Shirts and Trousers of the Spy's Guild... where are they?

lordseth1985

I really dunno what to say here... where is the shirts and pants? On collections tab it's said that they can be found on Undermountain Seals vendor, but they aren't there, only rings and armor pieces. BUT it's really strange that protege's shirts and trousers can be purchased there. Why this Cryptic, WHYYY???


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greywynd

The Spies hid them all...

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adinosii

Actually, this question has been asked since the closed alpha playtest.

It was also one of the questions I submitted for the recent Q&A (where it was ignored).

Another related question is why we cannot buy rAD for seals of the mountain.

demonmonger

Dont monsters drop these?

greywynd

No.

kiraskytower

Perhaps they decided there was just too much similarity between these, the Protege ones and the prized cult ones? It would be nice to see perhaps another set with a different bonuses. Right now there really is no reason to get these when the protege ones have the same bonus with better stats.

rjc9000

lordseth1985 said:

I really dunno what to say here... where is the shirts and pants? On collections tab it's said that they can be found on Undermountain Seals vendor, but they aren't there, only rings and armor pieces. BUT it's really strange that protege's shirts and trousers can be purchased there. Why this Cryptic, WHYYY???

They are easter eggs intended to be found through rigorous exploration and paying attention to the lore.

kiraskytower said:

Perhaps they decided there was just too much similarity between these, the Protege ones and the prized cult ones? It would be nice to see perhaps another set with a different bonuses. Right now there really is no reason to get these when the protege ones have the same bonus with better stats.

Perhaps the same could be said of many of the tiered gear from Blundermountain, or even previous modules.

Almost all of them feature the same stat distribution based on the suffix (ex: "Raid" suffix items might give Accuracy and Crit on Rings). The only differences between the similar versions are the minor increase or decrease in stats based on the tier, the set bonus, and the armor's skin (of which has "interesting" interactions with the transmute option).

Anyways, I would guess that the devs don't want to put these items in the seals store for the purpose of giving incentive for people to run their "endgame dungeon". If the Spy's Guild shirt and pants were available from the seals vendor, I'd just gear all my chars with the Spy's Guild Shirt & Pants.

Living with the "penalty" of slightly lowered stats is more than worth the convenience of never needing to put up with trying to get a group that doesn't ignore me on sight for playing a bottom tier class.

genadine

kiraskytower said:

Perhaps they decided there was just too much similarity between these, the Protege ones and the prized cult ones? It would be nice to see perhaps another set with a different bonuses. Right now there really is no reason to get these when the protege ones have the same bonus with better stats.

Not everyone is running or even capable of running LoMM so these should be available for the masses.

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artifleur

It's an easter egg. We have to look for them, and if we look very very hard the devs will patch them in.

tassedethe13

rjc9000 said:

They are easter eggs intended to be found through rigorous exploration and paying attention to the lore.

This is so true

nitocris83

EDIT: Verified it's been fixed internally and will be available in a future patch.

From Systems Designer Chantelle in the AMA "For the shirt and pants, it seems that one or more of the classes' stores don't have them. I'll look into this and try and get this fixed in the next available patch."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/bzy5ei/we_are_the_the_neverwinter_systems_team_ask_us/eqylca2/

drumon88

nitocris83 said:

EDIT: Verified it's been fixed internally and will be available in a future patch.

From Systems Designer Chantelle in the AMA "For the shirt and pants, it seems that one or more of the classes' stores don't have them. I'll look into this and try and get this fixed in the next available patch."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/bzy5ei/we_are_the_the_neverwinter_systems_team_ask_us/eqylca2/

We've been reporting this consistently since Preview, why are we just now getting an acknowledgement on this?

We're looking at 2 months from launch and over 3 months since first report before a fix, and nearly that in acknowledgement time. That's pretty terrible.

And in the same vein the Mountaineer set STILL isn't in the tradebar store.

darthpotater

drumon88 said:

We've been reporting this consistently since Preview, why are we just now getting an acknowledgement on this?

We're looking at 2 months from launch and over 3 months since first report before a fix, and nearly that in acknowledgement time. That's pretty terrible.

And in the same vein the Mountaineer set STILL isn't in the tradebar store.

Ofc is part of the plan. Anyone at this point have a doubt about some things that arent fixed or arent in the game yet is part of a strategy? cmon they fix things in 1 day when they want to.

Mountaineer weapons arent in the game because they were in the 200$ pack. They will release soon because 2 months passed and we will be testing mod 17 in few weeks.

Some feats / powers / things are broken because they dont know how to balance them yet. Like tenebrous enchantment, they took 1,5 months to fix them, and they came with a modification (dmg cap). They didnt need 1,5 months to fix it, they needed 1,5 monts to DECIDE HOW to fix it.

And some things are broken forever for the same reason. Accept it. Is Neverwinter an the team is verys small. They preffer to not take risks with fast fixes sometimes even if they know something is broken.

Lots of people wont understand this, but some "fixes" can make the game totally uncontrolled, and disbalanced. This games are much more complex of what people thing.

reeper

They were missing for all classes not just some

lardeson

genadine#7803 said:

kiraskytower said:

Perhaps they decided there was just too much similarity between these, the Protege ones and the prized cult ones? It would be nice to see perhaps another set with a different bonuses. Right now there really is no reason to get these when the protege ones have the same bonus with better stats.

Not everyone is running or even capable of running LoMM so these should be available for the masses.

Actually those dropped frequently enough from MEs, atleast for me, im aware if the awesomeness of their RNG system and wouldn't be surprised if you've never seen one, but those are more likely to drop with 2 or 3 empowered runes. They prolly forgot to change the description in collection or forgot to add them to the vendor, wouldn't be surpised with either.

artifleur

lardeson said:

Actually those dropped frequently enough from MEs, atleast for me, im aware if the awesomeness of their RNG system and wouldn't be surprised if you've never seen one, but those are more likely to drop with 2 or 3 empowered runes. They prolly forgot to change the description in collection or forgot to add them to the vendor, wouldn't be surpised with either.

The ones you get from master expeditions are prized shirt/pants of the cult, not spy's guild
.... and these are IL 909, not 940
.... and these have very low drop-rate
.... and you get a random one instead of picking the one you want from the seal shop

But they needed a reason for us to run LoMM, so they purposely left the spy guild shirt/pants out.

adinosii

artifleur said:

But they needed a reason for us to run LoMM, so they purposely left the spy guild shirt/pants out.

Ah....I really think this is just an honest screw-up. The IL 909 pants/shirts are really "good enough" anyhow - the Spy guild ones are not a "must-have".

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