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Do you think the difficulty of epic dungeons is too hard?
jaydenomega812
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Do you think the difficulty of epic dungeons is too hard? 147 votes
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I would then increase the i level needed, as they are not correct for the most part.
THEN to fix progression, t1s should drop RP as should t2s, so people could RUN DDS and gear up.
Etos is doable legit wise, the rest are much more difficult. IT usually takes a specific combination to do them legit.
Its not that they are hard, its the game is so effing boring to progress in now.. where playing the game barely makes a difference..
Do you get that part? playing the game barely makes a difference in progression.
I have been playing NWO since Mod 3 and not ONCE was any Dungeon a "CAKE WALK". Just because you CC warriors have an easy time in dungeons with your T1 and T2 gear with rank 10's does not mean that players with lower lvl gear and rank 6's and 7's feel the same way. The current state of the Dungeons IS too hard to complete WITHOUT a few "WHALES" who sport a few rank 11's ad 12's. So, I say, create a new toon, get it to lvl 70 with ONLY rare lvl 70 gear and rank 7's, THEN tell me how EASY it is to do!!!
T1 is fine because you can do them with 3-4 people for the most part so taking 1-2 sub 2k poeple isnt a issue at all in those.
Remember everyone is entitled to there own opinion.
This is just a stats diff making things longer but not a real difficulty.
Newsflash, I DO ONLY HAVE RANK 6 AND 7'S (ask any player who I often team with) and I do run dungeons with groups of similarly geared individuals. Guess what, when I reached 70, I did only use rares, for both my CW and my OP. I then ran them both through the t1's and after acquiring the t1 gear I did the t2's.
As for last mod being a cakewalk....well, my sig shows 16k solo CN last mod, bearing in mind that you could achieve well over 24k and on the tr forums I have a guide that I wrote for perma tr which I used for an 11k gs solo CN. This mods epic gear literally adds at most 4% stats over the rare gear, guess what, thats almost no difference. The only difference between me and you is that I play through the content, fail a few times, learn from my mistakes, pick myself up then keep on going. Rather then, like a 3 year old, throwing my toys out the window and saying..."I can't do it so no-one can, you must make it easy to feed my ego and make me think I am good."
Instead of accusing me of being a whale, without knowing anything about me, how about you refer to either one of my guides (pally or tr) and the screenshots in my sig, because guess what, my gear is no better then whatever gear you have.
my answer is yes, it is hard and i dont like getting one-shotted.
Generally the complaint is there just is no time to recoup and heal damage, because all damage is basically insta death damage. You need to use super powerful dailies or passive feats to keep up with most of the damage at this point.
Again.. they can all be done, thats not the point, the question really shouldnt be, are they too hard, but is this more fun then DDs back in mod 1 and 2? I would say no, they are not.
Some of those were really hard at 10-12k , but they were not instant death. OF course back then CWS could maximize control (you actually have less control on control wizards now then you did at the start of the game! and less dps as well..(in context of general damage vs mobs back then).
The game was designed not to need anyone particular class and by forcing this stat curve + hp pool + damage done by mobs was the only way to introduce them as needed back.
I would still like to see the removal of ALL of the Ecc Exploits and change i level up a little more. So many issues in this game could be prevented if they would just be more consistent about whats really needed to do these things. ITs like tiamat again.
I really love legit, but lets face it, sometimes you get a Etos group together, get in there and bam you wipe 4 times at boss, you review your act and you know its not going to be done. I shouldnt have to judge that, just put a real limit into these things 2.3k is probably a better judge of i level limit. Why do they always go so low with their i level limits.
I would totally watch that xD
Yes please!!!
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op protection item level 1755 i can tank tuern lostmauth valindra whatever you want even without divine protector daily.lesser soulforged my armor enchant. two days ago i did with a random pt they was all 1800 an epic tuern without problems.
Other problem is you can only do succesfull runs with a special party composition, which kinda makes most classes usefull and puts extra pressure on them. While a 2K OP OP can do eTos with ease a 2k other class with fail. Party combos are boring, get 1 or 2 Palis a few CWs and the others can go play Tetris.
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I don't see a mention of eToS though. Have you tried that one? Not arguing your point; just curious. I've only tried eToS once on my most highly geared Mod 6 toon (SS Renegade CW, 2.6K iL) and won't enter it again. I ground my way thru NCL to get the gear.
Dungeons should be tough, educational (in terms of teamwork) and completable by at least 50% of the player base. I see lots of people in PE LFG channel looking for VT/eCC/eLoL but rarely do I see eToS (or MC but that's because of the graphics issues I believe).
I remember building up my characters so I could run Castle Never. That dungeon was very tough at first but I never gave up. eToS - pfffft. Not worth the effort . . . or the rage.
Like any other MMO, tanks are always sought after since very people like to play it. You can complete dungeons without tanks, but it will require more skill and better gear to compensate. So find or create a good OP prot. After that, it is the question of WHEN not IF you will finish the dungeon based on your group's dps.
GF SM come into second place as another tank that can make it easier for you, but nothing comes close to how easy an OP prot makes a dungeon. It was reported before m6 launch, and reported months since m6 launched that OP were very powerful tanks that made dungeons way too easy because of its abilities.
They made dungeons harder when you do not have a tank, but when you have a tank, it is easy to "hey, this was an epic dungeon?"
So yes, dungeons are extremely easy if you bring the right composition, better gear just improves completion efficiency.
P.S. IL means nothing. What is important is where those points are placed into. Two characters with the same class, spec, and IL will have different battle strength depending on stats allocation.
You see eCC because people can pull the boss outside of its room and into the trap for a quick kill. You'd think Neverwinter would fix it by now, but it has been months and a new mod has come out. Yet this still exists. Once that is fix, you will see eToS more often as that is the easiest of the three T2s to complete.
The new mod made it so that tanks are useful/needed again for a smooth run which was a big problem in previous mods when any class could tank the entire dungeon making actual tanks obsolete and were forced into a support buff role than tank.
times can a CW teleport. Even with all my Enchants at nine, an
orange blinged out cat and some pretty decent HP adding armor it's
a bit hard not to die/rinse/repeat.
If the Epics are made for the paying-ist customers, I'd at least ask that
they give a more plausible item-level for each dungeon.
1600 il minimum is a cruel joke. it doesn't matter what your il is, you either dodge all incoming attacks or you die.