Feedback: Companions

jonkoca

For CA then you want a companion which teleports behind the enemy like a shadow demon perhaps.

eregerog

My companion pulls enemies when he tries to catch up with me: When I mount an run past (not aggroing) enemies and then wait some distance away, my companion will often run through the enemies and pull them. This never happened to me on live and is annoying.

blannde

My question is why change something that worked, and I think worked quite well... none of the changes are what I would call improvements - except perhaps the one set of gear for all but I personally preferred being able to customise all of mine. Not to mention like many others spent a small fortune on each of mine upgrading them etc. And as I run almost 30 characters (and each have their own personlised groups of companions)and I also have a store of un-allocated companions, the binding to character automatically with the new mod, is as someone else put it A BIG ISSUE. As already mentioned the gear and rune stones etc being dumped in the inventory is also going to be a huge problem.
Possible solution give a area to store companion gear etc like for the keys and it needs to be big enough to take all of the un-allocated gear. Personally don't mind it being locked into the account but definitely not to the character. Last comment, why make so many big changes in the one mod? Sure fire way for things to start going south. Like any project, the more complicated it is, the more goes wrong. Can we get our lot of zen refunded?

theothergaliusz

Item level on companion power which is upgraded together with companion stay at 100 Item level when companion power is upgraded.
I have upgraded green blind dog to legendary. The companion power have two stats Deflect and Critic resist

• Green 1000 and 500
• Blue 2000 and 1000
• Epic 3000 and 1500
• Legendary 4000 and 2000

Enchantment power does not change which is normal i think.
Note: legendary mount give less stats than companion, but is more rare and more expensive.

vendood

I'm not on Preview currently, may have to delete a couple other games to free up space so undecided yet.

Currently my Active companion gear gives me around 1,800 IL. Nothing fancy, just a couple seal rings, some rank 8 enchants, some 9 bondings. My 5 companion slots give me 325 IL, so just over 2,000 total IL from my companions. No legendaries or anything, so I would consider this to be around where a moderately active, hit-level-70 a couple months ago type player would be.

This extra companion IL is what allows me to run RIQ for some daily AD. I'd like to ask how the current Companion system compares to the Mod 16 one for IL levels, given the substantial changes in gearing, enchants and slots for adding up IL points, particularly for people in this not-much-past-70 range who aren't bursting with IL.

brewald

theothergaliusz#7671 said:

Item level on companion power which is upgraded together with companion stay at 100 Item level when companion power is upgraded.
I have upgraded green blind dog to legendary. The companion power have two stats Deflect and Critic resist

• Green 1000 and 500
• Blue 2000 and 1000
• Epic 3000 and 1500
• Legendary 4000 and 2000

Enchantment power does not change which is normal i think.
Note: legendary mount give less stats than companion, but is more rare and more expensive.

You can add:

• White 400 and 200

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c1k4ml3kc3

tousseau said:

Perhaps, I'm blind... But is there a benefit to using an Augment?

Augmented pets shouldn't die, which is a major benefit whenever you transport from instance to instance and figure out midfight that your comp is missing. Happened to me a lot of times.

So, augment pets are not marked as targets by any enemy, which means that all powers are constantly applied to you at all times.

theycallmetomu

c1k4ml3kc3 said:

tousseau said:

Perhaps, I'm blind... But is there a benefit to using an Augment?

Augmented pets shouldn't die, which is a major benefit whenever you transport from instance to instance and figure out midfight that your comp is missing. Happened to me a lot of times.

So, augment pets are not marked as targets by any enemy, which means that all powers are constantly applied to you at all times.

I'm not sure my augment pet is working is all. I unsummon it and my stats aren't that much lower, making me suspect that augments don't do much of anything. Maybe a couple hundred points of stats at most? Probably a bug.

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artifleur

theycallmetomu said:

I'm not sure my augment pet is working is all. I unsummon it and my stats aren't that much lower, making me suspect that augments don't do much of anything. Maybe a couple hundred points of stats at most? Probably a bug.

They give you 100% of their base stats (the stats they have without any equipment) on top of the stats coming from bonding runestones.

That's a rather small amount but what matters is that they can't die and become unsummoned which is awesome.

Debuff companions can give you and your team 10% more damage but I'm not sure it's worth the risk of losing your bonding buff in the middle of a fight.

