In general, I would say No, unless you have a good guild or friends list willing to be respectful of her age and you turn profanity filters on and zone chat off. Some of the parents in my guild do allow their children to play under supervision
Yesterday I asked in zone chat in Icewind Pass if anyone wanted to run Biggrin's Tomb, the response I got from one person was "shut up, ****" completely unprovoked. Also, zone chat in Protector's Enclave (the main hub of the game) is often filled with bile and swearing. PvP? Forget it, you've never seen so much adolescent aggression. There is a profanity filter in the options though, so make sure it is turned on.
Lastly, you must ask yourself if your child is mature enough to deal with things like zombies, ghosts, demons and the like.
Honestly, for an 8 year old, I would rather have them play a single player game that is not connected to the internet or involves other people. The Neverwinter population, sadly, can be very toxic and to bluntly say it, mean. Especially if they are in a random group dungeon and the group fails miserably, some of the things you read can be hurtful or even getting kicked, is like rejection. You just never know who you would run into in a MMO.
I believe 8 it is a bit young. Also mentioned, this game involves perhaps some scarier things such as zombies and demons. I would say this is at least a teen+ game.
bioshrikeMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,729Arc User
edited August 2015
Here's my suggestion:
1. Turn off zone chat, (even with the profanity filter on, enough people misspell or use other characters/symbols to get around the chat filter).
2. Stick to the single player storyline from 1-70, then focus on the campaigns after that.
3. If you want to do dungeons later on, and you are going to supervise your child, then be up front with the fact that this is a young child, and leave the group the moment anyone behaves inappropriately. If the team is accepting of the younger player, and your child has learned enough by that time to understand the core game concepts, then there should be no problem with running said team content.
I don't mean to brag, but consider the legit channel in my signature - we tend to be very forgiving of new players, and I'm sure a productive, understanding team can be found from among its members.
Best of luck to you and your kid!
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I agree. It would only be a matter of time (weeks at most) before your daughter ran afoul of some immature maladjusted person. There are people in this game who truly delight in being mean. I would also recommend either a single-player game, or *only* allow her to play with parents or kids you know -- and supervise at all times.
As for zone/lfg/other chat? It gets beyond toxic. That's a major reason to keep her away from this game. Even at 45 I dread reading zone chat, and often feel like I need a shower afterward.
Have you considered games like Baldur's Gate, Eye of the Beholder, or Legend of Grimrock?
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zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
edited August 2015
Per the EULA and ESRB, the game's minimum age is 13 with parental consent. Some NPCs do use voice-over language that is strong or suggestive (worst that I can recall is Hell, Damnation, and Damnable and there are "courtesans" and sensual NPCs/antagonists), as well there are comments to smoking and drinking. Then add in the random factor of an MMO world, a child may encounter more than a parent wishes.
As I always suggest to parents, if you're going to let your child play any game, you should probably play it first and then supervise them if you then feel it will be okay, for they may come across things you haven't. MMOs and Online games will always run the gambit of subjecting a viewer to more than a parent may wish, similar to Television and the Internet.
My 6 year old son can do the sleeping dragon bridge quest no problem. Back when I was creating my alt leadership army, I would have him do the first 4 levels for me. He really enjoyed it. Another time he was doing a call to arms and I think he was the 2nd highest Damage dealer. He likes playing a GWF, run up and attack.
My son couldn't read, so I wasn't really worried about chat or anything. I'd just turn that off if I were you.
A good guild with respectful members and a harmonious and helpful culture would be conducive for the younger players.
That said, as with all MMOs, the player does come in contact with many strangers outside the guild while leveling, questing, etc.
Encourage your daughter to run with guildies as much as she can. Good if you're in the guild too so you get to know the folks she mingles with daily.
My guild has members across a wide age range, with the youngest being a 9 year old, and mature players over 60 years old. We do advocate a profanity-less guild chat and ask members to be respectful at all times. We are happy to bring your daughter in should you allow her to play. Look me up in game at @cloudius1978.
