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New Mount Bonuses

darthtzarrdarthtzarr Member Posts: 1,003 Arc User
edited February 2016 in General Discussion (PC)
I know that the numbers are still subject to change, but what are people's thoughts on the new mount powers? Which ones are obviously better than others? Which ZEN Market mounts actually fit best with these classes considering their possible insignia bonus + stat bonus?

DPS Devoted Cleric (Oracle)
Healadin Oathbound Paladin (Devotion)
DPS Hunter Ranger (Pathfinder)
Daze Trickster Rogue (Infiltrator)

The Stormraider Clydsdale seems pretty awesome with the Gladiator bonus and +2000 Movement

Set Bonuses: https://two30.github.io/neverwinter-insignia/?0

Mount Stats: https://www.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/450t4x/pc_mount_info_for_those_who_have_yet_to_log_into/

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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited February 2016
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  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    Every DPS needs arpen, so get the white tiger or the worg, unless you already have an axebeak or a guild with a rocking arpen bonus. If you do pvp, you could pretty much always use more arpen, so go for the tiger or, even better, the axebeak, in addition to the guild with a rocking arpen bonus.

    If you're crit DPS (highly likely), then you could weigh the costs between dark enchants versus azures and decide if it'd be more cost efficient to get the crit mount over the arpen mount. I still prefer arpen, but if if you're using crits and have a net crit severity of over 100% then always go for crit over power.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,457 Arc User
    In PVE, you don't need a lot of ArPen like in PVP. If you have over 60% Damage Resistance Ignore, you have too much ArP for PVE.
    I have been spending time to lower my ArPen and it is still too much.
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  • darthtzarrdarthtzarr Member Posts: 1,003 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    The problem is that White Tiger's only set bonus possible gives a small amount of your power given as Defense/Deflect/Movement Speed to all allies when you use a daily. This is competing with:

    +15% movement speed while above 75% stamina. +15% of your power as Stamina Regen while below 25% stamina. (extra movement speed or super fast dodge) [Stormraider Clydesdale]

    +1.5% of your HP healed on crit... yeah that seems fair (seems like a really good thing for GWF) [Dusk Unicorn]

    +3% of your HP healed on deflect... um... (seems really REALLY good for anyone with a high deflection chance) [Heavy Howler and Yeth Hound]

    The set bonuses seem to be far more valuable than the +2000 stat as far as I can tell... which is why I am asking.

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  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    darthtzarr said:

    The problem is that White Tiger's only set bonus possible gives a small amount of your power given as Defense/Deflect/Movement Speed to all allies when you use a daily. This is competing with:

    +15% movement speed while above 75% stamina. +15% of your power as Stamina Regen while below 25% stamina. (extra movement speed or super fast dodge) [Stormraider Clydesdale]

    +1.5% of your HP healed on crit... yeah that seems fair (seems like a really good thing for GWF) [Dusk Unicorn]

    +3% of your HP healed on deflect... um... (seems really REALLY good for anyone with a high deflection chance) [Heavy Howler and Yeth Hound]

    The set bonuses seem to be far more valuable than the +2000 stat as far as I can tell... which is why I am asking.

    Do you get the insignia bonuses from all 5 mounts in the stable, or just the one you're actually using?

    And 2000 of a stat you need a fixed quantity of (arpen in PvE) means 2000 less of that stat you need to bother with on the rest of your gear. That opens up offense slots or other artifact choices to beef up auxiliary slots. The insignia boosts can still be obscene, but the 2k is more than just 2k.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    zibadawa said:

    darthtzarr said:

    The problem is that White Tiger's only set bonus possible gives a small amount of your power given as Defense/Deflect/Movement Speed to all allies when you use a daily. This is competing with:

    +15% movement speed while above 75% stamina. +15% of your power as Stamina Regen while below 25% stamina. (extra movement speed or super fast dodge) [Stormraider Clydesdale]

    +1.5% of your HP healed on crit... yeah that seems fair (seems like a really good thing for GWF) [Dusk Unicorn]

    +3% of your HP healed on deflect... um... (seems really REALLY good for anyone with a high deflection chance) [Heavy Howler and Yeth Hound]

    The set bonuses seem to be far more valuable than the +2000 stat as far as I can tell... which is why I am asking.

    Do you get the insignia bonuses from all 5 mounts in the stable, or just the one you're actually using?

    And 2000 of a stat you need a fixed quantity of (arpen in PvE) means 2000 less of that stat you need to bother with on the rest of your gear. That opens up offense slots or other artifact choices to beef up auxiliary slots. The insignia boosts can still be obscene, but the 2k is more than just 2k.
    As far as I can tell from admittedly very limited testing, you can use effects from as many as eight different mounts at one time (nine if you somehow chose a speed bonus from nothing else you have equipped, but this is improbable). Visible mount and the active and combat bonuses are chosen from menus of everything you've got on that character, not limited to the mounts in the stable granting insignia bonuses.
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  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    beckylunatic said:

    zibadawa said:

    darthtzarr said:

    The problem is that White Tiger's only set bonus possible gives a small amount of your power given as Defense/Deflect/Movement Speed to all allies when you use a daily. This is competing with:

    +15% movement speed while above 75% stamina. +15% of your power as Stamina Regen while below 25% stamina. (extra movement speed or super fast dodge) [Stormraider Clydesdale]

    +1.5% of your HP healed on crit... yeah that seems fair (seems like a really good thing for GWF) [Dusk Unicorn]

    +3% of your HP healed on deflect... um... (seems really REALLY good for anyone with a high deflection chance) [Heavy Howler and Yeth Hound]

    The set bonuses seem to be far more valuable than the +2000 stat as far as I can tell... which is why I am asking.