IMO that's one of the coolest change in mod 16, along with auto-upgrade.

fuzzmeisterj

The companion changes will hurt the most. I usually run with the Harper Bard (no telling if he will be worthwhile yet) but with the new groups, that's the only one I've got to legendary for the bolster bonus. That change is what makes this feel like a money grab more than other changes. I've got 4 companions legendary under magical, but none that I think I would use normally unless augments become useful.

codeteller

having bolster by companion type sucks
I have 5 legendary companions on live but only 2 are from the same type, so that hurts
why not just have the bolster be your 5 best quality companions?
(other than for the money grab of course)

theycallmetomu

codeteller said:

having bolster by companion type sucks
I have 5 legendary companions on live but only 2 are from the same type, so that hurts
why not just have the bolster be your 5 best quality companions?
(other than for the money grab of course)

I get that established players are hurt by this particular change, but the new model makes more sense; it makes collecting companions a goal onto itself, whereas before it's "well here are my five and that's all she wrote."

kemnimtarkas

Siegemaster companion has no defined damage value in his active bonus in the tooltip. It just says %, with no number.

theycallmetomu

artifleur said:

theycallmetomu said:

I'm not sure my augment pet is working is all. I unsummon it and my stats aren't that much lower, making me suspect that augments don't do much of anything. Maybe a couple hundred points of stats at most? Probably a bug.

They give you 100% of their base stats (the stats they have without any equipment) on top of the stats coming from bonding runestones.

That's a rather small amount but what matters is that they can't die and become unsummoned which is awesome.

Debuff companions can give you and your team 10% more damage but I'm not sure it's worth the risk of losing your bonding buff in the middle of a fight.

IMO that's one of the coolest change in mod 16, along with auto-upgrade.

Hmm. That's a good point-before, bondings were just flat-out better because even if your companion died, the buff lasted long enough for them to recover. If the bonding stones deactivate when your companion dies, that does shift things back in favor of augments.

fuzzmeisterj

theycallmetomu said:

codeteller said:

having bolster by companion type sucks
I have 5 legendary companions on live but only 2 are from the same type, so that hurts
why not just have the bolster be your 5 best quality companions?
(other than for the money grab of course)

I get that established players are hurt by this particular change, but the new model makes more sense; it makes collecting companions a goal onto itself, whereas before it's "well here are my five and that's all she wrote."

I'd be down with that reason if it wasn't so much to get a companion to legendary. I have more than 5 now, but they are all spread out pretty thin.

theycallmetomu

fuzzmeisterj said:

theycallmetomu said:

codeteller said:

having bolster by companion type sucks
I have 5 legendary companions on live but only 2 are from the same type, so that hurts
why not just have the bolster be your 5 best quality companions?
(other than for the money grab of course)

I get that established players are hurt by this particular change, but the new model makes more sense; it makes collecting companions a goal onto itself, whereas before it's "well here are my five and that's all she wrote."

I'd be down with that reason if it wasn't so much to get a companion to legendary. I have more than 5 now, but they are all spread out pretty thin.

To be frank, the marginal gain in having a legendary for your 2nd active companion was already super low, so I'm not sure why you bothered.

vorphied

theycallmetomu said:

artifleur said:

theycallmetomu said:

I'm not sure my augment pet is working is all. I unsummon it and my stats aren't that much lower, making me suspect that augments don't do much of anything. Maybe a couple hundred points of stats at most? Probably a bug.

They give you 100% of their base stats (the stats they have without any equipment) on top of the stats coming from bonding runestones.

That's a rather small amount but what matters is that they can't die and become unsummoned which is awesome.

Debuff companions can give you and your team 10% more damage but I'm not sure it's worth the risk of losing your bonding buff in the middle of a fight.

IMO that's one of the coolest change in mod 16, along with auto-upgrade.

Hmm. That's a good point-before, bondings were just flat-out better because even if your companion died, the buff lasted long enough for them to recover. If the bonding stones deactivate when your companion dies, that does shift things back in favor of augments.

I can't seem to properly test this on Preview because A) my summoned non-augment companion is scaling incorrectly and has ridiculous HP, B ) said companion takes forever to engage a target, and C) companion one-shots things when it does attack due to aforementioned wonky scaling.

If anyone manages to kill their companion so that we can see if bondings persist through death, would be great to confirm.

fuzzmeisterj

theycallmetomu said:

fuzzmeisterj said:

theycallmetomu said:

codeteller said:

having bolster by companion type sucks
I have 5 legendary companions on live but only 2 are from the same type, so that hurts
why not just have the bolster be your 5 best quality companions?
(other than for the money grab of course)

I get that established players are hurt by this particular change, but the new model makes more sense; it makes collecting companions a goal onto itself, whereas before it's "well here are my five and that's all she wrote."

