based. Why?
This game can be played entirely for free, because of the ZAX exchange.
Free players earn AD in game and can convert AD to ZEN via ZAX.
This gives them enough ZEN to buy the ZEN-exclusive stuff (character slots, bank slots, loadouts, etc.)
In order that this model works, the people with money must have an incentive to convert ZEN (bought from real money) into AD.
The incentive obviously is, to have items available, that can ONLY be acquired in game (and are sold on AH for AD).
Cash players thus want AD, to buy these things from AH. They buy ZEN and convert to AD via ZAX.
If you could buy everything valuable via ZEN, the ZAX could not work.
"free to play" players could not convert their AD to ZEN and buy the necessary ZEN-exclusive stuff, at least not without spending real money.
So far, the legendary mounts were the most valuable thing, that could only be acquired only "in game" (via lockboxes).
It is very likely, that a large part of the ZAX turnover came from legendary mounts.
If we can buy them in the ZEN store, why would a paying customer want to buy ZEN and convert it to AD?
Assuming there is a strategy behind the decision to sell this pack, I see two options:
- they are planning to completely revise the free to play model (so that revenue is generated rather differently)
- they are planning to replace the legendary mounts as "high value items, not obtainable via ZEN" by something different, for instance mystic mounts.
Just my two cents
I hope it is just a promotion for new players, to make Bis items more accessible and that the company also profits.
In the script there was already information about everything in the future to be bound account, so that didn't surprise me. I only have to regret my bad luck, 1 month before the preview of the Mod 16 I bought a Legendary Deepcrow (power mount bugged, please fix it) for my GF Tactical Buff, a function that no longer exists and was a bad investment since I didn't serves, and exactly 2 weeks ago I spent all my AD to acquire a mount with 10k power for my CW, AD that now would make me have a Swarm account and maybe a Tenser account as well.