My son started at 8 years old nad been playing MMORPGs with me since. I agree with most of the the comments here, there were several times over the years I had to jump into chat to talk with someone on the other end of the computer in DDo, but overall, he has not had any issues.
Be aware, there are predators that lurk in these games just like in the parking lot of a school, so supervise and watch everything your child interacts with in any MMORPG.
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You do not mention what your(and your childs) primary language is.
If you disregard the input from chat and voice, I see very little in the game that would be really scary to an 8 year old child. Just look at all the super-violent cartoons that child TV is sending, this should be no worse.
If your child has english as her 2nd language, she probably will not catch much until 10-12 at least.
My suggestion is to join guild Medievel. When they say they are family friendly , they mean it, enforce it, and live it. They are a fine group of people.
You can completely hide your chat window by doing the following;
1. Save your current UI under options.
2. Edit the UI text file in Cryptic Studios --> Neverwinter --> Live
3. Change the section on chat to read;
eaStoredPositions
{
pchName Chatwindow_Root
eOffsetFrom 3
fPercentY 0.0286458
fWidth 0.297059
fHeight 0.195313
iVersion 3
uiTime 488525932
}
also add or change these lines to match this;
pchStatusMessage "Do Not Disturb"
fFontScale 0.1
bProfanityFilter 1
4. Save and reload the UI
Doing this will reduce the chat window size and font will be unreadable down in the lower left corner. This means you have to also trust the child not to resize it or reset it to default. Also to keep bots from annoying you set your preferences in the social settings to Visible to Friends Only. The bots cannot PM and mail what they cannot see.
My daughter wants to play the game, and I'd like some parent feedback. What do you all think?
If you want to try it out, i run "Red Lantern Corp". We're a small guild. started off as a storage guild for me and my wife. Despite the name we recruit people with the message of being considerate and respectful of each other and to try to help each other out with quests. I'm on in the later evenings/weekends and usually my wife is on during the daytime. msg me in game if you want more info. just fyi we're a casual social guild.
I'd turn all chat channels off and enable profanity filter.
Still, do you think MMOs is going to be her kind of thing? I mean all these dungeons and dailies grind She would probably not play for too long or just toy around in areas a lil bit.
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drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
I am in a guild that is VERY family friendly... I do know of one guildie who bought a Unicorn mount that his daughter suggested he buy... so she could watch him play. He ended up letting her play with him on one character.
My kids... were playing MMOs from an early age pre-teen... things like Pop-Tropica, MineCraft and Runescape. By the time they were 8... they had heard every imaginable thing that I hear as their parent. Setting filters does not mean they don't know about it. Trust me... in the internet age... if it exists your kids have seen it or heard it. I think that group play or supervised play is a better choice. Meaning if you have the capability... play the game with them or as many of us were forced to do as children... watch them play. I say that because I think I have logged more hours of watching others play a game than I have played on Skyrim.
However, I would shut off everything but party and guild chats... because there is some serious BS going on in Zone chat, not to mention the 'spammers'.
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I let one play on Champions Online without issues they just preferred super heroes to d&d or I would have let them play Neverwinter supervised.
I have played online games for about 20 years and have had 3 dodgy child related incidents in that time so supervision is a pretty good plan.
My daughter wants to play the game, and I'd like some parent feedback. What do you all think?
Not at all, not even with parent watching over her! Community is toxic many times, chat is many times full of perverted talk about every topic a child should really avoid. Turning everything off in an MMO doesn't work.
There are some nice games, some even DnD type games for her age, i would personally advise to start the journey there.
Sure kids can pick up many bad habits in their early social life (in school for example) and letting them think world is a beautiful place, full of nice people does also harm, but i still think repeating trash talk in a mostly adult game like this, should be avoided on the daily basis.
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Our 7 granddaughter plays and thoroughly enjoys the game.
We made the decision to allow her to play because there is a lot of reading involved, very little gore, and she understands that it is just a video game.
We closely monitor her while she's in game. My guild is full of awesome and understanding people who super and encourage her. The swear filter is on and the only channel displayed is guild chat.
Most of the players I get tells from in PvP sound as if they are 8 years old or less but they are extremely foul in the tells they send full of misspelled profanities.