I'd be down with that reason if it wasn't so much to get a companion to legendary. I have more than 5 now, but they are all spread out pretty thin.

To be frank, the marginal gain in having a legendary for your 2nd active companion was already super low, so I'm not sure why you bothered.

Can you say the same about the new bolstered mechanic?

lordseth1985

lowjohn said:

sgrantdev said:

fuzzmeisterj said:

Is the bolstered stat only for the companion you have equipped or do we need 25 legendary companions?
Also, does that mean that companion stats no longer increase with rarity? Or does that mean we need to rank up even more companions?

Total bolster bonus comes from the 5 highest quality companions of that type. Companions stats increase with rarity and level like normal, bolster enhances that.

But that's not how it works. Right now, it comes from the 5 *FIRST* companions of that type in the list, which is the 5 *LOWEST* quality companions of that type because the list is always sorted by quality, ascending.

It would be nice if we could "equip" companios just like we "equip" mounts. if we had the option to choose the companions, just like we have with mounts...

theycallmetomu

fuzzmeisterj said:

theycallmetomu said:

fuzzmeisterj said:

theycallmetomu said:

codeteller said:

having bolster by companion type sucks
I have 5 legendary companions on live but only 2 are from the same type, so that hurts
why not just have the bolster be your 5 best quality companions?
(other than for the money grab of course)

I get that established players are hurt by this particular change, but the new model makes more sense; it makes collecting companions a goal onto itself, whereas before it's "well here are my five and that's all she wrote."

I'd be down with that reason if it wasn't so much to get a companion to legendary. I have more than 5 now, but they are all spread out pretty thin.

To be frank, the marginal gain in having a legendary for your 2nd active companion was already super low, so I'm not sure why you bothered.

Can you say the same about the new bolstered mechanic?

I'm basically saying that the return is low in both systems.

sormovich

I had an epic Laughing skull, but I was able to bind another one of uncommon quality:

theothergaliusz

Huntin drake's presence - upgrade from blue to legendary does not increase any stats. it alwayes 10% damage base on range.

divectore

Don't know if this has been posted already, but liliend companion is multiprocing if your daily is persistent, heres a video i took https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lIoRv84NHY

artifleur

kemnimtarkas said:

Siegemaster companion has no defined damage value in his active bonus in the tooltip. It just says %, with no number.

It's easy enough to test. It's 3% for purple quality.

krzyzok

An interesting option would be to add a collection of items for a companion. It can be useful for players who are starting to play with their companion's clothes.

checkmatein3

Here are a list of some of the companion's equip tooltip that are messed up:
Portal Hound's Presence...equip +.
Greenscale Hunter's Discipline...10% chance to restore % of max stamina
Cold Iron Warrior's Discipline...+% damage to Fey Creatures
Fire Eye's Intuition...+% dmg to Kabal's Minions
Vicious Direwolf's Presence... weapon damage of % added
Black Ice Stone Insight... -11ItemBattery_Decay_Rate
War Boar's Insight... cause % physical DOT
Twighblight's Insight... +3.1 Null
Tomb Spider's Insight... poison causing 0% weapon DOT
Xuna's Wisdom...poison for 0% weapon dmg
Seige Master's Discipline...Increase power (???) of At will by %
Death Slaad Poisonous Intent... 0% poison damage
Wererat Discipline... + 0% weapon DOT


Also, it could be possible that the Slyblade Kobold's 100% dmg bonus infact reduces dmg by 100%.

xxmantaraxx

codeteller said:

having bolster by companion type sucks
I have 5 legendary companions on live but only 2 are from the same type, so that hurts
why not just have the bolster be your 5 best quality companions?
(other than for the money grab of course)

Absolutely! I havent spent alot of time and money to hand pick and bolster my favorite companions and get all of them to top rank just to end up with not one bolstered companion. It means a huge amount of investment to get near where I am now. Should be top 5 companions.

theycallmetomu

xxmantaraxx said:

codeteller said:

having bolster by companion type sucks
I have 5 legendary companions on live but only 2 are from the same type, so that hurts
why not just have the bolster be your 5 best quality companions?
(other than for the money grab of course)

Absolutely! I havent spent alot of time and money to hand pick and bolster my favorite companions and get all of them to top rank just to end up with not one bolstered companion. It means a huge amount of investment to get near where I am now. Should be top 5 companions.

People need to start assuming that with every 5-10 mods, 100% of their investment goes away.

Investing in an MMO isn't a permanent benefit, it's a limited time return. Once people accept that, other game changes become easier to accept.