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What should we do with Cowardice and Ambush rings?
ltgamesttv
Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,438 Arc User
The addition of rings that give stealth and continually push and root your attackers is very controversial. What should be done about them?
On ambush rings: "How would you like PVE if all the mobs were invisible?"
What should we do with Cowardice and Ambush rings? 127 votes
Nothing, they are awesome I always wanted to be a perma stealth, perma root class without playing a TR and/or HR!
15%
20 votes
Burn them with fire! Delete them!
69%
88 votes
Stronghold siege is already buggy with pets, why not leave them useful in that mess and take them out of Domi and GG?
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and burn their users too.
then track their cars, pick a key and write "i forgive you for your sins" on them
Finaly they made some uniq stuff now y complain .
Maybe y need to change your options in your vote .
They need to go from pvp.
Also your vote thread is in wrong section maybe y should ask moderator to place it in PVP sub forum .
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Maybe y should not suggest what my opinion should be and I will do the same for y.
Maybe y should learn how to type you instead of y and make yourself seem, at the least, a bit more able to speak like an adult.
Maybe y should learn that I'm not only talking about PVP.
Maybe y should not suggest what my opinion should be and I will do the same for y.
Maybe y should learn how to type you instead of y and make yourself seem, at the least, a bit more able to speak like an adult.
I am sorry if you feel your self offended this was not my intention.
Btw i wrote it from my mobile .
Also English isnt even my second language. So sorry if y misunderstood me , but i am almost in the 40th age so learning english is hard for me with a child i dont have so much time .
But anyway i dont see what is your problem with the ambush ring?
What is your true option about this " Broken ring"?
Hou can somone abuse it ? I dont see it.
Also about the cowardice how will make this somone perma controller ? It dosnt make someone immortal, i dont think this ring is even helpful to any pve player in any way.
What is your true option about this " Broken ring"?
So those rings dosnt make anyone perma root class and perma stealth class at least not in pve.
Mobs will kill any cowardice ring user they have at least 20-90% cc resist also mobs have huge CD on they at-wills& encounters so it wont help any one to survive (lets say solo) the only thing i see is the user anoy his/her Ptm.
The only thing i find useful about the ambush ring was the mobs dont hit me down from my mount.
In dungeons we cant escape the horde cuz , they follow from door to door and no matter what we need to kill them.
Might give low gear toons an option to survive the very bad matchmaking.
Or:
fix PvP matchmaking so we don't get 2k teams vs 3-4k teams 9 times out of 10, and burn the rings or rework them.
I am fine with the ring of Ambush. I like it in both PVE and PvP.
DENIAL
Until GF can 2 shot me
Until GWF is just immortal (vs CW)
Until OP has perma buble
Until HR can perma root people
Until DC can tank 4 people
Until TR can spam undodgeable Courage Breaker every 15 seconds and press 1button easy win 150k SE
Until we have lags, sick matchmakin and ranking system, bugs etc. etc...
As long as Devs do not fix this game and PvP...
In this ocean of madness i voted yes- rings are fine because they are on this same game breaking lvl like others things which i wrote.
Thanks for your concerned and genuine reply.
The cowardice ring has no internal cooldown right now, thus any time you are struck from behind you are pushing the attacker away and rooting them for the full duration as it also ignores CC resist. This will get fixed but it's still a silly mechanic. On classes that are tanky it gives them the ability to push attackers away who already have a hard enough time killing the wearer without this effect. On classes that have ranged abilities it gives them an unfair advantage against melee classes as the melee classes must be close to deal damage, thus every time they attack and are pushed the fight is unbalanced.
These are the reason I don't care for these rings, the mechanics of them are not beneficial and unbalancing. In PVE they are bad, in PVP they are terrible. Consideration should be taken to what these rings are doing in both instances to all classes and most of the long time players I've talked to hate these rings for mainly the reasons I just mentioned.
Thanks for your reply.
Thanks for your reply.
Thanks for your reply.
At the current rate Ring of Ambush stealth it is stronger than a TRs tab ability (stealth). I do agree that unless they are going to give us rings that mimic everyone's tab ability (how about a ring of fourth CW power or ring of GF block). Then it needs to be way weaker than a TRs tab ability.
I as a Warlock /PvP player have become helpless against a lot of people that I usually out skill and kill in PvP, due to these terrible rings.
I say if they cannot balance or fix them, they need to disable them in PvP dom and GG altogether.
-Kymos
I was on a pvp with my CW, then I fight on a 1vs1 against a SW, he was wearing ambush ring, so you can understand the 1vs1 could not be possible, because was totally imposible fight against what you can't see. But there is the example, i had ambush ring on my inventory, so what if i equip my ambush ring on that fight? if that happen, no one could have seen each other, so no one of us could have kill or fight on that 1vs1, so is that logic?, the answer is not.
Second, I don't see anyone here (apologies if it's here and I just missed it) complaining about one of the things that really bothers me about these rings; even more than what they actually do, the way they're triggered is severely broken. If they did less of what they did, and had a smaller chance to do it, I might be able to shrug them off, but the ones that are triggered by movement... all that's done is create a new social club of imbeciles jumping in circles at the base, refusing to leave the safety of the campfire until they're invisible.
Because it's fun. Because I can.
However
I strongly opt for removing them, BUT ALSO removing all other non–ratings ones (like perma +30% DR, anti–TR ones etc).
Warning
Removing just those 2 rings will bring Sieging/anti–invisible rings onboard; thus never ending story. Remove ALL of them or NO ONE. Well, you remember cry about buff removing rings? Almost nobody mentioned other rings. Now, we have same situation. You'll get root/invi rings removed, but after a month you will make another topic to burn anti–invi/sieging etc. rings.
TL;DR
If you want to remove rings, remove all of them.
Then PvE pugs can run around their little dungeons, with GF's popping in and out of invisibility just like the TRs, and CW's sending mobs flying all over the place with the repel rings, because of course, control wizards don't seem to control much these days anyway.
And the PvP people, who want to play with skill and some finesse can carry on with what we have always done.
And the PvP scrubs, who have been using the rings, can qq some more, because let's face it, most people playing with the rings need every ounce of 'help' they can get.
This game.