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silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
Ive let my kids play aspects of the game, but they dont understand group dynamics all that much, the youngest Ive seen good players at most mmos are usually in the high teens. Much younger then that group stuff seems beyond their reach.
My kids will do the easy stuff from time to time for me (ie ToD campaign quests or the such) with easier classes to play that (ie gwf , pally, hr) who only needs to press 3-4 buttons at most do do regular pve landscape stuff (not the group stuff.. they would die in 3 seconds )
My concern is the terrible, awful , horrible people who show up in MMOs, I mean really bad people, people who probably should be banned for life .
Ive seen them for along time (mostly after eq1.. so like eq2 I started seeing them and they just move from game to game apparently)
The only time I felt I wouldve let my kids join was in lotro on the riddermark server, there were bad poeple there as well, but I just was on the global channel or in house with small guild, with families. Any HAMSTER posted to global channel wouldve seen you both ignored and banned by most of the users in the end game, effectively making you almost not being able to play the game at that level.
That was the best community of any mmo I saw ever.. but sadly, things move along and time advances and eventually you have to as well. Riddermark is even being closed soon!
My 5 and 9 year old play the web game mostly. I let the 9 year old do my daily skirmishes also on alts.
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theycallmetomuMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,861Arc User
I wouldn't admit that in the same thread that a community moderator pointed out that per the EULA, the minimum age with parental consent is 13.
You could see your account being banned or something. After all, everyone remembers that story of the guy who was banned from World of Warcraft for using the "I'm twelve and what is this?" meme, because of their EULA.
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Yesterday I asked in zone chat in Icewind Pass if anyone wanted to run Biggrin's Tomb, the response I got from one person was "shut up, ****" completely unprovoked. Also, zone chat in Protector's Enclave (the main hub of the game) is often filled with bile and swearing. PvP? Forget it, you've never seen so much adolescent aggression. There is a profanity filter in the options though, so make sure it is turned on.
Lastly, you must ask yourself if your child is mature enough to deal with things like zombies, ghosts, demons and the like.
I believe 8 it is a bit young. Also mentioned, this game involves perhaps some scarier things such as zombies and demons. I would say this is at least a teen+ game.
1. Turn off zone chat, (even with the profanity filter on, enough people misspell or use other characters/symbols to get around the chat filter).
2. Stick to the single player storyline from 1-70, then focus on the campaigns after that.
3. If you want to do dungeons later on, and you are going to supervise your child, then be up front with the fact that this is a young child, and leave the group the moment anyone behaves inappropriately. If the team is accepting of the younger player, and your child has learned enough by that time to understand the core game concepts, then there should be no problem with running said team content.
I don't mean to brag, but consider the legit channel in my signature - we tend to be very forgiving of new players, and I'm sure a productive, understanding team can be found from among its members.
Best of luck to you and your kid!
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As for zone/lfg/other chat? It gets beyond toxic. That's a major reason to keep her away from this game. Even at 45 I dread reading zone chat, and often feel like I need a shower afterward.
Have you considered games like Baldur's Gate, Eye of the Beholder, or Legend of Grimrock?
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As I always suggest to parents, if you're going to let your child play any game, you should probably play it first and then supervise them if you then feel it will be okay, for they may come across things you haven't. MMOs and Online games will always run the gambit of subjecting a viewer to more than a parent may wish, similar to Television and the Internet.
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My son couldn't read, so I wasn't really worried about chat or anything. I'd just turn that off if I were you.
That said, as with all MMOs, the player does come in contact with many strangers outside the guild while leveling, questing, etc.
Encourage your daughter to run with guildies as much as she can. Good if you're in the guild too so you get to know the folks she mingles with daily.
My guild has members across a wide age range, with the youngest being a 9 year old, and mature players over 60 years old. We do advocate a profanity-less guild chat and ask members to be respectful at all times. We are happy to bring your daughter in should you allow her to play. Look me up in game at @cloudius1978.
Be aware, there are predators that lurk in these games just like in the parking lot of a school, so supervise and watch everything your child interacts with in any MMORPG.