    Do you get the insignia bonuses from all 5 mounts in the stable, or just the one you're actually using?

    And 2000 of a stat you need a fixed quantity of (arpen in PvE) means 2000 less of that stat you need to bother with on the rest of your gear. That opens up offense slots or other artifact choices to beef up auxiliary slots. The insignia boosts can still be obscene, but the 2k is more than just 2k.
    As far as I can tell from admittedly very limited testing, you can use effects from as many as eight different mounts at one time (nine if you somehow chose a speed bonus from nothing else you have equipped, but this is improbable). Visible mount and the active and combat bonuses are chosen from menus of everything you've got on that character, not limited to the mounts in the stable granting insignia bonuses.
    Possibly there's a bug there, but it suggests that the basic idea is: the correct answer isn't "get this one", it's "get all of these".

    And we thought the original ring of cowardice and ambush rings broke pvp! Wait until this stuff hits! Healing on deflect and crit will be absurd on TRs.

    I hope they thought of this and disabled insignias in PvP.
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    zibadawa said:



    I hope they thought of this and disabled insignias in PvP.

    No way. They like to surprise us with new trinkets in PVP every Mod.

  • scathiasscathias Member Posts: 1,174 Arc User
    Strum posted that you should only be having 5 insignia set bonuses at a time. Also, a dev did state at one point that these would be available in pvp i believe
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  • darthtzarrdarthtzarr Member Posts: 1,003 Arc User
    scathias said:

    Strum posted that you should only be having 5 insignia set bonuses at a time. Also, a dev did state at one point that these would be available in pvp i believe

    Yeah I thought one of the official posts said it worked in PVP

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  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    darthtzarr said:

    scathias said:

    Strum posted that you should only be having 5 insignia set bonuses at a time. Also, a dev did state at one point that these would be available in pvp i believe

    Yeah I thought one of the official posts said it worked in PVP
    It's gonna be pandemonium! Tons of people are going to be healing faster than you can damage them without doing anything.
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  • cloudius1978cloudius1978 Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    darthtzarr said:

    scathias said:

    Strum posted that you should only be having 5 insignia set bonuses at a time. Also, a dev did state at one point that these would be available in pvp i believe

    Yeah I thought one of the official posts said it worked in PVP
    I remember them mentioning in the same post that they're looking at putting in some CD timer for PVP, let's hope they remember what they said...

  • kemi1984kemi1984 Member Posts: 849 Arc User
    cloudius1978 said:

    darthtzarr said:

    scathias said:

    Strum posted that you should only be having 5 insignia set bonuses at a time. Also, a dev did state at one point that these would be available in pvp i believe

    Yeah I thought one of the official posts said it worked in PVP
    I remember them mentioning in the same post that they're looking at putting in some CD timer for PVP, let's hope they remember what they said...

    Yeah...right
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  • darthtzarrdarthtzarr Member Posts: 1,003 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    Actually after re-reading the Deflection one, it gives the 3% of max hp "over 4 seconds", which means that it is likely a non-stacking buff. This would likely mean that it has a 4 second cooldown >_>

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  • kemi1984kemi1984 Member Posts: 849 Arc User
    arcofortep12 said:

    I'm gonna going for Power or Critical Strike, it's should be good for any toon.

    P.S.: Welcome Power Creep.

    Welcome? no it's not welcome it's just an another act of the power creep.

    Next thing we know we will have lollipops with passive buffs + active abilities....and long behold...up to mythic quality flies biting us in the HAMSTER!
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  • aaramis75aaramis75 Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    Didn't realize you could have multiple insignia bonuses. Wow. What a way to force people to spend money on mounts in the Zen shop....
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    And where does one get these Insignias???
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,457 Arc User
    santralafax said:

    And where does one get these Insignias???

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9805983-developer-blog:-a-stable-of-insignias

    Insignias are a new item type that will be dropping soon from a critter near you!
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  • darthtzarrdarthtzarr Member Posts: 1,003 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    theslotharmy#3268 said:

    With Gladiator's Guile, my GWF will have a total movement speed of 35%.

    Nobody will be able to beat me in a foot race unless they start dropping golden apples. Then with 4 stacks of unfettered strikes, I will have a total of 55% move speed, allowing me to move faster than a common mount. That is without sprinting either.

    And to think of how fast stamina might regen after you drop below 25% stamina. Is it possible that it could out-regen GWF sprint if you had the -15% stamina cost feat too? Infinite sprint would be insane.

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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    yeeee BALANCE
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