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heraldfayez
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i have recently started to pvp and i quickly notice that there is so much imbalance in this game specially with classes like TR even at low gear level without much in them overperform by huge margin compared to others or how paladins are hard to kill and buff themselves like crazy.
the topic here is to remove piercing damage from PVP beacause it is not fair that you have to spend millions of AD to gear up character and invest in a stat to play the game then simply comes a FLUFFY low geared player and ignores all that hardwork because of "piercing damage" i really don't see much point in adding this damage to pvp
if i'm wrong someone please correct me.
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the topic here is to remove piercing damage from PVP beacause it is not fair that you have to spend millions of AD to gear up character and invest in a stat to play the game then simply comes a FLUFFY low geared player and ignores all that hardwork because of "piercing damage" i really don't see much point in adding this damage to pvp
if i'm wrong someone please correct me.
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BTW, the piercing damage calculation base will be changed from purely 100% pre-mitgigated to 75% of mitgigated damage. This is a nerf for PvP but a buff to PvE. The dev's announced that for Mod 14 (it's somewhere in the forums here).
HP >220 with appropriate levels of defensive stats (collectively) remove the ability of a TR to one shot. You will take massive damage with their unmitigated SoD but not one shot.
> Same here, I have Chitters and Manticore. I've changed the usage by que'ing using strategist helmet and check the other team. If somebody on the other team uses it, I equip my ones.
> BTW, the piercing damage calculation base will be changed from purely 100% pre-mitgigated to 75% of mitgigated damage. This is a nerf for PvP but a buff to PvE. The dev's announced that for Mod 14 (it's somewhere in the forums here).
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> You mean only for the TR right? HR combat piercing will remain the same I believe.
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> Why ? to oneshot players in pvp who have worked hard to gear their toons ...? i don't think so..
> I agree...Remove piercing damage plz .
It's not a one shot...
> Same here, I have Chitters and Manticore. I've changed the usage by que'ing using strategist helmet and check the other team. If somebody on the other team uses it, I equip my ones.
> BTW, the piercing damage calculation base will be changed from purely 100% pre-mitgigated to 75% of mitgigated damage. This is a nerf for PvP but a buff to PvE. The dev's announced that for Mod 14 (it's somewhere in the forums here).
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> You mean only for the TR right? HR combat piercing will remain the same I believe.
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> Why ? to oneshot players in pvp who have worked hard to gear their toons ...? i don't think so..
> I agree...Remove piercing damage plz .
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> A HR cannot one shot unless you do not have proper gear/stats. They hit hard but are hardly a threat (they are immensely squishy)
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> HP >220 with appropriate levels of defensive stats (collectively) remove the ability of a TR to one shot. You will take massive damage with their unmitigated SoD but not one shot.
If they use manes they might kill you with a combo plus daily.. I don't see the problem with this bease gf can one rotate kill you without using a daily, so can gwf, and some skilled cw
I see the Cw, Gwf and Gf and i have the option to run dodge/block others can help me by cc then etc NOW the TR will attack from hide with ITC most likely up so I cant kill him others cant help me.
Tr like you seem to think that is the same trust me IT IS NOT.
Getting killed by Gf chain Gwf daily+ibs or CCed and nuked to death by Cw or sniped from above by Hr happens to all but they are dead in the water when faced with 2-1 and killed by same IL players while the Tr just kills both or if he needs trolls away and kill some other at lesure....
I do understand you find it fun to play Tr but at least think before you put up these redicules examples....
> > @slysnow#2290 said:
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> > Same here, I have Chitters and Manticore. I've changed the usage by que'ing using strategist helmet and check the other team. If somebody on the other team uses it, I equip my ones.
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> > BTW, the piercing damage calculation base will be changed from purely 100% pre-mitgigated to 75% of mitgigated damage. This is a nerf for PvP but a buff to PvE. The dev's announced that for Mod 14 (it's somewhere in the forums here).
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> > You mean only for the TR right? HR combat piercing will remain the same I believe.
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> > Why ? to oneshot players in pvp who have worked hard to gear their toons ...? i don't think so..
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> > I agree...Remove piercing damage plz .
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> > A HR cannot one shot unless you do not have proper gear/stats. They hit hard but are hardly a threat (they are immensely squishy)
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> > HP >220 with appropriate levels of defensive stats (collectively) remove the ability of a TR to one shot. You will take massive damage with their unmitigated SoD but not one shot.
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> If they use manes they might kill you with a combo plus daily.. I don't see the problem with this bease gf can one rotate kill you without using a daily, so can gwf, and some skilled cw
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> Ofc you do not see the problem as a Tr but let me enlighten you then.
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> I see the Cw, Gwf and Gf and i have the option to run dodge/block others can help me by cc then etc NOW the TR will attack from hide with ITC most likely up so I cant kill him others cant help me.
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> Tr like you seem to think that is the same trust me IT IS NOT.
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> Getting killed by Gf chain Gwf daily+ibs or CCed and nuked to death by Cw or sniped from above by Hr happens to all but they are dead in the water when faced with 2-1 and killed by same IL players while the Tr just kills both or if he needs trolls away and kill some other at lesure....
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> I do understand you find it fun to play Tr but at least think before you put up these redicules examples....
Let me enlighten you... shadow clad and stealth items make everyone a tr...
I play pvp all the time brother .. I know what's up
And btw, U. shadowclad has 30 sec cooldown on stealth (SoD every 6 sec) and with BB ambush rings are useless
There is no class that comes even NEAR the Tr weather they use shadoclad or rings etc...
Shodowclad. rings etc can not even compare to hide/itc/smoke not even in the same ballpark when it comes to helping with survivability and that even not taking the best looooooongest dodges in the game that also add immunity phrames to them.....
kill death ratio just means that if we need to sometimes... note the word sometimes... we can escape..
So spamming back to back ITC/SMOKE/HIDE 3-4 daily /min 75% deflect severity with loooongest dodge with immunity build in just count for escape SOMETIMES ........
Yea that would explain the kd ratio of 300+/1
All while they stack no armor pen in pvp yet for me to be effective against pallies or high defence GFs I have to stack about 16-18k armor penetration.
This needs addressing
Tanks are broken and if you don't believe me, i can show you videos or screenshots of gf having 25+ kills and almost 0 deaths in every match.
and for pve... their dps is higher than any dps class.
Paingiver board: GF top spot: 1.847.933.909 damage.
Yeh, this needs addressing
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Also looking at a few of the comments it seems that HRs (the class that once had unmitigated piercing damage) and TRs (the class that currently has unmitigated piercing damage) are the classes more in support of not removing piercing damage. It'll kill dps for your class? You do realize most other classes do not have piercing builds yet do fine correct? Its not the end of the world. HRs and TRs have built in stealth. Use it to your advantage and be creative build wise if piercing is ever removed. Try being a CW with no "built in" extras. How about a GWF with no shield/warp etc?
> We vote no to removing piercing... (agree)
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> No.
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> Also looking at a few of the comments it seems that HRs (the class that once had unmitigated piercing damage) and TRs (the class that currently has unmitigated piercing damage) are the classes more in support of not removing piercing damage. It'll kill dps for your class? You do realize most other classes do not have piercing builds yet do fine correct? Its not the end of the world. HRs and TRs have built in stealth. Use it to your advantage and be creative build wise if piercing is ever removed. Try being a CW with no "built in" extras. How about a GWF with no shield/warp etc?
Tr piercing damage is mitigated for saboteurs and scoundrels...
I'm already full stealth and speed.... but it seems the best way to go is full power and shadowclad