-Kymos
If you disregard the input from chat and voice, I see very little in the game that would be really scary to an 8 year old child. Just look at all the super-violent cartoons that child TV is sending, this should be no worse.
If your child has english as her 2nd language, she probably will not catch much until 10-12 at least.
1. Save your current UI under options.
2. Edit the UI text file in Cryptic Studios --> Neverwinter --> Live
3. Change the section on chat to read;
eaStoredPositions
{
pchName Chatwindow_Root
eOffsetFrom 3
fPercentY 0.0286458
fWidth 0.297059
fHeight 0.195313
iVersion 3
uiTime 488525932
}
also add or change these lines to match this;
pchStatusMessage "Do Not Disturb"
fFontScale 0.1
bProfanityFilter 1
4. Save and reload the UI
Doing this will reduce the chat window size and font will be unreadable down in the lower left corner. This means you have to also trust the child not to resize it or reset it to default. Also to keep bots from annoying you set your preferences in the social settings to Visible to Friends Only. The bots cannot PM and mail what they cannot see.
If you want to try it out, i run "Red Lantern Corp". We're a small guild. started off as a storage guild for me and my wife. Despite the name we recruit people with the message of being considerate and respectful of each other and to try to help each other out with quests. I'm on in the later evenings/weekends and usually my wife is on during the daytime. msg me in game if you want more info. just fyi we're a casual social guild.
Still, do you think MMOs is going to be her kind of thing? I mean all these dungeons and dailies grind She would probably not play for too long or just toy around in areas a lil bit.
My kids... were playing MMOs from an early age pre-teen... things like Pop-Tropica, MineCraft and Runescape. By the time they were 8... they had heard every imaginable thing that I hear as their parent. Setting filters does not mean they don't know about it. Trust me... in the internet age... if it exists your kids have seen it or heard it. I think that group play or supervised play is a better choice. Meaning if you have the capability... play the game with them or as many of us were forced to do as children... watch them play. I say that because I think I have logged more hours of watching others play a game than I have played on Skyrim.
However, I would shut off everything but party and guild chats... because there is some serious BS going on in Zone chat, not to mention the 'spammers'.
yes my nephew is 8 and he plays with me on my laptop.
turn the bad words off. and if u r still skeptical make the chat window as small as possible.
I have played online games for about 20 years and have had 3 dodgy child related incidents in that time so supervision is a pretty good plan.
There are some nice games, some even DnD type games for her age, i would personally advise to start the journey there.
Sure kids can pick up many bad habits in their early social life (in school for example) and letting them think world is a beautiful place, full of nice people does also harm, but i still think repeating trash talk in a mostly adult game like this, should be avoided on the daily basis.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
We made the decision to allow her to play because there is a lot of reading involved, very little gore, and she understands that it is just a video game.
We closely monitor her while she's in game. My guild is full of awesome and understanding people who super and encourage her. The swear filter is on and the only channel displayed is guild chat.
I would say that it would be child-dependent.
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My kids will do the easy stuff from time to time for me (ie ToD campaign quests or the such) with easier classes to play that (ie gwf , pally, hr) who only needs to press 3-4 buttons at most do do regular pve landscape stuff (not the group stuff.. they would die in 3 seconds )
My concern is the terrible, awful , horrible people who show up in MMOs, I mean really bad people, people who probably should be banned for life .
Ive seen them for along time (mostly after eq1.. so like eq2 I started seeing them and they just move from game to game apparently)
The only time I felt I wouldve let my kids join was in lotro on the riddermark server, there were bad poeple there as well, but I just was on the global channel or in house with small guild, with families. Any HAMSTER posted to global channel wouldve seen you both ignored and banned by most of the users in the end game, effectively making you almost not being able to play the game at that level.
That was the best community of any mmo I saw ever.. but sadly, things move along and time advances and eventually you have to as well. Riddermark is even being closed soon!
You could see your account being banned or something. After all, everyone remembers that story of the guy who was banned from World of Warcraft for using the "I'm twelve and what is this?" meme, because of their EULA.